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Re: people need to clam dowm

my 2 cents is i dont care if it is free or a million dollars when it sucks it sucks when its good its good and this whole arc is shit on a stick it sucks naruto is way to strong now and the first even though we already saw him suck ass is now the best ever and kabuto took over for orochimaru itachi died but now is back and has a new jutsu no one ever heard of and saskue has ems and hasnt shown **** so in short if it sucks i should be able to say it without people giving me shit about it.

i would also like to add that i buy games and dvds so he gets a lot of my money in other ways
This.

I bought 6 dvd's of shippuden(english dubbed) and i actually started reading the manga when there were no more dubbed episodes available first by going online and watching the subbed episodes and later switched to the manga which was ahead of it. Frankly, if i could get this manga by paying like with my graphic novel collection i really would'nt mind. What i do mind is if the story sucks, which it does atm.
 

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Re: people need to clam dowm

Sorry to be hostile, OP, but you are not really making sense.

Whether or not we are buying this ignores the fact that people are getting paid to make it (artists, writers, Kishi). I have bought Naruto manga and merchandise in the past, but the truth is it would be spoiled for me if I did not read it online. And to be honest, I wouldn't pay a dime for that chapter and you are an ignorant consumer if you would have.


I can read the manga for free at a bookstore before I buy it, and nobody would stop me, because by the time it comes to an individual transaction, it does not matter. Subscriptions matter, contracts with distributors matter, merchandising matters, anime contract rights matter. Me buying the manga does not.


What was good about this chapter? An immortal guy got impaled by rocks (pointless), and we learned three awesome facts about Kabuto's childhood:

He needs glasses to see!
Somebody, at some point, helped him to become a viable organism!
He got his name from somebody(who?) putting a helmet on his head once randomly!

WOW! The first two are obvious and the third is insignificant.

We don't know what village he came from, we don't see him learning medical ninjutsu, we don't know what happened to his adopted family, and we don't know who his parents are...

Kishi's favorite move of "have sympathy for this person, because violence/war/hatred made their childhood hard" is completely played:

Nagato/Konan/Yahiko
Naruto
Sasuke
Orochimaru
and nowwww Kabuto


The chapter was indefensibly terrible! Yes, Kabuto needs a backstory, but it shouldn't be revealed as straight exposition in the middle of what is supposed to be an intense battle. These three fighters are moving at a snail's pace.

You like it?

Good for you.

I don't, and we both got it by the same means.
 
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Re: People here really can't be pleased, can they..?

Chapters have been really boring lately but perhaps Kishi is preparing on something MUCH bigger in the chapter, like Madara vs Hashirama flashback or something, like preparing and writing how the fight will be and now he's just making the manga's quicker but instead spending a bit more time on how the fight will be so that everyone will be amazed by that fight.
 

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it's so funny seeing people raging over something they get for free and i find it hard to take those people serious

" its like you taking something for free/steeling and then walking away with it and saying wait i got this for free and it this sucks


and we finally got to see kabuto life which i would of hated not to of seen his past


and i don't want a michael bay type manga where there just explosions

that's my 2 cents
I took time to read the manga I'd rather not waste my time. Time is money correct? Sure it's free but I am spending time on it, I started spending time on it because I thought it would be good and the following chapters promised to be good so I kept spending time. It isn't bad but it could be better, I'd like some time back.
 

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You have to look it on both sides and not overreact, if some people disliked the chapter or thought it was boring, like myself, then you have every right to post your opinion about what you thought of it just like how the people who liked the chapter that post their opinion. But, you shouldn't go around creating threads just because you didn't like the chapter, I hated this chapter, but you don't see me making new threads and then going to flame everything. The same goes for you people who like the chapter, if one says I thought this was boring then let the guy have his opinion and stop squeezing your balls together and flaming him saying stop reading the manga just for the fact he didn't like this specific chapter.
There's a discussion thread for what you thought about chapter 582, go post whatever you think of the chapter there.
I disliked this chapter, I think it was very boring.
 

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I have no problem with back story on characters but did you find Kabuto's backstory compelling at all? Found as an orphan (cliche). Only a few folks displayed kindness to him that will probably end up dying and leaving him alone in this cruel world (Yawn). I was interested in Kabuto's backstory but am dissapointed with it overall. Would have liked him better if he grew up rich with a loving family but just liked power wiped out his entire village for grins.
 

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Re: people need to clam dowm

I wouldn't read anything just because it's free unless I find it good enough to read and this manga is not free - it is published and sold so it needs to take care of those customer's need.

We get it free - That argument is only valid for people who rant and curse writers and uploaders if and when manga goes on a break or is late or abuse translators for errors since that is utterly thankless and selfish attitude.


