[Discussion] Plotholes surrounding Black Zetsu being Kaguya's Will

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So I was reading some people saying that Black Zetsu being Kaguya's Will and not Madara's has some plot holes surrounding it, which proves that Kishi pulled it out of his ass last minute. They weren't specified though, what plot holes would these be though? I really personally can't think of any, how about you guys?
 

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How was BZ Kaguya's Will when Madara pulled him out of his sleeve like it was his own Will?
If I remember correctly, Black Zetsu can't come out your Arm like that.

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How was BZ Kaguya's Will when Madara pulled him out of his sleeve like it was his own Will?
If I remember correctly, Black Zetsu can't come out your Arm like that.

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This^ And how did Madara not notice when it literally came out of his arm?
 

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Basically one can say BZ made it look like he was being created by Madara. But he would have essentially needed to read his mind in order to know the moment he was planning to do it.
 

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Kishi messed up the Hagoromo (and Hamura) vs Ten Tails fight by changing what Black Zetsu was and the "truth behind what reeally happened".
 

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It just doesn't make sense.
 

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I thought he came from the statue?
 

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I thought he came from the statue?

Nope that was regular zetsu.
Also, I never understood why Madara would think they were Hashirama's clones?
 

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It's not a plot hole...

We saw Madara pull out a rod out of the Hashi clone navel that was attached to Gedo mazou correct?

Then he proceeded to pour his "will," into white zetsu too.

How did Madara gain the ability to use these black rods in the first place?

Answer: immediately when he attached him self to the Gedo mazou statue, the same place the black rods can out.

Gedo is Kaguya/Juubi's shell
 

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It's not a plot hole...

We saw Madara pull out a rod out of the Hashi clone navel that was attached to Gedo mazou correct?

Then he proceeded to pour his "will," into white zetsu too.

How did Madara gain the ability to use these black rods in the first place?

Answer: immediately when he attached him self to the Gedo mazou statue, the same place the black rods can out.

Gedo is Kaguya/Juubi's shell

For once, this idiot is right. Madara's chakra was being directly influenced by the Gedo statue and its chakra, which was Kaguya. Madara thought he was putting his will in, it was actually Kaguya's due to using the statue to do it.
 

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How was BZ Kaguya's Will when Madara pulled him out of his sleeve like it was his own Will?
If I remember correctly, Black Zetsu can't come out your Arm like that.

Kishi definitely made an asspull there.[SUB]
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Black Zetsu watched over the Riencarnations,epecially Indra's.He said he pretended that he was born from Madara.

Madara was still alive only because he was connected to the Gedo Mazo.So BZ was probably watching when Madara was talking to Obito,then he came out when Madara attached him to White Zetsu.
 

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For once, this idiot is right. Madara's chakra was being directly influenced by the Gedo statue and its chakra, which was Kaguya. Madara thought he was putting his will in, it was actually Kaguya's due to using the statue to do it.

Sounded logical at first, but it makes no sense whatsoever. Simply put, Madara didn't create BZ as he was around for millennia before Madara. So Madara might have been influenced by Kaguya's/ the gedo's chakra, but he still didn't create him.
 
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