steezygezzy
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O and everyone please calm down. This started out as a level headed debate so please keep it this way. No one wants to argue, were just hearing ideas so please dont lash out at others 
Personal Views: Your thoughts on Religion
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I m a MUSLIM n to me religion[ISLAM] is very important it is a complete code of life
without a religion i think there will be no point of living
n there will be no difference between a human being n animal
Think for a second if one pot of mud cannot be created by itself how can this whole universe is created there is some thing n thats God[ALLAH]
There is some Great power who is controlling the universe N God has given the religion to live a life that is different from all others
Ps:I am not opposing some one Just trying to share my views
without a religion i think there will be no point of living
n there will be no difference between a human being n animal
Think for a second if one pot of mud cannot be created by itself how can this whole universe is created there is some thing n thats God[ALLAH]
There is some Great power who is controlling the universe N God has given the religion to live a life that is different from all others
Ps:I am not opposing some one Just trying to share my views
good one
MY OPINION (NO OFFENSE)
religion was at first a tool to understand the laws of nature and physics, it was later adopted by new religions when they were born and the story got altered, and so on, every religion today has the same concept created long ago by people who could not yet comprehend the laws of nature. so the basic mechanic of religion is x thousand years old, so is its way of thinking, and if you go into todays science (or older, greek, ...) you can see how those falsely answered questions are finally being answered and supported by truth
however religion almost died amidst the millenia, but it was spread widely again because kings, emperors, ... needed a way to legitimize their doings so they used ''the fear of god and ''hell'' '' to keep those they ruled over in line, and with that they did the greatest mistake in our history because the brilliant age of the greatest civillizations yet (greece, roman empire, ...) fell because of the new religion and science fell into nothing (greece and romans had much knowledge a lot of which is still unrivaled today), but repression became too great and the progress of human race disappeared for almost thousand years, science was basically punishable for a long period of time in the darkest years of human race
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THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION, if anyone was offended that wasnt my intention | i could go on (but this are mostly facts and they mostly cant be disagreed with)
Mephistopheles
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My opinion:
Everyone may believe whatever they want and there is no reason for war over it, or disliking people for their believes. That would be the same if people don't like a colour you like, etc.
I think the evolution theory is right.
Everyone may believe whatever they want and there is no reason for war over it, or disliking people for their believes. That would be the same if people don't like a colour you like, etc.
I think the evolution theory is right.
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I'm not religious.. I don't believe in evil or something like that.. I even don't believe in gods.. I don't believe in spirits, either... that's my opinion.
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Maybe I believe in spirits.. xd
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Maybe I believe in spirits.. xd
I was brought up in a muslim family, so I was brought up as a muslim, even though I don't know what religion I should choose, I don't believe in some practises of Islam by people like Islamic extremists, like circumcision, I believe in Islam and have faith in it and most of its beliefs (the ones I deem good and pure) but I believe we can control our fate, one thing I found is that in the Q'uran it says that god gave us free will to do whatever we wanted except upset others, and stuff like that), I don't want to be mislead, always following something untrue, so, like most people, i'm mostly unsure. One thing, I have to say is that, most muslims have the wrong idea about its true beliefs (the beliefs of Muslims now could have easily been different from the original teachings, think about it, anyone could change the Q'uran over a period of some 500 years, because now (me having read the Q'uran) some beliefs contradict each other in the Q'uran ). So i'm unsure atm, so i'm a part- muslim. Religion isn't actually something that causes war, its the arrogant so called "religious" people, they believe that their religion is right and no-one should go against their beliefs.
Well, thats my opinion...
Well, thats my opinion...
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Technically, Buddhism isn't a religion I reckon, because Buddha isn't a God, but a Prince (Siddharta Gotama?) that lived in a time before we started believing in "God".
As for myself, I don't any religion. I just mind fundamental beliefs.
You can cherish and protect things that matter, but you can't be obsessed by it, and certainly not when you hurt/manipulate other people with it.
In majority, I like Karl Marx's quote: "Religion is the opium of the masses."
You can still imply this to many tribes / cultures.
I believe in something, but i don't know what. There are too many different religions out there to chose from and over the years alot have come and gone.
I don't have any problems with someone who believes in a specific religion or that may have different views than mine. Unfortunately, when i am told point blank "you are going to hell because my bible(i am using the name bible just for reference, you can insert any religious book here) says you must believe in my religion" that does cause me concern.
