I don't even want to comment this, that comment was the not needed, it was not wanted, and it didn't earn you anything but disapproval in my eyes...
Feel free to comment as you wish.
ZeroG, you've confused me. You quoted my post saying it was dark. But it starts with "Take heart!" And continues to expound the virtues of empathy (which was expressed in your post). It wasn't anything personal.
My first post was a response. It countered the seeming lack of purpose posed in the start of the thread. I posed the idea that progress and standing are indeed rewards. And regardless of the desire to achieve these rewards, they exist and will continue. If you close your eyes, of course what you see is dark.
I ended with light in the darkness, for crying out loud.
Everyone on the internet should learn to apply Hanlon's razor. I'm not being mean, but perhaps I am missing your point?
ZeroG, you've confused me. You quoted my post saying it was dark. But it starts with "Take heart!" And continues to expound the virtues of empathy (which was expressed in your post). It wasn't anything personal.
My first post was a response. It countered the seeming lack of purpose posed in the start of the thread. I posed the idea that progress and standing are indeed rewards. And regardless of the desire to achieve these rewards, they exist and will continue. If you close your eyes, of course what you see is dark.
I ended with light in the darkness, for crying out loud.
Everyone on the internet should learn to apply Hanlon's razor. I'm not being mean, but perhaps I am missing your point?
I'm at the end of my line.
The cliff is ahead of me. Should I take the plunge?
It's not the burdens that I carry that me towards such an end.
Instead, it's those...despicable ones that push me forward.
Why the hell do you seek power? Why THE HELL do you seek reputation?
Fools. Pitiful fools. What IF you conquer everything? What the hell do you get from it? You step on the heads of those close to you just to take one more step up.
How pitiful.
How...very pitiful.
Why must you add to such a cycle? Such a cycle of lying, cheating, killing...does it make you any happier to be part of such a thing?
And you.
You that came in so innocent. I sigh in deep pity for you.
Tricking those that were close to you in order to pull yourself up...you might be a tad higher than those that were like you.
But to think that you even sniped one upon my path.
How despicable. Even now, rage burns against you.
And you.
How could you let yourself be handled in such a way? Letting yourself be tied upon a rope and dragged along like some puppet.
Those valuable things besides you. How could you let them be stolen so easily?
And you.
I thought you weren't like all the others.
But I was wrong.
In the end...it's just power and reputation, no?
But, let me remind you.
It's a two-way path.
Face the truth or turn your face away from it.
Come, and walk with me...
Or push me off the cliff.
Nothing happen to the solar system :|
Russians will use a nuclear bomb and destroy half of America. Then America will use another bomb and destroy Asia. And the circle will go on, till every human dies :|
This is getting too dark, i'm dark'ish and all, but you people seriously should consider the possibility of people changing, and the world changing, change can be a good thing or a bad thing, the whole world is a gamble, but it's worth that risk. Listen to this song, it's childish and all, but it says a lot about unity and what you can achieve by it.
This is one of those days when I look incredibly up on you, but on the other hand, I can't stand you, I simply can't understand your way of thinking, I don't get your psychology.
I simply hate your first post, even now I wonder how I can get rid of it, I wonder who the text is about, and I hate myself right now, because I see myself as a person, who’s fit to be one of the people in that text, and it hurts badly.
But I should know, that I don't know you, and you don't know me well enough, to include me in that post, but even so, I see myself everywhere, and I hate myself for it. Maybe I’m just taking the internet too seriously, but sometimes you get to know people on the web, you talk to them more than just visitor messaging them, it becomes a special friendship, a bond formed only on words, not on your looks, not on your stuff, not even how you act or how old you are, only words, just walls of text that forms relationships and impression with other persons. People you've never seen, but people that you sometimes get to know much more than you initially wanted.
I have such bonds with some people, and although I don't speak a lot with you Tenzo, I feel that we at least know each other well enough, to create an impression of each other. I might be one of the people included in that text, if I am, don't tell me, if I am not, don't tell me either, because even though this probably is about entirely different people, it's a valuable lesson for everybody, but it's also a lesson that can cost you something, keep that in mind.
Let's keep in mind that my value of something does not come from power and reputation. Instead, of what's true behind everyone's action and intentions, which are, most of the time, rather selfish. Yes, including me, sadly.
Maybe I’m just taking the internet too seriously, but sometimes you get to know people on the web, you talk to them more than just visitor messaging them, it becomes a special friendship, a bond formed only on words, not on your looks, not on your stuff, not even how you act or how old you are, only words, just walls of text that forms relationships and impression with other persons.
Exactly. I am very impressed by these words. I've known people for over an year on this website (such as James (Sinister) and Akiza) and they are still great friends despite the fact that the Internet has some rather irritating boundaries. The Internet allows one the time to think before typing. The ability to form a reputation the way you wish since people aren't exactly given the opportunity to one-time judge you in your appearance or actions.
You're not the only one, Zero. Very few people know me well or get to know me since I find I'm the usually the one coaching others. The only person I would give credit to would be Ingwer, who happened to form a bond with me in my more innocent days. And perhaps a bit of Keotsu. I don't trust anyone. This is the case with me in society and school too.
