Part 2 Neji vs Hebi Sasuke

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none of this provides lee a counter to chidori sword or nagashi
Didn't know we were talking about lee vs sasuke here
Nagashi won't be used in a fast moving cqc battle against lee who is superior to Itachi in taijutsu..sasuke didn't have time to do the same against Itachi..chidori sword isn't hitting lee

I need to see more feats to make a very good argument for lee tbh..I'm patiently waiting
 

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Didn't know we were talking about lee vs sasuke here
Nagashi won't be used in a fast moving cqc battle against lee who is superior to Itachi in taijutsu..sasuke didn't have time to do the same against Itachi..chidori sword isn't hitting lee

I need to see more feats to make a very good argument for lee tbh..I'm patiently waiting
well the neji fans are getting roasted, so its only natural to get bored and change the subject. we can go back to neji vs sasuke. Sasuke wins mid diff
 

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7 pages for a speedblitz? Smh.
 

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It is said that vacuum palm targets the vitals and that tend to do a great deal of damage even against the most durable of enemies. However, Kisame tanked it with ease and the only thing that happened to him was that he was pushed back so Kisame being more durable than Sasuke wouldn't really matter. As for getting pushed back by vacuum palm, you do realize with snakes coming out of his arms right?


@Bold, the vacuum palm isn't fast because of their hand speed but because the chakra within the palms of the user is compressed and then suddenly released. Not to mention that once vacuum palm is released, the attack is no longer useful whereas if Sasuke uses chidori sharp spear, he can still move it around and control. Hence Sasuke has the edge in close to mid range combat because his mid ranged move is continuous unlike Neji's. Also vacuum palm is a direct precise attack with no area of effect, due to Sasuke being a very fast fighter, it is going to be hard for Neji to accurately aim it directly at Sasuke, especially his vitals. Kisame was up against four opponents, he is slower than Sasuke and has worse reactions so Neji being able to hit Kisame doesn't mean he can do the same to Sasuke.

Alrighty then, Sasuke doesn't need to predict chakra but he can still read Neji's hand movements to some extent, better than most shinobi anyway. Furthermore, you keep on talking about vacuum palm hitting Sasuke but if Neji decides to go on the offensive with vacuum palm, can't Sasuke simply chidori sharp spear him? Pretty sure chidori sharp spear is more dangerous as it is more lethal, can be swung around and maintained for an extended period of time unlike vacuum palm.

a) Hebi Sasuke is leagues above Taka Sasuke in speed, intelligence and endurance. Furthermore, a serious Bee destroys Neji too so what is your point? Sasuke saying they have to fight to kill doesn't mean he'd start using attacks that could instantly kill Bee unless he was placed in a dire position.

b) Going by your logic, pretty sure Kabuto also fled from Tsunade but I keep on seeing Tsunade being underrated because she couldn't land a hit on part one Kabuto. Itachi was forced to flee because he couldn't parry Bee nor could he overpower him but he did avoid his hits. Anyway since Sasuke is faster than Neji, he could also "flee", look for an opening and go in for the kill.

c) Sure Neji can evade chidori sharp spear. My point was that Neji has to come within arm's length to finish Sasuke off with 8 trigrams 64 palms but that Sasuke can simply use chidori sharp spear to finish him off before Neji can finish Sasuke off. If Neji decides to retreat from Sasuke's range to dodge chidori sharp spear, Sasuke shunshins and uses it on him.

You should reread what happened since Naruto's punch managed to do a against Neji due to not being able to rotate in time. On the other hand, by spinning around, Neji and Hiashi managed to repel the Juubi's hand due to actually using rotation. This goes to show and should be obvious, that a mere chakra cloak has vastly inferior defensive capabilities than a fully functioning rotation. Especially since this cloak of chakra is than when the user . So not only does it take time to begin a full rotation, the prerequisite to rotation, the " ", doesn't have the spinning momentum which means there is no repulsive force hence why it is no where near a good of a defence as a full body rotation.



