Plot Hole - Nagato reviving Madara

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Alright this isn't the normal plot hole discovering stating that Nagato cannot revive Madara or whatnot but this is the real problem. Tobi = Madara in Konan and Nagato's eyes. Knowing this, if Tobi asked Nagato to revive Madara, Nagato would be like, how would I revive someone already dead? It wouldn't make sense. Nagato might get enraged knowing that Tobi isn't Madara... Possibly kill him with Konan's help :p Or maybe Nagato was meaning to betray 'Madara' all along.

Anyways; Plot Hole is Nagato thought that Tobi is Madara so why would he revive someone he thinks is alive...?
 

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Plot Hole is Kishi's second name.
 

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Obito would probably just use Genjutsu or some really good lie.
 

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Not to to mention that matter of Rinne Tensei and the fact that he couldn't revive Jiraiya and Yahiko since they had been deceased for too long.

How in the ballz would he have been able to revive Madara who had been dead for at least a decade and a half?

PNJ TO DA MAX!!!

Unless it was a matter of not having enough chakra. Too lazy to reference back. Anyone feel free to correct me if ya know for sure.
 

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Well, while Obito was pretending to be Madara he referred to how he was a "shell of his former self," so perhaps Nagato believed it wasn't a full revival? To be honest, I have no clue, I am just throwing out some ideas.
 

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Not to to mention that matter of Rinne Tensei and the fact that he couldn't revive Jiraiya and Yahiko since they had been deceased for too long.

How in the ballz would he have been able to revive Madara who had been dead for at least a decade and a half?

PNJ TO DA MAX!!!

Unless it was a matter of not having enough chakra. Too lazy to reference back. Anyone feel free to correct me if ya know for sure.

He didn't revive Jiraiya because he would just end up dying again at such ocean depth.

He most likely didn't revive Yahiko because he had already turned him into the Deva Path by the time he learned how.

Either that, or Madara and Obito are unaware of any Rinne Tensei time limit.
 

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He told nagato he is a shell of his former shell. You already know he is good at manipulating anyone.
 

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who cares, yall are bickering about something that didnt happen -_-
no one guessed oro would come back, yet kishi made that happen!
no point in complaining, just enjoy the manga. ^_^
 

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Tobi was going to "USE" Nagato to revive Madara. I don't see how thats a plot hole bro. He could've tricked him, or genjutsu.
 

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Tobi was going to "USE" Nagato to revive Madara. I don't see how thats a plot hole bro. He could've tricked him, or genjutsu.

Hit a Rinnegan user with MS Genjutsu? LOL

How will he trick him? "I'm Madara's twin... MADARA, now I need you to revive the OG Madara, Nagato"

People are so gullible.
 

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1. You can't call plot holes until the series is over
2. Madara had the rinnegan for a while, so I'm sure he had a plan for being able to revive him. Either obito took his body, got hair sample or something else he'd be able to pull it off.
 

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Hit a Rinnegan user with MS Genjutsu? LOL

How will he trick him? "I'm Madara's twin... MADARA, now I need you to revive the OG Madara, Nagato"

People are so gullible.

Nagato knows how Madara looks? never knew, thank you for telling us that. ,,,,,, lmao.

MS genjutsu can't work on a Rinnegan user? since when?
 

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1. You can't call plot holes until the series is over
2. Madara had the rinnegan for a while, so I'm sure he had a plan for being able to revive him. Either obito took his body, got hair sample or something else he'd be able to pull it off.

You didn't read the thread did you?
 

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Nagato knows how Madara looks? never knew, thank you for telling us that. ,,,,,, lmao.

MS genjutsu can't work on a Rinnegan user? since when?

Are you being stupid on purpose? Nagato thinks Obito is Madara, if Obito tells him to revive a guy that looks suspiciously like te statue in the VoTE and has a Sharingan, it wouldn't strike him as odd?

And Sharingan Genjutsu can't work on someone who has the superior eye, Itachi's Tsukuyomi won't work on Madara, will it?
 

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People keep thinking that since Nagato is so powerful he has to be in control, too. He isn't. He is some war orphan that Madara implanted his eyes on, knowing that his backgrounds -grewing in a small country devastated by the greatest nations' war- was optimal to manipulate him. He chose Nagato because of his Uzumaki lineage and ease to accept Madara's (later: Obito's) lies. Nagato's destiny was supposed to be since the beginning to die as a sacrifice to revive Madara after fighting to put the tailed beasts together.

Point being, Obito basically made Nagato dance his own tune. In whatever way he wanted to get Nagato to kill himself by reviving Madara, it doesn't matter much since Nagato is basically going down the rails Obito sets for him. It could be some elaborate lie, or some genjutsu, or some complicated agreement between the two, but the way to do it isn't meaning much.
 

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People keep thinking that since Nagato is so powerful he has to be in control, too. He isn't. He is some war orphan that Madara implanted his eyes on, knowing that his backgrounds -grewing in a small country devastated by the greatest nations' war- was optimal to manipulate him. He chose Nagato because of his Uzumaki lineage and ease to accept Madara's (later: Obito's) lies. Nagato's destiny was supposed to be since the beginning to die as a sacrifice to revive Madara after fighting to put the tailed beasts together.
Point being, Obito basically made Nagato dance his own tune. In whatever way he wanted to get Nagato to kill himself by reviving Madara, it doesn't matter much since Nagato is basically going down the rails Obito sets for him. It could be some elaborate lie, or some genjutsu, or some complicated agreement between the two, but the way to do it isn't meaning much.

Nagato w/ Konans help could maybe WOOP Obitos bum.
 

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Nagato used the name Pain... is he really one to get angry at someone else using a fake name?
 
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