The sad part is so many people are willing to hate, discriminate and even kill each other over their religious beliefs. Yes i know people do these things over many things, but let's just take one more reason out of the equation. Just my opinion.:hug:
I don't have any problems with someone who believes in a specific religion or that may have different views than mine. Unfortunately, when i am told point blank "you are going to hell because my bible(i am using the name bible just for reference, you can insert any religious book here) says you must believe in my religion" that does cause me concern.
The sad part is so many people are willing to hate, discriminate and even kill each other over their religious beliefs. Yes i know people do these things over many things, but let's just take one more reason out of the equation. Just my opinion.:hug:
steezygezzy
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Dude people should just stop trying to hate on everyone else.
I just think you should study was it out there and choose for yourself.
After doing research i became christian but there alot of people hating religion on here that havent looked into. There is alot of mis conceptions on this thread also.
I see debate as a tool for satan to put us all against each other and just become angry ( which we shouldnt)
This thread was put up to understand other peoples views so lets keep it that way.
there is God that created everything from nothing ( like the big bang states ) everything that was ever going to be got created at that instance including time that God is not governed by ( no sun and moon telling God what time it is, everything is simultaneously presnt to God he doesnt have to wait for things to happen ) and proof of this is everywere if all the humans and animals were to hold each others hands and hum we couldnt produce somthing from NOTHING.
I am a Muslim witch means I submit to God alone and dont associate anything or anyone with God, and i do respect all views ..
Remember the Darwin THeory is that only, a theory (otherwise it would be called Darwin FACT instead of THEORY) a theory thats been disproven by dogs, sheep and other domestic animals that can mix breeds and produce new traits in one generation and not a million years as Darwin states.
acknowledge God and he will acknowledge you back by 1000 fold , it is God that has created in all creations good and evil and it is man who desides how to use it .
In the name of God most gracious and most merciful.
Say he is God ,the one , the only , the absolute, the eternal, the self sustaining.
He beget not (he doesnt give birth)
Nor was he begotten (he was not born)
And there is non like unto him (nothing is his equal even human images)
this paragraph is from the Qurran
God bless all of us
I am a Muslim witch means I submit to God alone and dont associate anything or anyone with God, and i do respect all views ..
Remember the Darwin THeory is that only, a theory (otherwise it would be called Darwin FACT instead of THEORY) a theory thats been disproven by dogs, sheep and other domestic animals that can mix breeds and produce new traits in one generation and not a million years as Darwin states.
acknowledge God and he will acknowledge you back by 1000 fold , it is God that has created in all creations good and evil and it is man who desides how to use it .
In the name of God most gracious and most merciful.
Say he is God ,the one , the only , the absolute, the eternal, the self sustaining.
He beget not (he doesnt give birth)
Nor was he begotten (he was not born)
And there is non like unto him (nothing is his equal even human images)
this paragraph is from the Qurran
God bless all of us
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Well, i'm a believer. My religion isnt mainstream: Umbanda it's named.
Before knowing Umbanda i was an almost atheist. No religion could find its way into my heart and sou/spirit or whatever we call it. The all loving and caring god that controled our fate it's not for me. Still isnt.
I used to say: If god exists then he must be like this and like that and so on.
In Umbanda i found that god.
Putting it very simply (and that's just an awfull error because it wont explain my view as i'd like) we are here to learn a bunch of thing. We do it with a kind of trial and error. We will suffer, we will cry, we will smile, we will have joy, we will feel fear, hope, sadness, happiness, etc, etc etc. But we will learn, we will evolve.
One thing is for sure, we wont be able to prove God in a lab. Thar it's just stupid because searching for God is searching for one self. In little things we will find Him. But we have to look, we have to have a scientific approach. Formulate a theory and try to prove it wrong or right. I repeat: WE, not other, not just because someone said, be that person the most respected scientist word priest.
Bah, i could stay here for hours...
Before knowing Umbanda i was an almost atheist. No religion could find its way into my heart and sou/spirit or whatever we call it. The all loving and caring god that controled our fate it's not for me. Still isnt.
I used to say: If god exists then he must be like this and like that and so on.
In Umbanda i found that god.
Putting it very simply (and that's just an awfull error because it wont explain my view as i'd like) we are here to learn a bunch of thing. We do it with a kind of trial and error. We will suffer, we will cry, we will smile, we will have joy, we will feel fear, hope, sadness, happiness, etc, etc etc. But we will learn, we will evolve.