I know Neji can easily defend from chidori nagashi. Did you ignore what I posted? My point was that if for whatever reason, Sasuke couldn't move out of the way in time, chidori nagashi is an option to keep Neji from getting close, he'd no doubt sense the attack and stop charging at Sasuke, possibly even retreating, or possibly use rotation. I know that Hyuugas spin extremely fast while using rotation, but it takes time to start using rotation and speeding up their spinning capability. It is an ultimate defence even surpassing Gaara's only because of the spin and range. It ain't defending against chidori sharp spear in its infant stages before the spin and when the chakra layer is thin.

Looks like you didn't understand my previous post. In your previous post, you talked about how strong of an offence full body blow is but it is only an offence if Sasuke is right next to Neji but he can fight from a few metres away so he isn't getting hit by it unlike the Zetsu clone that was already on Neji to begin with. BTW didn't that Zetsu clone later on survive and gain Neji's DNA to transform into Neji himself? So that Zetsu clone wasn't even killed, SMH. Nevermind that, the same Zetsu clone that managed to pull a fast one on Neji couldn't even Sakura yet you overrate the hell out of Neji and underrate the hell out of current Yin Seal Sakura who is much stronger than the Sakura that fodderized that Zetsu clone no difficulty. So much for Neji's 360 vision which didn't allow him to counter an assault from a mere fodder Zetsu clone.

Sharingan sees chakra, so it will see chakra build up. If I can see ants with my own eyes, than I can see a buildup of ants in an ant hill. Simple logic using deductive reasoning which you seem to lack. You're now using Shelke's logic who claimed SM Naruto can't sense amaterasu's prep because no sage mode user had feats of detecting amaterasu's prep. I agree it can't see the chakra network but right before Neji releases the chakra from his body, Sasuke will see it linger in the many pores exposed to the air in Neji's body.

That isn't the point. I know Neji won't get blindsided by Sasuke but we all know full well that Sasuke is the faster shinobi. Them having the same speed score in the databook means they are around the same level but Sasuke is no doubt the faster one. Databook has a very inaccurate scale because it doesn't have many number options, so a lot of shinobi with differing speeds are put on the same level.

Anyway my point in using snake summoning was to show that while Neji attacks the snake summon, he can't defend himself from Sasuke's blitz. If he does do that, he ends up not attacking the snake summon since Neji can't simultaneously attack the snake summon while dodging or blocking Sasuke. In other words, Neji can't deal with Sasuke's summons without dealing with Sasuke himself. If Neji decides to focus on taking Sasuke, he'll also have to worry about the snake summon being on the loose.

Face it bro! Neji gets overwhelmed mid difficulty at most!



I'll post this again, now reread what I said and try to comprehend it fully:
Rotation's Weakness
Rotation is a powerful defence and I'm not going to argue whether or not Sasuke can breach it but it does have two key weaknesses. The first weakness is the fact that when the user is stationary, it takes time to start rotating. : Naruto managed to land a punch on Neji before he started spinning but the chakra emitting from Neji's skin managed to block Naruto's weak punch. Sasuke is incredibly fast and thus he'll manage to reach Neji before he can start spinning. Without the momentum from Neji's spin, Sasuke's chidori sharp spear will slice through the chakra surrounding Neji's body because majority of rotation's defence comes from the torque from the rotation which pushes out and repels attacks continuously as attacks try but inevitably fail to get through this powerful deflective force. This is because the speed at which the user rotates is immense and can change the trajectory of focussed precision based attacks. However since Sasuke is faster than base Naruto, he can attack Neji before he starts spinning. Basically that rotation is a two part process and my premise is that the first part of the rotation won't be a strong enough defence against Sasuke's raiton. Another weakness of rotation is that the user is stationary and can't go on the offensive while using it. Thus the user has to end the rotation which gives Sasuke the opportunity to finish Neji off with his superior range before Neji can get in range.

