Peaceful Approach

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Cleary Sasuke has issues with it, along with trust. He wants to do things on his own, his way what he perceives to be the right way. That's just how it is. He isn't going to ask for help when he believes himself to be fully capable of doing it and others inept at doing so.

That is called being selfish, do you not agree that if they both put their egos aside they can pull this off?

its the dream of other saviour to become hokage of leaf aka a kage dat created the current system

They both stated they wanted to be Hokage, that is just basically a title.

 

[Trúth]

That is called being selfish, do you not agree that if they both put their egos aside they can pull this off?



They both stated they wanted to be Hokage, that is just basically a title.

I don't agree. They have never agreed on anything. It would be worse than Hiruzen and Danzo.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

When have Peaceful negotiations ever worked? Is the Uchiha Massacre not a perfect example to Sasuke of the failures of negotiation?

No, it's more or less an example of what happens when people don't even really try to reach an agreement.

 

[BLAZE]

They both stated they wanted to be Hokage, that is just basically a title.

as hogoromo asked sasuke what he exactly mean by hokage
What Sasuke wants to do is something brutal to end a brutal system and naruto is not going to agree

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

I don't agree. They have never agreed on anything. It would be worse than Hiruzen and Danzo.

It would if they put egos away, if they can't do that for the sake of the world, then none of them deserve to have goals that great.

 

[BLAZE]

It would if they put egos away, if they can't do that for the sake of the world, then none of them deserve to have goals that great.

then lets wait for the conclusion

 

[Trúth]

No, it's more or less an example of what happens when people don't even really try to reach an agreement.

Yeah alright:|

It would if they put egos away, if they can't do that for the sake of the world, then none of them deserve to have goals that great.

That is your opinion.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

I just made a completely logical approach to peace and yet the only reason this won't work is because Sasuke likes goals that involve killing along the way. If they both want peace in the end then there is no logical reason to object.

Yeah alright:|

That is your opinion.

This can't even be denied, I would hardly call it an opinion.

 

[Sound]

I completely agree, I am just showing how flawed his plan is.

A conflict was needed for the final Fight.

The problem is that Sasuke's plan makes himself and people who support it [his fans] look like Sociopaths.​

 

[GhostProject]

Because Sasuke wants control Lol

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

A conflict was needed for the final Fight.

The problem is that Sasuke's plan makes himself and people who support it [his fans] look like Sociopaths.​

Exactly, Sasuke only wants change as long as destruction is involved. It's sickening to think real people would agree with him.

 

[Scumbag]

If and I do mean IF Sasuke survives then he needs to be locked up in jail. People can still visit him but what kind of message would it send if he got off scott free?

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

If and I do mean IF Sasuke survives then he needs to be locked up in jail. People can still visit him but what kind of message would it send if he got off scott free?

If Kishi keeps the theme of the manga, he won't die.

 

[Trúth]

I just made a completely logical approach to peace and yet the only reason this won't work is because Sasuke likes goals that involve killing along the way. If they both want peace in the end then there is no logical reason to object.


This can't even be denied, I would hardly call it an opinion.

Lol That's because it's your opinion. Of course you believe it, but it simply is not fact that they don't deserve to have "dreams that big"

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Lol That's because it's your opinion. Of course you believe it, but it simply is not fact that they don't deserve to have "dreams that big"

Okay, but if one can't put their ego away, for the sake of the world, it does in fact mean they aren't truly looking for peace. This plan will work for Sasuke assuming he knows what the new system should be like while avoiding bloodshed.

 

[Trúth]

Okay, but if one can't put their ego away, for the sake of the world, it does in fact mean they aren't truly looking for peace. This plan will work for Sasuke assuming he knows what the new system should be like while avoiding bloodshed.

It's not a problem of ego. He wants to do this himself not only because of his doubt in anyone else's ability to do so, but it is also a sort of payback in a way. Itachi suffered his entire life for Sasuke and he wants to right that wrong. This is his chance. He doesn't want anyone helping, this is a testament to his brother.

 

[Migster257]

Lol That's because it's your opinion. Of course you believe it, but it simply is not fact that they don't deserve to have "dreams that big"

It's funny because you support the Uchiha bros through everything, yet you seem to have a double personality. Itachi would not agree with Sasuke's plan, at all. So, I'd like to know, do you believe what Sasuke is doing is, in your opinion, right? Do you simply like Itachi for his character, but don't follow his beliefs?

I'd just like to know who's thought process you prefer.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

It's not a problem of ego. He wants to do this himself not only because of his doubt in anyone else's ability to do so, but it is also a sort of payback in a way. Itachi suffered his entire life for Sasuke and he wants to right that wrong. This is his chance. He doesn't want anyone helping, this is a testament to his brother.

His brother who admitted he was wrong in trying to do everything on his own?

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

It's not a problem of ego. He wants to do this himself not only because of his doubt in anyone else's ability to do so, but it is also a sort of payback in a way. Itachi suffered his entire life for Sasuke and he wants to right that wrong. This is his chance. He doesn't want anyone helping, this is a testament to his brother.

So he doesn't want peace? He wants to say f*ck you for screwing with my brother, world? My way is much more logical then his. If someone (let's say Kakashi) presented him this idea, and he rejected it, not because it wouldn't do the job (because it is essentially Sasuke's idea but saves innocent lives, and doesn't run on fear), just because he doesn't get to punish anyone, he'd be selfish, and it would show he's not looking for peace in the end.

 

[Trúth]

It's funny because you support the Uchiha bros through everything, yet you seem to have a double personality. Itachi would not agree with Sasuke's plan, at all. So, I'd like to know, do you believe what Sasuke is doing is, in your opinion, right? Do you simply like Itachi for his character, but don't follow his beliefs?

I'd just like to know who's thought process you prefer.

It's very simple. I love Itachi for everything beliefs, personality etc. However I also understand where sasuke is coming from. Itachi may not have agreed with sasuke's plan and neither do I completely, however I can see where Sasuke's points and where he is coming from.

His brother who admitted he was wrong in trying to do everything on his own?

That's the same one Lol.

So he doesn't want peace? He wants to say f*ck you for screwing with my brother, world? My way is much more logical then then his. If someone (let's say Kakashi) presented him this idea, and he rejected it, not because it wouldn't do the job (because it is essentially Sasuke's idea but saves innocent lives, and doesn't run on fear), just because he doesn't get to punish anyone, he'd be selfish, and it would show he's not looking for peace in the end.

I never said that at all. I only explained that there was more into this than you were taking into account. I don't agree with Sasuke completely. Killing the Kage is unnecessary. They only need to be replaced with new hand picked ones placed in there steads. The bijuu however need to stay sealed away.