Pinnacle of Doujutsu - Superiority and Inferiority

super michael

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Rinne-Sharingan > Tomoe Rinnegan > Rinnegan

The Rinnengan can suck people souls with human path if I am not mistaken, Nagato was doing that to Naruto but Itachi saved him.
There is Preta Path which makes jutsu useless
There is Susano, which the Rinnengan user can use if its their original eye.
There is animal path which can make multiple powerful summons.
The user can fly or levitate

The Rinnengan seems to have access to both Sharingan and Rinnengan jutsu.
 

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To be honest they're the same. Madara ability was exceptional due to age, exp and chakra power.
 

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Only difference is Kaguya's unique ability. Otherwise they're almost the same.

I would argue that Sasuke's has better precognition if combined with EMS.

Kaguya don't have a unique ability.

His fanfic is saying Madara measured their power and confirmed its the same level. He didn't he just saw Sasuke's eye and said he have Rinnegan also same with RSM. Just in 1 body. He didn't say their eye had the same power level.
 

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I do not understand how Madara got 2 rinnegan, because his eye went out after Izanagi

When he unlocked the Rinnegan, it replaced his existing eyes, and the blindness was essentially negated. This is the only known method to get eyesight back after using Izanagi.
 

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The dojutsu is of the same caliber. The only difference between their Rinnegan is the unique ability. So the question is Ameno vs Limbo. They are both amazing abilities, but I think Ameno has the edge in combat. It's a huge gamechanger.
 

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Madara's Rinnegan abilities are stronger, but Sasuke can use his Sharingan powers with his Rinnegan.

Madara has the ability to switch back and forth, he didn't lose his sharingan abilities.

Rinne-Sharingan > Tomoe Rinnegan > Rinnegan

The Rinne-sharingan Kaguya had only has these abilities confirmed:
-Sharingan precog
-Infinite tsukuyomi
-Dimension transportation

It has never been seen to have MS or Rinnegan abilities, but people seem to think it can do virtually anything. Even without those powers, you think Rinne-sharingan is stronger?


Sasuke's Rinnegan has better precognition, hence the tomoe.

Whether or not it has better precognition is pure speculation. The tomoe haven't been proven to relate to the sharingan's powers.
 

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They are different dude.

Sasuke's Rinnegan offers:

- One unique ability (depends on skill)
- All Standard Rinnegan abilities (depends on skill)
- All Sharingan abilities

Madara's offers:

- One unique ability (depends on skill)
- All Rinnegan abilities (depends on skill)

Based on that, Sasuke's should be superior. (The vessels will make them vary in power, but fundamentally, the former is more versatile, thus superior).

Madara still has his sharingan powers, he can switch back and forth at will. By it's very nature, the rinnegan is already a fusion of the rinnegan and sharingan powers, do you mean madara just can't use the two simultaneously? I never saw evidence of that either.
 

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I don't get how people do not realize this, Sasuke has one Rinnegan because it's meant to mirror Kaguya's dojutsu, in other words Sasuke's Rinnegan is superior to Madara's dual wielding Rinnegan.


Sasuke's left eye has the power of dual Rinnegan and is combined with Indra's Sharingan power, both are requirements to unlock Kaguya's power which he has a portion of.

Even if Sasuke's rinnegan is meant to imitate the look of the Rinne-Sharingan, that doesn't automatically make it stronger in combat. The Rinne-sharingan doesn't have access to any Rinnegan or MS sharingan techniques. It only has precog, dimension shifting, and Infinite tsukuyomi. that's it. It's not some eye that can do every sharingan/rinnegan technique.
 

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I think Sasuke's eyes are better but requires more chakra to use
 

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Madara has the ability to switch back and forth, he didn't lose his sharingan abilities.



The Rinne-sharingan Kaguya had only has these abilities confirmed:
-Sharingan precog
-Infinite tsukuyomi
-Dimension transportation

It has never been seen to have MS or Rinnegan abilities, but people seem to think it can do virtually anything. Even without those powers, you think Rinne-sharingan is stronger?




Whether or not it has better precognition is pure speculation. The tomoe haven't been proven to relate to the sharingan's powers.
Based on her power puff, yes. Just look at it from this perspective:

She had the Rinne-Sharingan, despite not showing all of the Rinnegan abilities, and still was #1.