Basically Neji was against Naruto hence he wasn't able to dispel the force from Naruto's punch completely which is why he .

Completing a full rotation becomes even more difficult when the user is on the move since they first have to stop before initiating the process. For example, when Neji sacrificed himself to save Hinata, he didn't bother rotating or even using vacuum palm because it . This means that if Neji tries to charge his way towards Sasuke, he is dead meat.

Ill Just reply to what you really replied to, and get straight to the key points.

1. Kisame also Tanked Hirudora from 7th Gate guy with out dieing.. Please do not compare his stamina and endurance to anything sasuke related. Fact; Kisame was blasted and he weights 183 compared to sauske 115 (keep that in mind), while kisame was able to grab Samahadra. One of two things could have happned; 1. Sama healed him, 2. Sama absorbed most the chakra neji sent his way. Either way Sasuke has none of the listed feats. And his Insides will be blasted once hit since you cannot train your insides.

2. "ultra high speed"- Kishi... As in beyond Normal speed. The fact that Kisame was hit the moment Neji's arm was fully thrust is more then enough proof. Then the power and speed behind the attack to send a heavy ninja like ksame flying is amazing. Kisame weights more then sasuke and any fire or lighting attack he might attempt. Basically He can blast him for attack or defense.

3. You are overatting the fuq out of the Chidori spear it is sad!!!!!!!!

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There is a two part process to the attack;
A. Charge chakra into the hand for a "lightning hand"
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B. Aim his arm, then release the point;

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The two part process isn't instant is will be seen through the moment he molds chakra (you need to mold chakra before using all ninjutsu btw). It is weaker then Chidori (fact) and is predictable to a byakugan user. It isn't faster then a hyuga can expell from there body especially when they have the heads up on what you are attempting.

Remember, anything Chakra related is seen before it happens since any and all chakra has to first travel your chakra network to be used! Fact!


Speed Factor!

You overrate and misunderstand Sasuke's speed and know nothing on neji's speed.

Sasukes Speed:
To first learn about sasuke's speed "Blitz" I first i to teach you the mechanics Behind the Body flicker.

Body Flicker Technique (瞬身の術, Shunshin no Jutsu) Ninjutsu, D-rank, Supplementary Users: Gaara, Hatake Kakashi, et al A movement technique with extreme speed like a gust of wind!! Appearing along with the wind, disappearing like the wind: the ninja's instantaneous movement technique. This super fast movement is almost impossible to grasp with the naked eye. If seen by an ordinary person, it would seem as if the user has teleported... In reality, the user has vitalized his body with chakra and moved at super speeds. The amount of chakra used up differs depending on the distance and elevation of their stopping point in comparison to the starting point. The cloud of sand dances in the wind [picture of Gaara using the Body Flicker] [picture of Haku using the Body Flicker] [picture of Kakashi using the Body Flicker] ↑→Haku's and Kakashi's Body Flicker. Dancing leaves and disappearing in an instant like mist. There are many variations of the "Body Flicker" for the various villages and user. Gaara's use includes the "Sand Body Flicker"*. There are also the "Mist Body Flicker"**, "Water Body Flicker"***, and "Leaf Body Flicker"****, among many others. *Sand Body Flicker (砂瞬身, Suna Shunshin) **Mist Body Flicker" (霧瞬身, Kiri Shunshin) ***Water Body Flicker" (水瞬身, Mizu Shunshin) ****"Leaf Body Flicker" (木ノ葉瞬身, Konoha Shunshin)

They use Chakra to "blitz" what you and most call it. Sasuke does not Shunshin all the time, fact! Sasuke cannot shunshin all the time, fact! I'l list and show a shit load of times of sasuke not shunshin when his life depends on it or in a battle period!

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Sasuke had a Bomb heading towards him... Why didn't he "Blitz" out the way or use his god like speed but was instead caught????? Next!