But I agree with the main point. Many users have been complaining that Kishi doesn't detail much other characters. I persoanlly know that there were readers who were waiting for more details about Kabuto's back ground specifically. They will still be disappointed because they wanted to know where he came from and how he was the sole survivor in a battlefield. Still some people would want more Sasuke and Itachi and then, some who want focus to be back on Madara or Tobi's fight.


There will always be a group of people who would want some other detail than which is being provided by him. There is no way Kishi can win lol..
yeah fully agree and kabuto has been around for so long time we know about his past
 

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I have no problem with back story on characters but did you find Kabuto's backstory compelling at all? Found as an orphan (cliche). Only a few folks displayed kindness to him that will probably end up dying and leaving him alone in this cruel world (Yawn). I was interested in Kabuto's backstory but am dissapointed with it overall. Would have liked him better if he grew up rich with a loving family but just liked power wiped out his entire village for grins.
we haven't even finished his back story, so everyone should wait befoer judging. There's a difference between honest criticism, and mindless bitching and moaning(which is what most of the people here do). I don’t know the secret to success, but the secret to failure is trying to please everybody -Bill Cosby.
 

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we haven't even finished his back story, so everyone should wait befoer judging. There's a difference between honest criticism, and mindless bitching and moaning(which is what most of the people here do). I don’t know the secret to success, but the secret to failure is trying to please everybody -Bill Cosby.
True enough. Tell ya what, I'll make you a bet. If Kabuto's backstory turns out not to be an effort to show us that bad people are just victims of cruel fate, I'll buy you a 3 month premium membership. If I'm right, you follow my "mindless bitching and moaning" posts for three months agreeing with any statement I make, unless conclusively proven false by the manga. Deal?
 

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True enough. Tell ya what, I'll make you a bet. If Kabuto's backstory turns out not to be an effort to show us that bad people are just victims of cruel fate, I'll buy you a 3 month premium membership. If I'm right, you follow my "mindless bitching and moaning" posts for three months agreeing with any statement I make, unless conclusively proven false by the manga. Deal?
I wasn't referring to you beyond the first sentence.
 

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It seems you guys really can't be pleased with Naruto mangas.. (I predict many flames against me but that's ok)

First it was the war which is totally bad although we saw many characters fighting, showing various new ninjutsu, new backgrounds and connectings e.g. to the SOT6P, but no that's boring and bad, because fights like Mifune vs. Hanzo only lasted 3 chapters. THIS IS WAR. It's a fact that in war there is quantity of fights over quality, Kishi had no other choise. I admit I was curious to see some badass-ninjutsu of Hanzo, but it didn't happen because the author decides it, PERIOD.

Then it was Kinkaku and Ginkaku, Gaara vs. Mizukage etc. fights over fights, with no ("annoying") flashbacks just fighting. But just fighting didn't please you, because that doesn't fit to Masashi Kishimoto who elaborated single character with background infos etc. in the "good old Naruto".

So now it's Kabuto.
Sage Mode came from nothing, okay, but for people who already start reading the new manga with a strange mood can't be really surprised about this. For other people it's a sudden shock and they like it. I mean, when Susano'o appeared the first time there was also no hint of that, and people didn't complain "oh man, another MS technique? Can't Itachi just die?"...
Now we see some background information from one of the VILLAINS and you're still not pleased. Since when was a major character beaten without some deeper informations to understand his actions? That's a typical decive of Kishi in Naruto, so why complain? I personally was eager to know how Kabuto lived, because I somehow liked this character.

Seriously, people you can decide what you like and in what extent, but I notice partly Naruto "haters" here and I can't understand this because it's contradicting.

Peace

After 3 chapters of build up Kabuto is now gonna give his sob story. That means Kabuto is gonna lose, its always like that. Sob Story -> Lose.
But nothing has happened its just been like this
-Jutsu
-susanoo
-talk
-jutsu
-susanoo
-flashback
-jutsu
-susanoo
-sob story

literally, NOTHING has been happening so far, and thats why im getting annoyed by the manga recently. I dont get mad at single chapters cuz its all part of the whole volume, so when read as a whole in the volume, one ch. of talking is nothing, its just like reading a book and one chapter is spent on talking. But 3 chapters of nothingness, then throw in the signature "feel bad for this guy cuz he's gonna lose" type flashback.

The worst part is Kabuto was my fav war villain cuz he wasnt some ******* thats been hacked with rinnegan and sharingan like the 8 other villains
 

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Re: people need to clam dowm

You usually talk nonsense, but for once i agree with you.
:rolleyes:
works for me!

Although the audience you're trying to reach with this thread will not read your full post - they'll just spew some gibberish about how ninja A or ninja B is better because they know Kishi or something ... just saying ...
Oh yeah, so true...if people read this sentence the discussion wouldn't have driven into being grateful that manga is for free..in this case I have to quote myself:
Seriously, people you can decide what you like and in what extent.
 
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