Perspective -- The better Hokage candidate; Itachi or Madara?

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Your sheer arrogance in the idea of your way being the right way and everyone else's being incredibly limited is ridiculous, the hubris of it is baffling.

Yeah, it makes engaging in these threads a chore, it's his answer to everything, he didn't engage in my previous post really at all. Just let him have his fun with his online roleplay escapism.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Arrogance? Perhaps you're referring to yourself, as I've noted both Itachi, and Madara both are worthy candidates -- Perhaps your excitement to ridicule me put that out of sight yes?

What you're not understanding is that Hiruzen & Danzo put Itachi in a lose/lose situation -- It was either kill the clan, or allow the clan to continue with their coup d'etat and be eliminated, along with being the cause for hundreds, maybe thousands of innocent village lives.

If you cannot grasp the tamer of the two evils, than it's as I stated: "Your perspective is limited."

So Itachi shouldn't have made an effort for the two leaders to meet? Hiruzen and Fugaku. He should have just conformed to two old tyrants without making an effort with his so called 'pacifism'?

I believe that a true resolution could have been made, can you not see how short-sighted and arrogant the village was in the belief that they could blame the Uchiha for the attack of the Nine-tails and the kill them all at the slightest hint of unrest and resistance? Was Itachi supposed to just lie there and accept how tyrannical the village was being?

You're calling my view limited without accepting that both sides were at fault in a sense and should have communed, but no, Itachi should have simply conformed to the pressure put on him by Hiruzen and Danzo. Madara was correct when telling Hashirama that he was a backwards man, how disgusting can you be to say that a village full of strangers are more important than your family? Look what this mans ideology led to. Genocide.

 

[DrProof]

The amount of immaturity in this thread... Sheesh.

 

[Nagi]

Firstly, I want to voice how I appreciate you not bashing me for disagreement, or out of immaturity -- I simply wanted to have a differently perceived discussion. For that, I thank you.

I agree with the majority, except for the fact that family & friends won't always come before the village when innocent victims are at hand. Answer me this. If you were in Itachi's position being a lose/lose situation what would you have done?

Allow the Uchiha to let themselves be killed, and kill hundreds/thousands of innocent villagers, or slaughter the Uchiha, with the exception of your younger sibling?

I'd take the latter, as it's the most reasonable of the two "evils." The life of many > the life of few. Itachi suffered an inescapable burden. He did so out of love for his clan, and Sasuke (most of all).

I love discussions like this...

Since it was a lose/lose situation. The answer is pretty simple. Kill the whole clan AND KILL DANZO! Then take Sasuke out of the village. You shouldn't want your own brother to be rasied in a village who refused to reach an agreement with your clan. It was the 3rd hokage who indirectly accsued the Uchiha clan for the death of the 4th hokage.

Now, If I was Itachi, I would simply talk to father about having the whole clan fake their death and leave the village. Those who wouldn't agree to such idea, grant them a quick death in their sleep.

Danzo said if a civil war break out, other nations would attack the hidden leaf village. If the uchiha clan is gone, ain't that a more reason to attack the hidden leaf village when they just lost a great deal of power right there? How the hell a civil war didn't break out with other people in the village since the whole police force was gone overnight?

 

[Amenotejikara]

The amount of immaturity in this thread... Sheesh.

So is responding to your own thread with a different account :lol

 

[DrProof]

So is responding to your own thread with a different account :lol

Ah you're new. I won't bother lol. Have fun bud.

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[whiteboy2345]

What was the point of this thread if the OP isn't even interested in trying to understand the opposing side at all, or acknowledging the flaws of his own side.

This is all a cluster.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

What was the point of this thread if the OP isn't even interested in trying to understand the opposing side at all, or acknowledging the flaws of his own side.

This is all a cluster.

It's as if a forum is for debate and discussion rather than shouting your close-minded, decided opinions at everyone else.

Nah, try-hard alt is a try-hard alt. I miss Femme.

 

[Winterstark]

In war times - Madara, but during peace Itachi would have made a better Fifth for example

 

[whiteboy2345]

During peace Itachi would have been an ass-hole.

Look at what he did to maintain peace, spoiling the majority of Konoha as usual. I laughed when Pain got his hands on them and showed them that they weren't all that they thought they were.

 

[Amenotejikara]

Ah you're new. I won't bother lol. Have fun bud.

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Funny, cause it wasn't like that till after I called you out.

P.S- you can have two accounts appear on two separate devices as shown above.

 

[UnknownJin]

can u write normal ? didnt even read this shit... - Madara

 

[Guntah]

Perfect is a beautiful lie, there is no "perfect" in a world of opinions. You claim Madara to be a warmonger, yet through a more open perspective he cared greatly, wanting to end war through autocracy; Itachi, or Madara would be respectable Hokages through some eyes, and unsuitable in others.

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Madara wished for peace, but that doesn't mean he wanted to achieve peace the peaceful way. Rather, subduing others under Konoha's control. Even if he had been made Hokage, I don't see this flashback happening very differently.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

I feel as if Madara would have done a better job making enemies.

I can't say who would be better overall though.

 

[Pyro NB]

I'm pretty torn on this but I'm going to have to say, Madara only if he didn't want to place the entire world into a genjutsu.

 

[Livenojutsu]

fugaku lol

 

[Oblivionx]

Itachi may be one of the most intelligent character but hokage post doesn't suit him. Madara is better candidate out of the two because he has the charisma needed off of a leader. Itachi is better playing off like sasuke is doing in baruto. Madara is a leader by nature, itachi isn't.