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Again with CM2 he couldn't "blitz" out the way... I'm not done!!!!

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Why did Dairu's Eyes manage to see and stop Sasuke's "Amazing Blitz" and even counter attack???

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Why wasn't Sasuke able to "Blitz" out the way but Suigetsu was able to intercept and protect sasuke from would be death???


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Why didn't sasuke Blitz and cut her head off??? Why did he get hit by her slow ass attack????

Do you want me to keep going on and on and on??????? I can do this for every so called "Blitz instantly" ninja the users of this site say. Minato/Tobirama/Kakashi/itachi they all have the same thing in common. But This si about Sasuke's speed so i'll keep it about him.

If you haven't figured it out yet based on manga facts (I have more btw), sasuke cannot use his "God like speed' every time and anytime. It has to be pre-determined since it is a ninjutsu, and like all ninjutsu it isn't instant! If sasuke could have dodged and "blitz" in all the scans i posted he would have! Period! End of discussion! Shunshin is not used in close combat and in most cases combat period! Sasuke is not a speed demon 24/7 like the Raikages with their spl ninjutsu. Naruto who is faster in KCM does not use his super god like speed (since sasuke has god like speed, Naruto's must be super god like) in combat all the time because it isn't something that can be spammed. Same with the fastest ninja Minato. I can go on and break down Speed further if you still do not get the facts i'm showing with in the manga!

SO please chill out with the false notion sasuke can use his shunshin any and all times. smh

Neji's Speed:

Although Neji doesn't have screen time, he has displayed 2 crazy speed feats.

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Dodging an super fast arrow from point blank range while preforming Full body blow, Somehow jumping on the arrow being shot, run on top of it, then be in front of Kido in under a second from about 10 meters away. You literally did not see the process on how neji got in front of him once he was on the move, kishi on showed his foot steps on kido's wed rope!

2. I'll have to break this section down since only the precise users would get the math and distance with out me breaking it down in sections.

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Right here is how far and where neji with 2 deadly holes in his body is.

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This is where Kido is and who barely started to fall from being affected by the Gental fist chakra.

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This is how far the 2 are from each other plus even more distance since Kido maru had to stay out side of Neji's 50 Meter range.


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Right here is where neji instantly Blitz through trees and having 2 life threatning holes in his body Blitz Kido maru while he was still in the air barely falling!!!!!!!!!!!! Now do the math on everything I listed...

Neji instantly Blitz 55+ meters in mere seconds and what appeared to be about 2-4 seconds tops!!!!!!!!!! This is an insane speed feat!!!! Imagine him healthy with know holes in his body the size of base balls! Imagine Part 2 Neji! Oh wait I'll list a speed feat from Part 2 neji!

3. At the last second from a super fast pinpoint Multiple Juubi wood stakes strike.. Last second....

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HE intercepted the attack to save Hinata and Neji!!!!!!!!!!! No where to be seen yet he saved them two! Amazing!

So please drop the speed argument as if Sasuke is equal to Minato/Tobirama/KCM Naruto etc etc. Only Lightning release Body flicker users can spam the Body flicker (and maybe Shisu). Next! And links on Taka sasuke being slower then Hebi even though the two are the same (expect one is with CM and one is with out). Link on anything in the manga to show this out of no where claim please?????? And a link stating Sasuke became dumber please!!!!


The true Mechanics Behind Rotation:

You seem to be ill-informed on how Rotation works. But since we both agree it is unstoppable to an extent while spinning I'll just tell you where you are wrong.

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As you can see above the daggers were mere inches away.

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Then in a single motion he instantly rotated! No difficulty with the Daggers literally an inch or less away! Chakra was instant, spinning happened in a second, Spinning Hyper fast was after with the Rotation in full affect! What happened with naruto was like i stated, he was in shock naruto was so powerful from no where. They were literally talking and Naruto didn't even Blitz. When naruto did blitz neji matched his speed. He was just surprised the amount of power Naruto had. Simple. He made a Chakra shield to stop Kyubi powered Naruto (who is a power house even with no tails).

