Personal Views: Your thoughts on Religion
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Like I said before, they are like Religion this and Religion that. But if you say anything bad about religion they are going ham on you but they don't even know what kind of things happened because of religion.
And like this dude said before, that he would show me "examples of what atheism did to the world." I still dont see any.
And like this dude said before, that he would show me "examples of what atheism did to the world." I still dont see any.
it killed millions of ppl because of the simple fact that they do not believe in god
it repressed science
the medical practices were rediculous, when one was sick a doctor would cut a cross in a scalp and pray instead of treat it
major wars were started
9/11
killing in the name of religion was considered honourable
religion was an excuse used by the nazis
the church was at power for hundreds of years living the glamorous life while wars were being fought for them and ppl were starving
the simple fact that you can buy forgiveness is absurd
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you can say religion brought us valuable guidances in life but the fact is that it was created by humans and that human common sense created those laws and they would be here now regardless of religious presence
srsly if civillizations like Ancient Greece or Romans would have never died out how advanced do you think we would be? if the church wasnt so affraid of science what do you think the woprld would be like?
atheists:
get divorced less
are the least represented minority in prisons
are less likely to commit suicide
less likely to commit any crimes
are normally higher educated
more respectful towards others
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these are facts from a friend of my GF a study from a university!!
get divorced less
are the least represented minority in prisons
are less likely to commit suicide
less likely to commit any crimes
are normally higher educated
more respectful towards others
...
these are facts from a friend of my GF a study from a university!!
All of you atheist can't respect any of us, not my belief. You can't show any respect toward your creator, shame on you for highly insulting what I believe and approving it. Science, science..... Sometimes named "Enemy of God" so I'm not surprised when they bring up these stupid arguments.
The Escape from Egypt by Moses, you know that's where science shouldn't be involved, do not tell me about the escape when you don't know why the people of Israel escaped?
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The Escape from Egypt by Moses, you know that's where science shouldn't be involved, do not tell me about the escape when you don't know why the people of Israel escaped?
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Shut up! Noc wrote all of these and you wrote just 3, and still he was faster?! :|
Whatever...I'm saying what your friend Tox sad:
Atheism has and always will be a shit stain on mankind!
Do you like that?!Seryously....if you want to know....there are 100.000.000 and more anti-atheist than atheists!
Why atheism is wrong?!:
Atheism is defined as a lack of belief in a supernatural being, creator, or deity. Briefly, it is a lack of belief in God.
It is one of the major opponents of the Christian Church and Christian beliefs. It has always been diretly related to materialism. Summed up, the more materialistic a society is, the less spiritual it becomes. The less spiritual it becomes, the stronger atheism affects that society.
Therefore, the more materialistic a society becomes, the more atheism strengthens over it.
Atheism relies mostly on logic, analysis, and science. They do not believe in faith, nor the miracles of the Bible.
Atheism, though has major flaws. At first glance, it seems atheism has a strong, irrefutable, non-debatable position. Like so many things in this world, it looks good only on the outside, but actually is weak on the inside - a foundation built on sand.
Atheism has three major flaws:
Atheist Statement No. 1 - "Atheism declares it does not believe in faith, that science is the way to truth because it does not rely on faith unlike religion. Science does not rely on faith and therefore cannot be biased."
Christian answer: Even in science, we still need a certain degree of faith in scientists and researchers since we ourselves cannot possibly verify all their findings to prove that what they are saying is true.
Unless you can verify scientists' findings one by one for yourself, you will have to accept their "word" at face value. You will have to believe that what they're saying is true. You will have to have "faith" in their words.
Look. In the past, we've had "scientific errors" committed by scientists. Errors such as scientific facts that were declared as truth but were later found out to be false or in doubt.
Among numerous examples, one example is found in medical science. For many years, scientists/researchers have always declared that damage to the human spinal cord was permanent and irreversible. This was a scientific fact, established as the truth before.
However, only recently, this previous scientific fact was proven to be, well, untrue. Modern findings have proven that the human spinal cord does regenerate, albeit, in a very slow manner. A lot of people with damaged spinal cords have been able to walk, much against the declaration of their doctors that all hope was lost.
That science is not based on faith is totally false. Therefore, this refutes the first statement of atheism.
As St. Francis of Assisi wisely said "Faith is higher than reason. Reason is useless.... unless you believe."
Atheist Statement No. 2 - "Science is based only on purely objective facts, while religion is partially subjective and therefore cannot be purely objective. "
Christian answer: Science relies on objectivity, and needs to utilize a method called the "scientific method". The scientific method relies on observation, experimentation, data-gathering, etc.