Nothing comes without a sacrifice. As you mention later on, the world is a gamble, and so is everything in you and I's life.
Every generation thinks the next is the last and the world is coming to ruin. Yet it all presses on. Socrates actually thought writing would make people stupid. But look at all the progress since then. The point of the struggle to conquer, for power and reputation, is the ease it pulls in its wake. It is a struggle to build a crane, but when it's done, lifting the girders of a skyscraper are easy. To have power is to not be a victim of it. To act on whim instead of being subject to it.
At the bottom of the cliff, there is a ravine. It leads to a path. The path goes back to the mountain top. Progress is it's own means and end. Humanity is progress. The means of progress consist of looking into the darkness, and seeing not despair, but opportunity to fill it with light.
You seem like a very interesting person. Perhaps I'll like to talk to you more about such things later on sometime.
Regarding your argument, I remember this question from somewhere. "Is a struggle is necessary for progress?" It may not always be true. Some people have it easier than others simply because of the environment they're in. People who have a rich family may find it a less of a struggle to get a car than people who have a more poorer family. However, that's not the point. My point is WHY people struggle for such things. Is it even worth it?
I seem to find that the darkness is better than the light. In the light, we are blinded. Blinded by what, exactly?
Nothing more our own desires. Temptations. Those things that make us happy. In the light, we seen happiness.
And what exactly is happiness? It's what you feel when you get what you want, is it not? We're blinded by this.
In the darkness, we're forced to see the truth and reality. It hits us like nothing else. We've finally calmed down, our eyes opened, forced to see the what is really going on behind the scenes.
Despair is one of my favorite literature words. Why so? Because it's a word so full of emotion. It's one of the biggest things that drives a human. This word is also the driving point of many movies. Necessarily, I find that it has a more of a positive denotation for me than a negative one. Why exactly would I want to fill an abyss with light until it blinds me that I can no longer see when I will hit the bottom?
How old are you? Because if you were older or lived in Russia you wouldnt say that....and no I wont go into a deep and big explanation why -_-
(btw yes I am russian ^_^)
Thread@ Nice...but your a bit wrong IMO. I dont fear dying,I fear the pain.Knowing that death will come in the end to everything,just means you live on, until by means of nature it will be taken from you.Until then you should just live
Moot statement. I believe I mentioned that.
At the point of Death, a lot of people are scared, however. Trust me. It's a major difference sitting in front of a computer simply typing than with a person holding a knife besides your throat.
ZeroG, you've confused me. You quoted my post saying it was dark. But it starts with "Take heart!" And continues to expound the virtues of empathy (which was expressed in your post). It wasn't anything personal.
My first post was a response. It countered the seeming lack of purpose posed in the start of the thread. I posed the idea that progress and standing are indeed rewards. And regardless of the desire to achieve these rewards, they exist and will continue. If you close your eyes, of course what you see is dark.
I ended with light in the darkness, for crying out loud.
Everyone on the internet should learn to apply Hanlon's razor. I'm not being mean, but perhaps I am missing your point?
I have nothing to do with your argument. Yes, there was no exact purpose in starting this thread. Perhaps I felt like debating. Perhaps not.
I don't necessarily find that true.
Closing your eyes may give you time to shut out your own desires...thus, when you open it again, you may see things in another light.
Hanlon's Razor? Care to explain? It would be useless to analyze it literally.
Amusing.
I hope you realize that literature works as a two-way sword. Even though it may seem not, sweet sounding words may hide the curses of a thousand. Such example of this would be the songs that the slaves sang during the Civil War period. Although the songs sounded happy, the slaves themselves were singing through sorrow from the bottom of their hearts.
Hanlon's razor states you should never attribute to malice what can just as easily be attributed to ignorance. I put it there to say I wasn't trying to insult him, but rather maybe I was mistaken. More generally though, on the internet people seem to be insulted personally when someone is wrong. It's my belief that if Hanlon's razor was applied to the internet (and politics) that the general discourse could be more civil.
As to the point of struggle, I'll refer everyone to Albert Camus' Myth of Sisyphus. It is a short essay about just that.
Hanlon's razor states you should never attribute to malice what can just as easily be attributed to ignorance. I put it there to say I wasn't trying to insult him, but rather maybe I was mistaken. More generally though, on the internet people seem to be insulted personally when someone is wrong. It's my belief that if Hanlon's razor was applied to the internet (and politics) that the general discourse could be more civil.
As to the point of struggle, I'll refer everyone to Albert Camus' Myth of Sisyphus. It is a short essay about just that.
I'll look into that concept more.
And the essay if I have time.
Actually, speaking. Do you happen to major in some branch of philosophy or literature? You seem well-read into these topics.
Naturally, I started this thread on account of my own opinions.
I believe you have your own too upon certain topics too so unless you have something else to say besides posting meaningless words, this is benefiting neither of us.
Naturally, I started this thread on account of my own opinions.
I believe you have your own too upon certain topics too so unless you have something else to say besides posting meaningless words, this is benefiting neither of us.