Unless you can stop a Hyuga from moving their feet, rotation will happen in under a second no diff!

In the "exhibit A" link, that was Neji showing off and being cocky. He allowed naruto to attempt to hit him. Plus the fact that is the Gennin Neji makes it that much useless since that neji was cocky and allowed Naruto to live and kept telling him to stay down because he had nothing personal with naruto. Next!

To think the weaker Chidori Spear would Get through his Chakra armor is Ridiculous!!! in under a second that right there kills the entire post. But I'll just speak on the armor;

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First off Gentle Fist works like explained above. Anything that uses Chakra is destroyed by chakra! They use Chakra to invade other chakras thus destroying it! And just in case you question whether Full body blow/Vacuum palm/Rotation/64 Divinity are Gentlr fist still? Here you go so you don't waist your time bro:


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Now in case you or any other user still haven't figured it out; Anything that has chakra (all 5 elemental natures, Chakra swords etc etc) can get blocked By the Gentle fist style. They use chakra to counter chakra.

Now your next argument would be, "But naruto beat it". Incorrect yet again! Naruto didn't user Pure chakra (Lightning spear in sasuke case) to explode with neji. He used Speed+Force+Power of the Nine tailed fox in his Physical Punch to attack neji. And that my friend is nothing like a pure lightning chakra sasuke will use (Chidori spear). So in short nothing short of A hand to hand original Chidori (not spear) will be useless the entire fight! They counter Ninjutsu perfectly, that's why they don't need it!

Example:

Water is heavier plus thicker then pure lighting since lightning is electricity etc etc. And neji with the Gentle fist destroyed Water prison as if it was paper:

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Databook 1 - Suirou No Jutsu:
NINJUTSU; Suiton: Suirou no jutsu (Water Release: Water Prison technique)
User: Momochi Zabuza
Supplementary; Close range; Rank: C

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A spherical prison created out of water. Destroying this jutsu from the inside is nearly impossible. However, it's indispensable for the caster to be in contact with part of the cell for it to maintain its shape, so if they take their hand away, the jutsu will be dispelled immediately. This jutsu shows its true might not when one is alone, but when many allies are present.

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-The water prison nobody escapes from!!

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-Because of the nature of this jutsu, things can get a little difficult if one is attacked by a third party.

And just in case you wanna know how thick and hard to disperse or penetrate the prison is:

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If Gentle fist can make pressured water look like nothing, I imagine Lightning with no physical shape will have no effects! Simple Logic. I can go into further details if you still do not get it..


So basically The chakra armor will not be beaten by Fire/water/wind/Lighting (earth is physical and is a different matter) easily. Especially since the spear doesn't have any force behind it since lightning isn't physical. I can further break it down if need be.

Then we have the myth that they are sitting ducks after spinng... haha.. cute!

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This my friend.. I call this the BYAKUGAN EFFECT! This is when the user see's everything as if time has stopped in real time in the immediate area of range (50 meters). Anything short of instant speed will not over come the "Byakugan Effect". And as you can see they can counter accordingly at the last second (thus you having to be close to instant speed to surprise/over come their eyes!). And with Chakra alone they can attack or defend. And you will never see it coming since it is a fact the sharingan does not and cannot predict Chakra. They only can see the color and nothing else, fact!

And FYI, the reason he didn't use Rotation is because the only way to save them was to get in the way. That is why Hinata did the same thing neji did (just brace your self).

The strategies you have in place basically will harm sasuke. He isn't getting past the chakra shield. He isn't out speeding Rotation. He isn't surprise attacking him after rotation. He isn't going to surprise neji With a shunshin since you have to use chakra in your feet to utilize it. Neji has amazing reactions to counter any and every thing sasuke has shown. Sasuke in a million years will not see a Full body blow coming (unless you can link me anything close to seeing chakra build up with the sharingan) etc etc.