The Rinnengan can suck people souls with human path if I am not mistaken, Nagato was doing that to Naruto but Itachi saved him.
There is Preta Path which makes jutsu useless
There is Susano, which the Rinnengan user can use if its their original eye.
There is animal path which can make multiple powerful summons.
The user can fly or levitate

The Rinnengan seems to have access to both Sharingan and Rinnengan jutsu.
Didn't Kaguya or Zetsu say she had access to both Sharingan and Byakugan abilities?
 

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Kaguya don't have a unique ability.

His fanfic is saying Madara measured their power and confirmed its the same level. He didn't he just saw Sasuke's eye and said he have Rinnegan also same with RSM. Just in 1 body. He didn't say their eye had the same power level.

As always SenseiSama and his overthinking fetish
 

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Sasuke's should be deemed superior.
 

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@lndra I believe it was Hagoromo that mentioned that Kaguya has Byakugan and Sharingan power, but I could be wrong.

The problem with Kaguya is she doesn't have feat, she lacks many feats that the Sharingan, MS and Rinnengan gives. Kaguya hasn't shown to be able to copy jutsu, a trait which the Sharingan has.
 

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Kaguya don't have a unique ability.

His fanfic is saying Madara measured their power and confirmed its the same level. He didn't he just saw Sasuke's eye and said he have Rinnegan also same with RSM. Just in 1 body. He didn't say their eye had the same power level.

Kaguya has 3 unique abilities wtf are you saying
 

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Not really, Madara measured Sasuke's dojutsu and confirmed their Rinnegan share the same level of eye power.

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Kishi purposefully gave Sasuke a similar design as Kaguya's eye in order to emphasize on how powerful his dojutsu is, he has JJ Hagoromo's eye power and potential.

Not interested in your theories. He said Sasuke has the Rinnegan, which he has too. Nothing more, nothing less. Sasuke's Rinnegan is not more powerful than Madara's in any way, shape or form.

They are different dude.

Sasuke's Rinnegan offers:

- One unique ability (depends on skill)
- All Standard Rinnegan abilities (depends on skill)
- All Sharingan abilities

Madara's offers:

- One unique ability (depends on skill)
- All Rinnegan abilities (depends on skill)

Based on that, Sasuke's should be superior. (The vessels will make them vary in power, but fundamentally, the former is more versatile, thus superior).

Thanks for rehashing what I literally just stated.
 
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@lndra I believe it was Hagoromo that mentioned that Kaguya has Byakugan and Sharingan power, but I could be wrong.

The problem with Kaguya is she doesn't have feat, she lacks many feats that the Sharingan, MS and Rinnengan gives. Kaguya hasn't shown to be able to copy jutsu, a trait which the Sharingan has.

Yes! Thank you! She has no feats, and there's no way she would have held back any MS sharingan/Rinnegan abilities in a fight to prevent herself from being sealed for eternity. The stakes could not have been higher.

You were right, Hagoromo is the one who said she had the ocular powers of both byakugan and sharingan.

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You could argue Sasuke's is better because it retains Sharingan abilities, but when just talking about Rinnegan abilities they are no different besides the unique skills. Oh yeah, and Madara's jutsu are on a larger scale as he is stronger with much more chakra.

Madara retained all sharingan abilities like the susanoo even after he achieved the rinnegan as well, so I'm not sure what you mean.
 

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Sasuke's can:

1. Cast powerful Genjutsu that can subjugate 9+ Tailed Beasts at once.
2. Negate I.T effects.
3. Allow him to travel Kaguya's dimensions (accentuates its unparalleled power)
4. Virtually everything Madara's possesses on the basic level but better, and only varies based on the wielder's pool of chakra.

That considered, Sasuke's is thusly and indisputably superior.
 

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Madara retained all sharingan abilities like the susanoo even after he achieved the rinnegan as well, so I'm not sure what you mean.

Not Genjutsu. Meanwhile Sasuke can cast all his MS jutsu with RG active. The techs he retained are almost inconsequential anyway so it doesn't really matter. :lol
 
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