People has less hate on Kaguya now???

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I love when people say Kishi was "forced."

As if Shounen would drop one of the most successful mangas in the last decade because the writer didn't follow their time frame.

Let's be honest, Kishi could have done anything he wanted, but he was a coward.
Kishi is willing to waste more useless panel time on Obito Flashback instead stuff that actually matter like learning more behind sage of 6th path when it could've been built up but no.
 

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I love when people say Kishi was "forced."

As if Shounen would drop one of the most successful mangas in the last decade because the writer didn't follow their time frame.

Let's be honest, Kishi could have done anything he wanted, but he was a coward.
The ending being better wouldn't have changed the series or made it look better in general, from the way you said this it sounded like the ending is what made the series look bad to you, and while I subjectively disagree with that, I'm just saying that kaguya's character would have been worked on more and madara's defeat would have been bit more realistic thus making the vote battle more enjoyable. Also, dropping the manga isn't always the most probable outcome.
 

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Kaguya doesn't deserve the hate and the downplaying. People don't realize that Kishi was told to rush thanks shounen retarded Jump, and honestly, I'm getting sick and tired of shit arguments that tend to spread into the base like "oh kaguya was overpowered but she was also stupid" Plot restriction usually tends to limit the villains's overall performance as a fighter and as a character as well, but then again this is NB so I'mma just keep saying "cool story"
Yes the manga was rushed because of Shonen Jump but if he removed all the unnecessary flashbacks and changed the pace of some things then Kaguya could have been decent.
 

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Don't try to stress too much about it, since these people aren't worth the trouble due to refusing to read the words of the manga author himself and coming to their silly misinterpretations.

It is a hopeless case.
 

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I love when people say Kishi was "forced."

As if Shounen would drop one of the most successful mangas in the last decade because the writer didn't follow their time frame.

Let's be honest, Kishi could have done anything he wanted, but he was a coward.
Well, the truth has been spoken.
It's Kishis fault that he ruined the manga, nothing more, nothing less.
 

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Don't try to stress too much about it, since these people aren't worth the trouble due to refusing to read the words of the manga author himself and coming to their silly misinterpretations.

It is a hopeless case.
Are you upset that Toneri had as much manga screen time as an ostrich?

The only thing worse than a man who will never stop debating a terrible opinion, is a man who refuses to hear any opinions.
 

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Kishi is willing to waste more useless panel time on Obito Flashback instead stuff that actually matter like learning more behind sage of 6th path when it could've been built up but no.
So true! Remove Rin flashbacks and other unecessary flashbacks and then you have so much panel to explain things. It's just that simple.
 

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Are you upset that Toneri had as much manga screen time as an ostrich?

The only thing worse than a man who will never stop debating a terrible opinion, is a man who refuses to hear any opinions.
It's not that I am afraid to give my honest opinion on something, but when it comes to bullshit topics where certain hypocrites won't probably listen to a word I say anyways, it is not worth the personal effort.
 

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It's not that I am afraid to give my honest opinion on something, but when it comes to bullshit topics where certain hypocrites won't probably listen to a word I say anyways, it is not worth the personal effort.
Are you calling me a hypocrite who doesn't listen to opinions while you yourself refuse to state your opinion to hear?

That's interesting.
 

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So true! Remove Rin flashbacks and other unecessary flashbacks and then you have so much panel to explain things. It's just that simple.
The Anime could have the opportunity to extend on Kaguya fights as well as more indepth on backstory but as of right now SP is shredding my hopes for the anime, knowing next final season will probably take up half of these trash fillers based on dreamworld arc when we just had these dreadful fillers for 5 months, I don't see they're doing anymore filler padding on kaguya or naruto vs sasuke especially they didn't put any efforts on Gai vs Madara fight.
 

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So true! Remove Rin flashbacks and other unecessary flashbacks and then you have so much panel to explain things. It's just that simple.
no need to remove if he just put in the effort and had better planning. i knew when hago said 'where my mother came from isnt important' that it wouldnt be good for kaguya and ootsusuki. at least bz couldve mentioned having allies like momo or ootsusuki on the moon but no
 

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People didn't hate on Kaguya. People hated how rushed her arc was and how Kishimoto had to restrict her to the point, where it became ridiculous.
 

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Are you calling me a hypocrite who doesn't listen to opinions while you yourself refuse to state your opinion to hear?

That's interesting.
Why should I, in the past about a year back when I was brutally stating the obvious in terms of The Last being canon and listed as "Chapter 699.5" by Kishimoto I would always receive replies such as "Lolollderp you're filler!". I essentially gave up in trying to come to reasoning in this particular sub-forum.
 

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Why should I, in the past about a year back when I was brutally stating the obvious in terms of The Last being canon and listed as "Chapter 699.5" by Kishimoto I would always receive replies such as "Lolollderp you're filler!". I essentially gave up in trying to come to reasoning in this particular sub-forum.
That's the most hypocritical thing I've heard in a while. But you do you, man.
 

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People didn't hate on Kaguya. People hated how rushed her arc was and how Kishimoto had to restrict her to the point, where it became ridiculous.
These reason are the same people who slanders her name and so many loves to use madara as a comparison to make kaguya look "shit"

I like kaguya
Surprised despite you're madara fan
 
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