Any form of Close combat Neji wins every time. The weak Fire and lightning jutsu are countered with Gentle fist. This doesn't sound like "Mid diff at most" to me bro.

And The snake plus sasuke combo argument is useless because he has Full body blow (which is similar to Shinra tensei being 360 degrees), and Rotation. Plus he has 2 hands he can expel chakra from to use Vacuum palm, one facing the snake other sasuke. I have way too many ways of countering that strategy it's sad.



The Sakura and Tsunade post's:

Neji shits on Sakura, She can never beat him. Get over it. Neji was going against an army of zetsu clones who can use mayflower to sneak attack you. What is your point again? He got caught but blew the zetsu up. You seem to fail at knowing that the zetsu's are all connected. You seem to think the 50,000 Zetsu's that died and collected the armies chakra lived. lol If that was the case they would still be at 100,000. The dead zetsu's merely collected the shinobies chakra's before they died simple. That is why the alive zetsu's were able to change etc etc. If you do not get what happened i can explain this seperate and simpler if need be.

Kabuto was smart not to take a hit from Her, what is your point? She and sakura have predictable fighting styles, no techniques just brawlers.​
 

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Damn..I'm guessing it's cuz of that 7 sword dance

And bro I wouldn't listen to anything Shlke states. He is the biggest sasuke tip ryder on this site. Mifune never used Quick draw on Sasuke, right there he is trying to make you think Sasuke is better with swords. But sasuke really sucks and relies heavily on his eyes, not skills. Mifune>>>Sasuke in kenjutsu and mifune has little to no screen time.
 

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to hurt sasuke's organs, neji would need to touch them. Sasuke can easily overpower neji, keeping him at a distance

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sasuke also fights with a sword. Neji wouldn't even make contact with sasuke's body without over powering him like killer bee did.

I love how you down play the precog of the sharingan, while wanking the precog of the byakugan.

the reason sasuke couldn't react to the chakra of the kyuubi, is because it didn't move like regular chakra. it moved like it was alive. Don't for a second think neji can duplicate this

sasuke would see neki emitting chakra everytime he does. Sasuke would see the movement of chakra to know every time neji was about to use a full body chakra attack, or just out of a palm.

You think neji sensing sasuke's moves would mean anything? unless neji moves or emitts chakra, the sharingan would just see his move before he makes it and allow a counter.
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sasuke predicting and reacting to the sword has everything to do with not being 100 percent, what an idiotic comment. Neji has nothing fast enough to best sasuke's eyes, and has no speed feats putting him on the level of sasuke.

funny how you think blocking the attack of part 1 naruto is gonna be able to stop chidori. the fight ends there but I move on

you say neji will counter nagashi by overpowering it with rotation. neji has to emit chaka and spin in the time it takes sasuke to emit chakra, not happening. Its not like sasuke would just be hit by the rotation, he can move while using chidori and can see the build up.

Unlike frog kata, sasuke can fully see this use of chakra and would counter. seriously you underestimate the sharingan.

I can make the same argument. Everytime neji tries to dodge a chidori sword, sasuke just sees the counter and extends the length of the attack gg.

this snake summon gives sasuke even more advantage in close combat

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this snake attacking while sasuke attacks, neji would probably dodge the snake, but sasuke would see this and attack where he was going. no manda.

sasuke wins easily unless you can show me how neji even touches sasuke. sasuke sees the " frog kata" and dodges. Overall it comes down to sasuke's range is greater than neji's and they are basically equals in CQC. sasuke mid diff

I'm Bored so i'll counter this post just for fun.

1. You do not seem to get that out side damage means nothing! I don't care if he Tanked a punch from the Raikage! Gental fist doesn't equate to physical damage to the out side. If sasuke attempts to block a Vacuum palm his body (what ever part) will be damaged 100%! No disputing since one cannot train their insides.

