Poll: Poll: Who produced the stronger descendants?

Who produced the stronger bloodline(s)?

  • Asura

    Votes: 41 40.6%
  • Indra

    Votes: 60 59.4%

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No but it does basically states that they cant achieve said power without resorting to Senju Cell welfare. No one here are saying madara and obito turned into Senju Lol, learn to read.


:lmao: Oh boy the Hyuga clan are not Indra descendants Lol.
The argument was that they were no longer Uchiha if they used Senju cells. I corrected this. You can go ahead and take your own advice, thanks.
 

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Thread is about stronger offsprings, Indra's line used their brain and seeked an additional power source to get even stronger. This doesn't turn them into Senju, but users of the power of Senju.
Again no one here is saying they turned to Senju, we are however saying that they cant match Senju using their own power. The Senju didn't need to steal Uchiha powers to neg them in the war, theres a reason why they all got negged by a 13 year old.
 
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@Bold, thats good.. but what are you on about?

They are all descendents of Rikudou who is Senju + Uchiha.

Madara Uchiha = Ashura + Indra.

Do you want me to provide you manga scans for Madara being Ashura + Indra? All the Chakra comes from the juubi, Juubi's jinchuriki = Ashura + Indra.. do you need scans for that also?


Madara uchiha/Obito Uchiha are Ashura + Indra.. they are above those 2. I thought this is a debate about the power of their lineage and which lineage produced the strongest shinobi. Not which lineage combined the 2 and gained a superior power.

It was the combination of Indra and Ashura's that resulted in shinobi being superior to those who are solely of Ashura's lineage.
Oh lord. Do you not get it yet?

It doesn't matter who Indra and Ashura were descendants of. It matters whom THEIR descendants are, and whose descendants were stronger. This is what the whole thread is about.
 

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On your first point, maybe.
On your second point, it's irrelevant. You'd be restricting Indra's descendants of their greatest powers so they can be under Ashura's descendants.
But its not their powers. Rinnegan is Sages power. All it takes is for Ashura+Indra power to fuse and become Sage power so by your logic, if Naruto took one of Sasuke or Madara Sharingan he'd unlock the Rinnegan too and that would be the height of Ashura power since it works both ways.
 

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@Bold, thats good.. but what are you on about?

They are all descendents of Rikudou who is Senju + Uchiha.

Madara Uchiha = Ashura + Indra.

Do you want me to provide you manga scans for Madara being Ashura + Indra? All the Chakra comes from the juubi, Juubi's jinchuriki = Ashura + Indra.. do you need scans for that also?


Madara uchiha/Obito Uchiha are Ashura + Indra.. they are above those 2. I thought this is a debate about the power of their lineage and which lineage produced the strongest shinobi. Not which lineage combined the 2 and gained a superior power.
Madara, Obito, Sasuke.. All three obtained Hashirama's DNA one way or another which contained Ashura's chakra. But this doesn't make them Ashura's descendant. If I was to need an organ transplant and have one, does that change my ancestry ? Ancestry is about birth, it doesn't change by means like organ transplantation.
 

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That was well before Madara's time mate. Or do you have proof it happened during Madara's time?



No your future lineage will be Senju + Uchiha.

Do you know how to attain a rinnegan? Do you know that Obito changed his entire body make up, when he became a juubi's jinchuriki?

You wanna talk about which lineage produced the strongest shinobi, then talk about those who are in that sole lineage and using the powers of that lineage.
Them uchiha in that flash back was rocking hidden leaf handband!

A lot of shit we don't know about. If Madara and hashirama were truly the strongest, how the other nations gather the balls to wage war against the hidden leaf village.
 

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Oh lord. Do you not get it yet?

It doesn't matter who Indra and Ashura were descendants of. It matters whom THEIR descendants are, and whose descendants were stronger. This is what the whole thread is about.
Descendents of Ashura and Indra.. are also descendents of Kaguya and Rikudou......


Furthermore, let the OP clarify, what hes asking. Is he not asking who has the superior lineage? aka produced the strongest shinobi.... which was Ashura's.

Madara and Obito = Mix of Ashura and Indra.

Madara needed 2 lifes to even attain that power.
 

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Them uchiha in that flash back was rocking hidden leaf handband!

A lot of shit we don't know about. If Madara and hashirama were truly the strongest, how the other nations gather the balls to wage war against the hidden leaf village.
Ahhh you are right, just saw it now. Thought they didn't have headbands on (well atleast some don't). But then now you are talking abotu a time after Madara's... where the Uchiha wasn't fighting other clans.


Because Hashirama wasn't a dictator.....

I need to learn to read? Take a seat.
What i meant was pure uchiha aka simply relying on Indra's lineage..... As you can see being Senju + UCHIHA. Would make him partially uchiha.
 
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But its not their powers. Rinnegan is Sages power. All it takes is for Ashura+Indra power to fuse and become Sage power so by your logic, if Naruto took one of Sasuke or Madara Sharingan he'd unlock the Rinnegan too and that would be the height of Ashura power since it works both ways.
no.. Other wise Nagato would've been able to use the rinnegan like Madara. You can take ashura's power through DNA. which is basically Yang and physical. Uchiha got their special chakra in the brain, you can't transfer that to non uchiha unless you're obitio.

So really, Naruto would not unlock rinnegan if he take Sasuke's eyes because he don't have the Uchiha's yin power, which are the special chakra in the brain.
 

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no.. Other wise Nagato would've been able to use the rinnegan like Madara. You can take ashura's power through DNA. which is basically Yang and physical. Uchiha got their special chakra in the brain, you can't transfer that to non uchiha unless you're obitio.

So really, Naruto would not unlock rinnegan if he take Sasuke's eyes because he don't have the Uchiha's yin power, which are the special chakra in the brain.
You actually can. However, Nagato didn't possess Ashura's chakra. Ashura's chakra could only be obtained from Hashirama or Naruto's dnas.. and Nagato had neither of theirs.
 
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Nowhere its stated that they stopped being Uchiha entirely. Basic comprehension, Learn to read.
Basic comprehension, a field in which you're clearly severely lacking.

After he said that he said this:
How can he be an uchiha, when he is Senju + Uchiha?
Implying his lineage was changed, even partially like you're saying. But it wasn't, not even a little bit. Try again.
 
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