Once science loses its objectivity, or becomes partially subjective, it loses its credibility as a discipline.
Therein lies the problem. The scientific method does provide purely objective data, BUT scientists still have to "interpret them. Since scientists are only human, the interpretation of the data becomes mixed with personal opinions and become "partially subjective". This cannot be avoided.
Scientists are human beings with different beliefs, religions, philosophies, and come from various countries and cultures throughout the globe.
Take for example the debate on the origin of the universe. This major debate has been going on for centuries, and has divided the scientific community into "creationist scientists" and "evolutionist scientists".
The creationist scientists believe that the universe has order, design, and was created by an intelligent, omnpiotent being, a god. God is the creator of the universe.
The evolutionist scientists believe otherwise. They state that the universe has no design, has no order and is random. They reject the idea of a god, a creator of our universe.
And it doesn't even matter who has more numbers on either side. The truth is never based on "majority wins".
Say for example, my friend and I hid a silver coin inside a box. Now, we make a survey and ask all people around the world if they believe a coin exists in the box or not.
Even if all people around the world said they don't believe a coin exists in the box, the truth is not affected by their numbers. My friend and I know the truth that a coin does exist because we hid it ourselves! So truth is not based on majority opinion.
Atheist statement number 2 is therefore false.
Atheist Statement No. 3) "Science is better than religion because it relies on an objective method - the scientific method. This method produces truth because it is based on objective data, experimentations, logic, etc. Religion does not use an objective method and is based on opinion, speculation, etc. It lacks "scientific proof", on "miracles" in the Holy Bible."
Christian answer: Science does rely on an objective method, but by what authority does the "scientific method" produce truth? By what authority does science possess when it says we must believe science because it utilizes the "scientific method"?
I mean you cannot state that science is an authority of truth simpy because it uses the scientific method. It's like saying "I therefore conclude that science produces truth because it uses the scientific method."
By what authority?
How will you prove using the scientific method does produce truth? Because it's "scientific"? Because science said so? Again, the question "By what authority does science have by proclaiming to be the truth than religion"?
The statement "The results of the scientific method should be followed" is unscientific because it is a value statement that does not get its authority from anywhere but itself.
"We should use the scientific method." Why should we? "It proves itself." How does it prove itself? "It uses the scientific method."
Atheist Statement: "The scientific method is true because it works and because it is axiomatic (self-evident)."
Christian answer: Sounds a lot like faith to me. Who decides what is axiomatic? does the scientific method decide it? That makes it circular if it does. If not, then it is not scientific itself.
I would have to do all the experiments to come to that conclusion. Other than that, I take it on faith that all of the scientists who did the experiments and reviewed them and tested them are not lying to me. That is my point.
You cannot use the "scientific method" as a reason to make science as an authority of truth, simply because the only way to prove science as the truth is to use the "scientific method"! The logic is circular.
And yes, the miracles in the Bible have been verified by both atheist (for objectivity) and theist (God-believing) scientists as true historical events. Events such as the Exodus from Egypt, David slaying Goliath, parting of the Red Sea, etc. were tested and researched using modern scientific methods. Watch "Secrets of the Bible" at Cable TV's "Discovery Channel".
At a different cable channel, underwater cameras showed pictures of ancient relics -particularly a large "chariot wheel" deep beneath the Red Sea. When traced back, the design of the wheel was identical to the chariots used in Egypt at around the time Moses' parting of the Red Sea occurred!
God has been so gracious as to provide solid, irrefutable evidence to believers and non-believers alike.
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Dude, you people are so ridiculous. I just told you a few examples so now where are the examples of what Atheism has done. And of course is Scienece the Enemy of god. The one that will always win.
And we do respect you people, just not people like you who want to shove their religion down other peoples throat.
You did a nice job at that, even tho you didn't wrote it.
So now please do summary of all that for me. (tl;dr
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I reported this thread and different persons on it, I can't allow myself to stay here and do nothing, these heavy insults should not be ignored!
Science will always win? Are you out of your mind, you insult me and you say "I want to shove my religion down to other peoples throat"? Really how more hypocrite can you get!
You said that you will see that I was wrong even tho I don't believe all this. And we don't "insult" you. We insult religion.
And I can't undertsand why you people just cant continue doing this. . . but no, you have to report everything.
Oh, oh, the internet, I feel so offened, uh oh.
And I can't undertsand why you people just cant continue doing this. . . but no, you have to report everything.
Oh, oh, the internet, I feel so offened, uh oh.
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