2. Killer bee cannot attack the insides so why do you keep bringing up physical/external damage? He couldn't even tank his own chidori internally, what makes you think he will tank pin point precise strikes?

3. And incorrect yet again! The reason why sasuke could not predict naruto's chakra was because he couldn't predict the speed/power/timing etc etc. I literally posted a picture of Naruto standing in one spot, cocking back his arm, then ! A blind man would have known he was going to attempt to use the chakra to strike me! But sasuke couldn't do anything but get blown back!

Another thing:

When sasuke was fighting Deidara, he when they would explode. Yet a Byakugan user could:

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This right here killed your entire post. DO not argue with facts! Plus the fact it has only been stated to see the color of chakra and nothing more! Unless you can show any sharingan (sasuke really) that can see the chakra network even though the sharingan cannot stated by kishi/kakashi.


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And right here is the fact he didn't even see or notice Bee build up lightning chakra (chakra period) to counter his chidori sword. If he could see chakra build up, he would have seen that coming period! That is nothing like the Byakugan that can see chakra build up. Try again my child, I can keep going on when sasuke didnt "predict" or "see" chakra build up. But you get my point. :yay:


4. Funny how you think Neji is at the same level as when he was in the chunnin exam! lmmfao. Neji literally can grab sasukes arm/hand with pure chakra and alter his motion while counter attacking at the same time. Neji can literally use Rotation and blast sasuke heavily injuring him. Sasuke is not getting past neji's defense, period! You overrate his Close combat yet do not know the mechanics behind close combat to begin with.

5. Show any sharingan predicting chakra! Show any sharingan seeing anything but the color! Please I'm begging you! Show the sharinagn seeing any build up in the chakra network! Show the sharingan doing anything you state! I'll wait..

Once sasuke is with in range. 64 divinity rapes! He has no counter and no way to survive the light speed like strikes! Nor does he have the ability to fight and keep up with neji in the 64 divinity range! Moving so fast he looks like multiple ninjas fighting at once. Child please come harder before i can take you a little serious! Who's next?
 

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This is a really tough call. Setting aside the obvious Manda summon, I think Neji has a chance of winning here. He is outstanding in CQC after all, and obviously possess great Shinobi skills.
 

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And bro I wouldn't listen to anything Shlke states. He is the biggest sasuke tip ryder on this site. Mifune never used Quick draw on Sasuke, right there he is trying to make you think Sasuke is better with swords. But sasuke really sucks and relies heavily on his eyes, not skills. Mifune>>>Sasuke in kenjutsu and mifune has little to no screen time.

Haha I thought as well Mifune should be number 1..after all, that's his field and sasuke shouldn't be above him in terms of kenjutsu
Considering the fact that we hardly see mifune doesn't mean sasuke is above him
 

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they are on a different level how do you even compare.
 

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I'm Bored so i'll counter this post just for fun.

1. You do not seem to get that out side damage means nothing! I don't care if he Tanked a punch from the Raikage! Gental fist doesn't equate to physical damage to the out side. If sasuke attempts to block a Vacuum palm his body (what ever part) will be damaged 100%! No disputing since one cannot train their insides.

2. Killer bee cannot attack the insides so why do you keep bringing up physical/external damage? He couldn't even tank his own chidori internally, what makes you think he will tank pin point precise strikes?

3. And incorrect yet again! The reason why sasuke could not predict naruto's chakra was because he couldn't predict the speed/power/timing etc etc. I literally posted a picture of Naruto standing in one spot, cocking back his arm, then ! A blind man would have known he was going to attempt to use the chakra to strike me! But sasuke couldn't do anything but get blown back!

Another thing:

When sasuke was fighting Deidara, he when they would explode. Yet a Byakugan user could:

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This right here killed your entire post. DO not argue with facts! Plus the fact it has only been stated to see the color of chakra and nothing more! Unless you can show any sharingan (sasuke really) that can see the chakra network even though the sharingan cannot stated by kishi/kakashi.


