Plot no jutsu is not a real thing when Naruto vs Pain.

[Simple Math]

Funnu how most of the people saying Naruto uses plot no jutsu are Nagato fans, but they don't even realize that Nagato uses plot no jutsu just as much. His Rinnegan is plot no jutsu cause it was giving to him the fact the Rinnegan had the powers it did was plot no jutsu.

you dont even know what plot no jutsu is

ok if nagato died.. would the story have been ruined? no ... why? because he is not the main character
if naruto died.. would the story have been ruined? yes.. because it doesnt make sense when the main character dies..

in a real fight deva > sm... - but it would've have been too dumb to let naruto get captured..
naruto will beat madara too even though madara is much stronger..

 

[VongolaX]

Tbh, "plot no jutsu" in that fight was the Devas ability returning just before Rasenshuriken hit....

100% correct

 

[VongolaX]

plot no justu helped pain dodge rasenshuriken in a split second is bullshit

 

[Simple Math]

plot no justu helped pain dodge rasenshuriken in a split second is bullshit

show me the manga scan where he dodged rasenshiriken

i wanna see which one you mean..

 

[VongolaX]

show me the manga scan where he dodged rasenshiriken

i wanna see which one you mean..

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even though he use naruto as support the rasenshurikien was literly an inch from deva and for him
to jump over it like that. i dont believe that story

 

[Simple Math]

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even though he use naruto as support the rasenshurikien was literly an inch from deva and for him
to jump over it like that. i dont believe that story

ok let me clear some things up

1) it ain't even hard to dodge rasenshurikin.. u simply just jump from that distance.. just look what minato did below ( yes i know minato is faster)

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2) why would the plot help pain when he was going to die later anyways?

 

[TheHokage]

you dont even know what plot no jutsu is

ok if nagato died.. would the story have been ruined? no ... why? because he is not the main character
if naruto died.. would the story have been ruined? yes.. because it doesnt make sense when the main character dies..

in a real fight deva > sm... - but it would've have been too dumb to let naruto get captured..
naruto will beat madara too even though madara is much stronger..

Lol you say I don't know what plot is I think you don't know what plot is the whole Manga is following a plot not just Naruto...Madara giving Nagato his eyes was plot tell me without the Rinnegan would Jiraiya teach the 3 ame orphans no...he only started to train them properly after he saw the Rinnegan Nagato had, it was plot that Akatsuki went after the Bijuu in the first place.

And no SM Naruto>>>Deva path...in the end you can say what you want but at the end of the day even when Deva had it's power Naruto beat him fair and square with a rasengan in the gut.

Of course it doesn't make sense if the main character dies it's like that for everything both characters had plot in the battle the only thing I won't argue with is talk no jutsu but plot no jutsu give it a rest will you there's no such thing as all characters are following the same plot, the plot Kishi put them on.

 

[VongolaX]

ok let me clear some things up

1) it ain't even hard to dodge rasenshurikin.. u simply just jump from that distance.. just look what minato did below ( yes i know minato is faster)

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2) why would the plot help pain when he was going to die later anyways?

using minato as an example was fail on your part becuz there is not one move that we know so far that show minato getting hit by(assuming) second pein was stalling naruto to give him an answer. If naruto killed him before chibuku tensei. well naruto would smear nagato's blood all over Konan.....Revenge Kill....kishi doesnt want to upset his nagato fanboys

 

[Chaoz]

wait, to the OP i just mentioned and alluded on this on a thread a couple days ago. where you reading?!!?!?o.o
anyways..to reiterate myself; THERE IS NO PLOT NO JUTSU!!
why? because the entire story and everything we have ever seen is "plot"!! you can't say pnj this but not that when they are appart of the same story undergoing to the same as everything else.
the only things that changed was logic was intact in the beginning and that seems to of been thrown out the window(sasuke vs naruto, when naruto punched him so hard in the face, his teeth should of been broken, necks should of been broken, the whole fight they didnt sustain all that much damage)
i mean...really? yeah that doesnt make sense, logically, BUT that has nothing to do with plot. for those who use "PNJ" are just using excuses to fit whatever point they need to make without sounding dumb.

 

[X Spike X]

without a plot there is no story so shut uuuupp

 

[Direcorpse]

I could imagine them together without plot no jutsu...



Naruto would be asking Nagato if he tapped Konan yet. b:
That's the real ending to that fight guys, relax!

 

[forgetthename16]

deva > sm naruto without plot or help

if you explain how naruto would've have broke out of this himself.. then i agree with you

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UMMM..... its called nine tails chakra... very very mass amount of chakra...

 

[~Sovereign~]

That makes no sense. If Sasuke had no chakra then Oro would've come out during the fight with Deidara. Oro came out when Sasuke was fighting Itachi but that was when Sasuke himself said that he had no more chakra left. And contrary to popular belief Sasuke did solo Danzo. Whenever Karin said something about Danzo, Sasuke already knew all that information. And just because Tobi told Sasuke to move doesn't mean he helped him in any other way. My point is that there is no such thing as PnJ. The whole manga has a plot so how can the plot affect a character when that's how the plot is meant to be.

why would oro return then?????? oro didnt return then because of PLOT NO JUTSU

sasuke used the rest of his chakra on the lightning attack then he fell to his knees, sasuke and deidara was a dead even tie, and plot no jutsu had sasuke's back COMPLETELY when deidara did suicide to take sasuke with him

KARIN HEALED SASUKE (which gave sasuke enough chakra to do that last chidori and kill danzo)....NUFF SAID

if you have someone telling you stuff/something on the sidelines...HOW CAN DANZO SNEAK ATTACK?????????????????

danzo didnt have shisui's eye

danzo was trying to SAVE chakra to escape tobi, after sasuke

this fight was 3 vs 1, sasuke DID win BUT it was NOT a SOLO

 

[darthvader5666]

Pain only lost because he had so many disadvantages (lack of killing intent, having fought Konoha beforehand, etc). I think we can all agree that Pain would have destroyed SM Naruto without those disadvantages.

 

[thesageofallages2]

Of course the kyuubi save'd him he is it's keeper.