physically the fight was a draw but mentally..Naruto won

[DHOH]

it does if naruto fights w/ killing intent, and it does change the OP's stance since sasuke would have admitted loss not only to ideology, but actually fighting prowess as well.

He didn't so the outcome of the battle is the same..

 

[lanakui8]

He didn't so the outcome of the battle is the same..

why does that matter? Is that what the OP is talking about?

 

[KidGamer65]

You must be registered for see links

Naruto w/ killing intent > Naruto w/o killing intent = Sasuke w/ killing intent > Sasuke w/o killing intent.

Or Naruto could be doing exactly what Suigetsu suggested Taka does. Fight like they are trying to kill him, so they can beat him without actually killing him. Not seeing how Naruto not wanting to kill Sasuke changes the fact that he pretty much used his strongest abilities to the best of his ability.

All killing intent should change is the lethality and strength of the moves used, and Naruto used his best.

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Sasuke didn't use his Rinnegan fully, he didn't use enton to kill Naruto in the beginning, he only used s/t once, etc, there are plenty more excuses, fact is that they were both handicapped because Kishi wanted them to be portrayed as equals with a draw. Naruto put everything he had into his strongest attack, yet he wasn't giving his all, sure.

Handicapped la giving someone nine bijuus? You saw what good enton did in the end? You know he can barely use that tech and it didn't do him any good. Sasuke dismt have the experience to use the rinnegan like that and showed improvement while Naruto showed less use of tsb. Naruto with killing intent murders Sasuke. Naruto can counter everything he has

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Or Naruto could be doing exactly what Suigetsu suggested Taka does. Fight like they are trying to kill him, so they can beat him without actually killing him. Not seeing how Naruto not wanting to kill Sasuke changes the fact that he pretty much used his strongest abilities to the best of his ability.

All killing intent should change is the lethality and strength of the moves used.

Than why did Naruto put his chakra in two rasenshurikens when he could've uses nine bijuudamarasenshurikens. Or not use unrivaled strength, or punch his arm off like Kaguya or go into sage mode after they fell down

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Only a moron would say otherwise.

Or someone with their own mind, not everyone who thinks different is a moron

 

[KidGamer65]

Than why did Naruto put his chakra in two rasenshurikens when he could've uses nine bijuudamarasenshurikens. Or not use unrivaled strength, or punch his arm off like Kaguya or go into sage mode after they fell down

Except Naruto couldn't have used 9 Bijuu Dama Rasen Shuriken. He used the Nature Energy Kurama gathered for him to buff his Avatar and create 1 Giant FRS and 1 Bijuu Dama Rasen Shuriken. 3 Avatar hands were needed for each, thus he can only make 2. 6/3=2. Not to mention it created a far larger explosion than the 6 Bijuu Dama Rasen Shuriken he used, meaning the quality of this attack>>>>Quality of the rest of his attacks.

Punch his arm off? He cut it off with a chakra arm, and by the time Naruto had access to Sasuke's body, their avatars had been destroyed and they had reverted to base due to chakra loss and heavy damage. Base Naruto can't do that, and that explains why he didn't use Sage Mode, not enough chakra to enter it.

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Except Naruto couldn't have used 9 Bijuu Dama Rasen Shuriken. He used the Nature Energy Kurama gathered for him to buff his Avatar and create 1 Giant FRS and 1 Bijuu Dama Rasen Shuriken. 3 Avatar hands were needed for each, thus he can only make 2. 6/3=2. Not to mention it created a far larger explosion than the 6 Bijuu Dama Rasen Shuriken he used, meaning the quality of this attack>>>>Quality of the rest of his attacks.

Punch his arm off? He cut it off with a chakra arm, and by the time Naruto had access to Sasuke's body, their avatars had been destroyed and they had reverted to base due to chakra loss and heavy damage. Base Naruto can't do that, and that explains why he didn't use Sage Mode, not enough chakra to enter it.

He could've earlier in the fight and you might be right but he could've used two bijuudama rasenshuriken, he had enough chakra to fight til dawn and still rock sasuke after being drained so he could've went in sage mode

 

[KidGamer65]

He could've earlier in the fight and you might be right but he could've used two bijuudama rasenshuriken, he had enough chakra to fight til dawn and still rock sasuke after being drained so he could've went in sage mode

Useless since Sasuke's strongest attack (Indra's Arrow) matches Naruto's strongest attack, thus Sasuke would counter it.

"he could have" is nothing but an assumption. No reason to believe he can make something stronger than what he did. Especially since the specific reason why he didn't do what you think he could do isn't solidified. Maybe he only had enough for a Bijuu Dama FRS and a normal enhanced FRS instead of two Bijuu Dama FRS. We don't know.

Chakra to fight till dawn? Not a big deal considering it was pure Taijutsu from that moment on, which only solidifies the fact that he was completely drained. So no, he couldn't have entered Sage Mode.

 

[saw2097]

Mentally?

Sasuke's goals, his ideals, and his ego were defeated by Naruto.

The fist fight is a tiny detail, Naruto got exactly what he wanted, Sasuke gave up and threw in the towel.

Basically the fist fight tied, but Naruto won the battle between the two of them and destroyed what Sasuke had become.

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Useless since Sasuke's strongest attack (Indra's Arrow) matches Naruto's strongest attack, thus Sasuke would counter it.

"he could have" is nothing but an assumption. No reason to believe he can make something stronger than what he did. Especially since the specific reason why he didn't do what you think he could do isn't solidified. Maybe he only had enough for a Bijuu Dama FRS and a normal enhanced FRS instead of two Bijuu Dama FRS. We don't know.

Chakra to fight till dawn? Not a big deal considering it was pure Taijutsu from that moment on, which only solidifies the fact that he was completely drained. So no, he couldn't have entered Sage Mode.

He could've blitzed hi, early I meant, when he didn't have susanoo up. Naruto made a raaengan and tripped, then made one after he was drained, he could've used that for sage mode.

 

[KidGamer65]

He could've blitzed hi, early I meant, when he didn't have susanoo up. Naruto made a raaengan and tripped, then made one after he was drained, he could've used that for sage mode.

Then Sasuke would have:

A) Used Susanoo to block his blitz.

B) Evade with Rinne Shift.

Lol. Since when did the chakra needed for a Rasengan equal the chakra needed for Sage Mode?

 

[UzumakiSO6P]

Personally I think the OP is still slightly off.

Physically and Emotionally are two aspects of a fight/struggle.

Physically = Draw
Emotionally= Naruto
As a whole=Naruto, because the emotion/what he set out to do compared to Sasuke, is more important than any physical fight in the world.

Simply put, Naruto won, there's just some details that go into that.

 

[so12p]

No draw. Sasuke lost. Manga fact now. Get over it.

 

[DHOH]

Personally I think the OP is still slightly off.

Physically and Emotionally are two aspects of a fight/struggle.

Physically = Draw
Emotionally= Naruto
As a whole=Naruto, because the emotion/what he set out to do compared to Sasuke, is more important than any physical fight in the world.

Simply put, Naruto won, there's just some details that go into that.

I can agree with this, but the most important part is the physical battle.. That's where all the bragging come in.

 

[UzumakiSO6P]

I can agree with this, but the most important part is the physical battle.. That's where all the bragging come in.

Physical is the most enjoyable, not the most important haha.