People seriously underestimate zabuza momochi

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so many people write him off as a great ninja but the man before kakashi was UNDEFEATED and he's killed i imagine dozens of highly ranked ninja during that time for money. kakashi is the leafs #1 jonin, the only other jonin at that time that would have beaten him was gai sensei who you all know is kakashis equal. asuma and team asuma would have been slaughtered, asuma's main element was fire and zabuzas water it's opposite not to mention asuma was defeated in part two by hidan who imo zabuza would of sliced into a million pieces. the hidden mist and his silent killing were the best he was almost a perfect assassin he basically beat kakashi but didn't respect naruto and sasuke's abilities and was caught off guard by his arrogance.

a man who's completed 29 A ranked missions and 12 S ranked ones. He's a legendary swordsman of the mist which is a enormous title, the man tried to assassinate the mitzukage for christs sake and didn't die because of it. a man who killed 100 ninja before becoming a f'ing genin. without sharingan kakashi would of been dead. He's at the very least an A ranked missing in, probably an S ranked one in reality. Not to even mention his jutsu which includes a steel strong water prison and high ranking water jutsu that kakashi couldn't break out of and other jutsu like water dragon jutsu.

Obviously he's not on kisame's level but kisame had a better sword and insane levels of chakra not to mention insane strength and both he and zabuza were incredibly intelligent, espeically zabuza. certain guys are bad matches for him like suigetsu for instance but most would die handily. It would of been badass to see zabuza become good and raise a team of genin, talk about being scared of your leader.
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Zabuza would be a huge asset to any team with his unique abilities and strength which is able to swing the beheader sword like it's nothing, something suigetsu a great swordsman and swordsman of the mist level ninja who is adept at the swords can't use properly without making his muscles huge.
 

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Didn't read but he got beat up by base kakashi.. So.
 

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He's a part one character. He's weak by default.

And I consider him in my top 10 favourite characters.
 

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He's a part one character. He's weak by default.

And I consider him in my top 10 favourite characters.

What about Hashirama, Tobirama, Itachi, Orochimaru, Naruto, Sasuke, Minato, Kisame, and more?
 

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Anyone can beat him at this point.
 

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What about Hashirama, Tobirama, Itachi, Orochimaru, Naruto, Sasuke, Minato, Kisame, and more?

Did you not notice they all became more powerful over the timeskip?

Minato wasn't even in part 1.

An Orochimaru in part 2 without arms is stronger than the one on part one with them.

Naruto and Sasuke are pretty obvious to get stronger.
 
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ShaneEyyy would have loved this thread.

OT: The power-scale has changed a lot, he can't compete with anyone in the Top 25 or so.
 
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Did you not notice they all became more powerful over the timeskip?

It's not like they became different characters lol
Itachi even got weaker in Part II because of his disease.
 

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lmao hes not stronger than Asuma IMO and Jonin in the leaf could have beaten em you actually think shickimaru wouldnt thought of something to beat em and Choji with the steroids
 

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He's strong for an average ninja, but not strong enough for ninjas like kakashi
 

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lmao hes not stronger than Asuma IMO and Jonin in the leaf could have beaten em you actually think shickimaru wouldnt thought of something to beat em and Choji with the steroids

before the chunnin exams when naruto and sasuke were incredibly green despite using kyubbi power and getting sharingan 2 tomes? choji, shikamaru, and ino weren't that great until after the chunnin exams in the arc when they fight the sound 4, i doubt choji even has the pills or that shikamaru was THAT good like he is now. at this point they are very very inexperienced shinobi and do realize at this point sasuke was top 3 with lee and neji and even he barely had anything to offer haku. and im not trying to put him up there with kisame, naruto, sasuke, tobi, madara, hashirama, etc. obviously he isn't that good but he is in probably in the top 5% of ninja in naruto(everybody even ones we don't hear about). also realize nobody has the kind of stats he does like him murdering 100 ninja before being a genin, i think only itachi and kakashi were this good back starting up.
 
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You should of said this before sakura gained her new power.
 
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