People in part1 that can defeat 5g Lee in straight up Taijutsu?

[Jinrou]

That fine. I'm finding it hard to imagine kakashi outperforming lee. Reason i made the thread to get some opinions. I take it you think lee would beat Gai?

At all.. My opinion is all the Jonin in that room defeat Lee xD I feel you're thinking of the movements where Lee seems to vanish from thin air applied to everyone in that room but i don't think that was the case. The vanishing thing only appeared like that to the Genin and we even see Gai following him up until the 5th gate.

If it was something Jonin would have trouble with, i think it would have been highlighted by one of them. You wouldn't think Gekko Hayate would be that fast but he alongside the other Jonin stopping Neji before he killed Hinata and Neji being surprised suggests even he could blitz Neji no?

This is where King Of Pop's quote comes in for me.

 

[neosmith500]

At all.. My opinion is all the Jonin in that room defeat Lee xD I feel you're thinking of the movements where Lee seems to vanish from thin air applied to everyone in that room but i don't think that was the case. The vanishing thing only appeared like that to the Genin and we even see Gai following him up until the 5th gate.

If it was something Jonin would have trouble with, i think it would have been highlighted by one of them. You wouldn't think Gekko Hayate would be that fast but he alongside the other Jonin stopping Neji before he killed Hinata and Neji being surprised suggests even he could blitz Neji no?

This is where King Of Pop's quote comes in for me.

Bold. Thats not wat i'm thinking. Nobody can use the way something is drawn to compare speed to another drawing. I just wanted to know where 5th Gated lee's speed ranks from genin level to jonin. Seeing as base lee had chunin level speed. Maybe it's just me and my own imagination but i also cant see kurenai outperforming 5g lee with ntn but her taijutsu but thats just me.

 

[Jinrou]

Bold. Thats not wat i'm thinking. Nobody can use the way something is drawn to compare speed to another drawing. I just wanted to know where 5th Gated lee's speed ranks from genin level to jonin. Seeing as base lee had chunin level speed. Maybe it's just me and my own imagination but i also cant see kurenai outperforming 5g lee with ntn but her taijutsu but thats just me.

Haha i understand.. I used to think like that and the same thought process used to make me think p1 5G Lee could take on characters in p2. Where was it said he has Chunin level speed btw?

 

[neosmith500]

Haha i understand.. I used to think like that and the same thought process used to make me think p1 5G Lee could take on characters in p2. Where was it said he has Chunin level speed btw?

Lets say Haku's speed is genin level and wave arc sasuke's speed is somewhere above that but still at genin level. Lets say mid/low while haku was low. Add weighted Lee to the mix and he should have high genin level speed , above wave arc sasuke's mid/low. Add the 1st gate on top of that and weighted lee should either be low chunin in speed or higher. Now remove lee's weights and he should surely be chunin level in speed especially since sasuke was only noted as chunin level after gaining lee's base speed. Now add the 1st Gate on top of that , then the 3rd , 4th and later 5th.

This is why i made the thread to rank lee's speed.

 

[Jinrou]

Lets say Haku's speed is genin level and wave arc sasuke's speed is somewhere above that but still at genin level. Lets say mid/low while haku was low. Add weighted Lee to the mix and he should have high genin level speed , above wave arc sasuke's mid/low. Add the 1st gate on top of that and weighted lee should either be low chunin in speed or higher. Now remove lee's weights and he should surely be chunin level in speed especially since sasuke was only noted as chunin level after gaining lee's base speed. Now add the 1st Gate on top of that , then the 3rd , 4th and later 5th.

This is why i made the thread to rank lee's speed.

Good method but i'm just not sure it can be used. Do you recollect the chapter where it was said the speed was Chunin level?

 

[neosmith500]

Good method but i'm just not sure it can be used. Do you recollect the chapter where it was said the speed was Chunin level?

Agreed . Just thought it was interesting.

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Him being at chunin level means that he operates on that level , physically.

 

[Jinrou]

Agreed . Just thought it was interesting.

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Him being at chunin level means that he operates on that level , physically.

Oh awesome. But can we really take it like that though seeing as Shikamaru was literally Chunin after this but he most definitely doesn't operate on the same physical wavelength as Sauce? Could have been the ability to wield an A rank tech he was referring to?