Part 2 Neji vs Hebi Sasuke

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Yet you guys are always acting that the perception of the Byakugan surpasses the sharingan due to being able to see the chakra network. When a person starts running, their blood circulation gets faster and since chakra is located within the cells of the body, Neji should have been able to anticipate Naruto's blitz attempt by noticing the chakra flow inside Naruto's blood increasing.

yes while we say that, we didn't say that it can be used to predict movements like the sharingan, just to predict jutsus and what type it will be according to the chakra placement in the body and the color. and fyi, the chakra isn't in the bloodstream. it has its own network that runs through, the other cells in the body. not only that, but the heart rate and blood pressure happens after you start activity and not before, and considering they awere already fighting to begin with, its not a change that would have been noticeable.
 

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what stop the sharingan user from seeing the other person build up chakra and spin before they do?


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what stops sasuke from seeing neji finish the spin before he actually does and attacking as he finishes? neji either runs himself out of chakra or gets killed

Neji, along with Kakashi, was able to keep up with Lee's movement in his Gates mode, Kakashi due to being able to predict movements and Neji due to be able to follow high speed movement. So the Byakugan is capable of being able to see some pretty fast jutsus, which would allow them to be able to counter the black flames or susanoo arrow easier.

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Hyuga are the best at Chakra controlling and can easily manipulate it as well. Shape Transformation is an advanced form of chakra control and a technique that is pivotal for the manipulation of chakra and the creation of new techniques. It involves changing the form and movement of chakra, determining the size, range, and purpose of a technique.

It is said that the Hyuga clan possesses more than one kekkei genkai

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one of which grants them the ability to expel chakra from every tenketsu in their body, allowing them to fully utilise chakra with attacks such as the Eight Trigrams Palms Revolving Heaven and the Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body techniques

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Beating Ninjutsu
The Sharingan has the ability to predict there opponents movements, which is good, but the Byakugan also has a predictive capability to it. The Byakugan, being able to see the chakra flow inside there opponents, can see how there opponent molds there chakra.

(Remember when kakashi was training naruto to walk on water and to do so they had to focus there chakra towards there feet and balance it?) In order to use jutsu you mold your chakra differently, for instance someone using a fireball technique that comes out of the mouth would mold there chakra differently than someone who uses an earth technique to move the ground below them.

The Byakugan user can see how there opponent molds there chakra and thus can act accordingly split seconds before there opponent actually acts and thus they can not only predict whether there opponents will use genjutsu, taijutsu or ninjutsu, but they can also forsee what kind of jutsu it will be based on keen observation of there opponents chakra. Granted this doesnt completely render jutsu's useless, but it gives the Byakugan user an advantage in being able to dodge it.


Beating Taijutsu
Gentle Palm Fist Style is a huge bonus for the Byakugan user, with this they dont just have the ultimate defense but they also have the ultimate offense. All there attacks have the potential to do internal damage which means even someone like the 3rd Raikage who had a "skin of steel and blood of iron" would take full damage from Byakugan user, not to mention that there attacks target the opponents chakra network thus slowing it and further weakening the opponent draining them of chakra and this technique can be used at a distance via "vacuum palm technique". And lets not forget that much like Gai and Rock Lee the Byakugan users specialize in taijutsu. Furthermore Byakugan users have been known to knock people out with just one hit, it is shown when Hiashi fights the ambassodor from kumogakure or like when Hizashi beat his brother in just one blow. It is constantly shown that Byakugan users that are skilled can knock out there opponents with just one blow
 
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lee lacked to proper tools to fight neji without the gates. Sasuke on the other hand isn't comparable to lee. he has a wide array or ninjutsu and the sharingan.

don't compare lee to sasuke

this a matter of cqc, pls refrain from trying to change subject. in cqc lee is superior to sasuke, and has similar speed as well, yet has still not been able to best neji in cqc
 

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this a matter of cqc, pls refrain from trying to change subject. in cqc lee is superior to sasuke, and has similar speed as well, yet has still not been able to best neji in cqc

never fought neji with the gates. Sasuke shits on base lee in cqc
 

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never fought neji with the gates. Sasuke shits on base lee in cqc

im sorry, but lee has a 5 in taijutsu, which is the highest you can get. sasuke has a 3.5, which is under nejis 4.5. tell me, how is he better in cqc?
 