One thing is for sure, we wont be able to prove God in a lab. Thar it's just stupid because searching for God is searching for one self. In little things we will find Him. But we have to look, we have to have a scientific approach. Formulate a theory and try to prove it wrong or right. I repeat: WE, not other, not just because someone said, be that person the most respected scientist word priest.
Bah, i could stay here for hours...
ofc nothing will happen if we all hold hands and hum ... we cant alter the laws of physics
darwins thory is prove, we evolve your ancestors were monkeys, so were mine, ofc sheep can do what they do because PEOPLE MADE THEM DO IT XD
but that todays religions are rip offs is a fact and that religion repressed science is a fact too
shisuimirage42
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i believe in God and even if you dont believe the pont of it is to be a good person
in my religion if you are a good person do good things and ask forgiveness for your sins and do the best you think you can the you go to heaven. you're supposed to be a good person because you wanna be good not because you dont wanna burn.
if you are a bad person and you do bad things (action that cause harm to others in any way on purpose and dont wanna repent for it or have any regret for their actions) then hell
and if there isnt A God you die knowing you did wut you could and die with a good reputation and if you do commit wut would be considered as sins in most religions just learn from the mistakes you can recognize to the best of your ability
everybody wants to make shyt so complicated asking for proof of God and religious people wanna argue and fight because other people reject their beliefs
but i dont think religion needs to be rejected because the point of the bible and Quran and other religious books are just guidelines on how be a good person and treat people how you wanna be treated. and after you die you get rewarded and if there is no God you did the best you could
atheist want proof, reject us, use other peoples theories, and all kinds of other stuff.
why because so many people have died in the name of their own religion, so they reject wut causes death and pain. but religion itself never caused death the people who misinterpret the holy books cause death. the bible has never told you any thing wrong but many preachers have told people to hate gays, hate other races, fight,kill, molested kids.
in my religion if you are a good person do good things and ask forgiveness for your sins and do the best you think you can the you go to heaven. you're supposed to be a good person because you wanna be good not because you dont wanna burn.
if you are a bad person and you do bad things (action that cause harm to others in any way on purpose and dont wanna repent for it or have any regret for their actions) then hell
and if there isnt A God you die knowing you did wut you could and die with a good reputation and if you do commit wut would be considered as sins in most religions just learn from the mistakes you can recognize to the best of your ability
everybody wants to make shyt so complicated asking for proof of God and religious people wanna argue and fight because other people reject their beliefs
but i dont think religion needs to be rejected because the point of the bible and Quran and other religious books are just guidelines on how be a good person and treat people how you wanna be treated. and after you die you get rewarded and if there is no God you did the best you could
atheist want proof, reject us, use other peoples theories, and all kinds of other stuff.
why because so many people have died in the name of their own religion, so they reject wut causes death and pain. but religion itself never caused death the people who misinterpret the holy books cause death. the bible has never told you any thing wrong but many preachers have told people to hate gays, hate other races, fight,kill, molested kids.
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shisuimirage42
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i would actually say the :that science has repressed religions just look at the post on here and oh my damn the thousand of videos on youtube talkin shyt bout religion lol all of them talking about theories and evolution and wutever else they say proves God doesn't exist
chieflazyarse
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Debate as a tool for satan? I think ignorance is a greater problem than debate, if we don't discuss things we will never understand each other and the hatred and bigotry will never stop, of course in saying that some people are so dogmatic they refuse to even acknowledge another persons belief (think religious extremists) and thats wrong but it is important that not only we know about what others believe in but to ask questions and gain a better understanding of each others faith
Lord Quiglo
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in my opinion religion is mankind's safe guard against the unknown. whether it's sickness, famine, flood, or even death religion is simply there to help us face the unknown. However that does not mean we should dissect everything and make nothing unknown to us. that would take away the beauty in things. i don't want to know why a butterfly is pretty i just want to enjoy its beauty.
i do think there is some higher power out there. some shit is just to crazy to belive that it just happened on its one. Sorry if either of my points have been already made i just don't have the time to read 107 replies to this post to see if my statement will be original or not.
i do think there is some higher power out there. some shit is just to crazy to belive that it just happened on its one. Sorry if either of my points have been already made i just don't have the time to read 107 replies to this post to see if my statement will be original or not.
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