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And right here is the fact he didn't even see or notice Bee build up lightning chakra (chakra period) to counter his chidori sword. If he could see chakra build up, he would have seen that coming period! That is nothing like the Byakugan that can see chakra build up. Try again my child, I can keep going on when sasuke didnt "predict" or "see" chakra build up. But you get my point. :yay:


4. Funny how you think Neji is at the same level as when he was in the chunnin exam! lmmfao. Neji literally can grab sasukes arm/hand with pure chakra and alter his motion while counter attacking at the same time. Neji can literally use Rotation and blast sasuke heavily injuring him. Sasuke is not getting past neji's defense, period! You overrate his Close combat yet do not know the mechanics behind close combat to begin with.

5. Show any sharingan predicting chakra! Show any sharingan seeing anything but the color! Please I'm begging you! Show the sharinagn seeing any build up in the chakra network! Show the sharingan doing anything you state! I'll wait..

Once sasuke is with in range. 64 divinity rapes! He has no counter and no way to survive the light speed like strikes! Nor does he have the ability to fight and keep up with neji in the 64 divinity range! Moving so fast he looks like multiple ninjas fighting at once. Child please come harder before i can take you a little serious! Who's next?

first vaccum palm did absolutely nothing to kisame's insides. Overrated.

second.The Sharingan's abilities consist of two parts: the "Eye of Insight" (洞察眼, Dōsatsugan) and the "Eye of Hypnotism" (催眠眼, Saimingan).[6] The first of the Sharingan's powers is being able to see chakra flow. The Sharingan itself gives colour to chakra, allowing the wielder to differentiate them.[7] They are also able to tell if a person is under a genjutsu because the person's chakra flow would be irregular.
he we see sasuke move before itachi opens his eye. he saw the build up of chakra in itachi's eye.

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here we see itachi say the the sharingan can see chakra. Not just color, chakra.

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here we see sasuke beat that same chakra naruto used, with his base 3-tomoe
saying the sharingan can't see chakra is ridiculous. even if the could only see color, the hyuuga have to expell it coupled with motion.

the motion tracking of the sharingan is superior

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third. it doesn't matter if you attack the organs, neji with physical attacks wouldn't be able to even get past sasuke's kenjutsu.

he has nothing that puts him on the motion level of bee. If you recall, bee didn't even touch sasuke until he overpowered him. Not happening against neji. Sasuke's kenjutsu could easily force neji into rotation. as for it being instant instant isn't real before the sharingan.
as for not sensing his chakra build up. karin the best sensor in the manga didn't sense it either. You overrate the hyuuga.
as I said earlier, sasuke would see neji expell chakra. Not only that he would see neji spin before he does.

sasuke could just wait with these

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when he finishes rotation.

funny how you think neji is on the level of hebi sasuke. Neji grabbing sasuke's hand with chakra is fan fiction. I already showed you sasuke seeing chakra build up, Why would he see the expulsion of chakra toward himself?

No one said sasuke gets over rotation, he does however forced neji into an infinite rotation or know when neji stops rotation before he does and counters.

sasuke has a counter to 64 palms

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this is why the hyuuga were only called the greats clan in konoha after the uchiha massacre.

Don't even get me started on manda

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Kidomaru figured out almost exctly how the byakugan works in a short time, without the ability to see chakra. sasuke would figure it out in less time. le sauce mid diff
 

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Haha I thought as well Mifune should be number 1..after all, that's his field and sasuke shouldn't be above him in terms of kenjutsu
Considering the fact that we hardly see mifune doesn't mean sasuke is above him

On this site we go by feats

this is all the quick draw is

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sasuke put raiton into his blade and countered before the samurai hit him. killer bee is indeed superior in kenjutsu than mifune
 
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