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im sorry, but lee has a 5 in taijutsu, which is the highest you can get. sasuke has a 3.5, which is under nejis 4.5. tell me, how is he better in cqc?

sasuke got a 5 in ninjutsu. sasuke would have beaten bee with his chidori sword had bee not been a raiton type.

sasuke's ninjutsu and taijutsu combines would give him an 8.5. lee would have a 5.5
 

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Databook stats mean jack everyone...........but sasuke still wins handily. Not debatable
 

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sasuke got a 5 in ninjutsu. sasuke would have beaten bee with his chidori sword had bee not been a raiton type.

sasuke's ninjutsu and taijutsu combines would give him an 8.5. lee would have a 5.5

most of sasukes ninjutsu are mid ranged, not close ranged. also, bee was destroying sasuke in cqc and had it not been for raiton, he would have died.

lee doesn't have ninjutsu, but he makes up for it with his reaw speed/power/taijutsu combo.

Databook stats mean jack everyone...........but sasuke still wins handily. Not debatable

which is fine and dandy considering its just your own opinion...
 

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most of sasukes ninjutsu are mid ranged, not close ranged. also, bee was destroying sasuke in cqc and had it not been for raiton, he would have died.

lee doesn't have ninjutsu, but he makes up for it with his reaw speed/power/taijutsu combo.



which is fine and dandy considering its just your own opinion...

Not really-it's a fact that using databook stats to prove your point isn't convincing. And hebi sasuke stomping neji is no less an opinion than kisame stomping konohamaru(aka it's basically a fact..)
 

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Part 2 sasuke wins. In part 1 neji had the upper hand. Doubt sharingan can copy kekki genki or madara would have copied wood release a long time ago. But sasuke can fight close and mid range. Even long range in some instances. Neji can only fight close range. I love neji, but he loses this one.
Neji never really had "the upper hand" after Sasuke trained with Kakashi where he learned Chidori. Even Lee said Sasuke surpassed him at that point.
 

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most of sasukes ninjutsu are mid ranged, not close ranged. also, bee was destroying sasuke in cqc and had it not been for raiton, he would have died.

lee doesn't have ninjutsu, but he makes up for it with his reaw speed/power/taijutsu combo.



which is fine and dandy considering its just your own opinion...

sasuke was one weakened

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and two out powered. Lee is no stronger than sasuke

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had bee not been a raiton type this attack would have been effective

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lee isn't on the level of bee, and sasuke can follow all his movements. Lee wouldn't even get past nagashi
 

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Neji never really had "the upper hand" after Sasuke trained with Kakashi where he learned Chidori. Even Lee said Sasuke surpassed him at that point.
Lee never said such and Neji destroys him at that point
 

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sasuke was one weakened

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and two out powered. Lee is no stronger than sasuke

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had bee not been a raiton type this attack would have been effective

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lee isn't on the level of bee, and sasuke can follow all his movements. Lee wouldn't even get past nagashi

Wait till lee proves himself
 

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might as well have

How in the world does this show sasuke surpassed lee??..are you kidding me?..Gates?..just stop this ..all we see is lee praising him...sasuke doesn't even have the stamina to maintain that speed
 

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How in the world does this show sasuke surpassed lee??..are you kidding me?..Gates?..just stop this ..all we see is lee praising him...sasuke doesn't even have the stamina to maintain that speed

lee can't see a counter to chidori with his eyes
 

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lee can't see a counter to chidori with his eyes
I think you misunderstood...Lee says "I don't have the eyes to see the counter"..referring to the fact that chidori is a straightforward attack making it easy for an opponent to counter..but he's saying sasuke has the eyes to see the counter..that's why he says " I'm jealous of your lineage" ..meaning even if lee makes a straightforward attack, he doesn't have the eyes to see his opponent's counter if he fails to land the hit unlike sasuke
 

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hohoho....draegod's back
 

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I think you misunderstood...Lee says "I don't have the eyes to see the counter"..referring to the fact that chidori is a straightforward attack making it easy for an opponent to counter..but he's saying sasuke has the eyes to see the counter..that's why he says " I'm jealous of your lineage" ..meaning even if lee makes a straightforward attack, he doesn't have the eyes to see his opponent's counter if he fails to land the hit unlike sasuke
none of this provides lee a counter to chidori sword or nagashi
 
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