Part 1: Hatred in Naruto Verse

[flyboyissac]

please do a part 2 this is a must read here i agree 99.9%

hatred is a forever thing i hope you know no matter how you do it hatred will always be in there hatred is creation nothing can destroy it

as long as fear, people, things, everything exists hatred is involved

even if they win this war hate will always attack someone int he village and we still have other shinobi's that dont know whats going on in they world they hate never ends

 

[Tenasa Uchiha]

That's exactly the of comments That ruin this forum. Please take the time to read the thread and post a serious comment that would benefit, and not hurt, the discussion. Thank you.

Tell them wassup guts

 

[XxBlackOutxX]

Nice thread.

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

Great thread, What i have read so far. I'll read the rest later.

Thank you for taking the time to read it

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

Tell them wassup guts

Haha ya. Thanks for reading

 

[OaklandBlades]

Best thread I've seen in a while. Good job on the analysis and putting it all together. I see a lot of similarities between you and me, can't wait for part 2 .

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

Pein's speech to Naruto.

[video=youtube;asFvPIKBoaI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asFvPIKBoaI[/video]

Thanks for bringing this up, I love his speech. I'm thinking of using this for part 2 if you don't mind.

 

[davidou]

A very Nice thread. I agree with it mostly except the Kaguya part. Kaguya's only job was to stop the reproduction the the Shinju through the fruit. The fruit itself is the manifestation of hatred, that continued down by being passed throught the Bijuu and the successor's.

I also think that the curse of hatred is the manifestation of the curse of the fruit on Kaguya (via the bijuu and the tomoed eyes of Uchiha).

But there are also good points , interesting read.

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

please do a part 2 this is a must read here i agree 99.9%

hatred is a forever thing i hope you know no matter how you do it hatred will always be in there hatred is creation nothing can destroy it

as long as fear, people, things, everything exists hatred is involved

even if they win this war hate will always attack someone int he village and we still have other shinobi's that dont know whats going on in they world they hate never ends

Well said and I think this is where there is a connection with the real world. There always has been conflict between humans since the beginning of time for whatever that case may be(land, power, religion,etc). even though now globally we have reached a state of global stability, the world is not perfect.

However, without saying too much from what I will talk about in part 2, I can say that it will be somewhat connected to the video of pein speech on this thread.

 

[Zorø]

Nice to know.........

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

Best thread I've seen in a while. Good job on the analysis and putting it all together. I see a lot of similarities between you and me, can't wait for part 2 .

=D thank you

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

A very Nice thread. I agree with it mostly except the Kaguya part. Kaguya's only job was to stop the reproduction the the Shinju through the fruit. The fruit itself is the manifestation of hatred, that continued down by being passed throught the Bijuu and the successor's.

First, thanks for contributing to the thread, I really appreciate it sp=D but I'm not sure I understand what you are saying about the fruit. Are you saying that the fruit is the manifestation of hatred and that Kaguya actually had good intentions?

 

[UCE]

nice points

 

[Six Paths]

First, thanks for contributing to the thread, I really appreciate it sp=D but I'm not sure I understand what you are saying about the fruit. Are you saying that the fruit is the manifestation of hatred and that Kaguya actually had good intentions?

Kaguya wanted to stop the reproduction of the fruit. She is the person that wanted to neither Peace nor War. The fruit was a dense chakra from the shinju. It was supposed to be the future shinju, a much smarter and stronger verion of it. Kaguya ate the fruit and stopped this from happening. But with the fruit, with each millenium, it becomes smarter and this fruit was actually smart and had intelligence. It took over Kaguya and ruled Naruto World.

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

Kaguya wanted to stop the reproduction of the fruit. She is the person that wanted to neither Peace nor War. The fruit was a dense chakra from the shinju. It was supposed to be the future shinju, a much smarter and stronger verion of it. Kaguya ate the fruit and stopped this from happening. But with the fruit, with each millenium, it becomes smarter and this fruit was actually smart and had intelligence. It took over Kaguya and ruled Naruto World.

Very interesting. So what i'm getting from your comment is that you believe that the fruit itself is the source of hatred and that it was because Kaguya consumed it that there is the current hatred in the world, correct me if i'm wrong. If so, let me ask you this: It has been stated that there were wars before that so what about the hatred that was already present in the world before she consumed the fruit?

 

[Six Paths]

Very interesting. So what i'm getting from your comment is that you believe that the fruit itself is the source of hatred and that it was because Kaguya consumed it that there is the current hatred in the world, correct me if i'm wrong. If so, let me ask you this: It has been stated that there were wars before that so what about the hatred that was already present in the world before she consumed the fruit?

The hatred was part of the humans all along. The shinju existed to create a guardian to protect the humans from themselves.
Kaguya thought that the fruit would have bad intentions since it had to much power. After consuming the fruit, she lost her mind to the Fruit. The Fruit brought peace through the harsh way, by leading all the humans. And The fruit before it dies gave the personality to the Sons of Kaguya, both of them being able to fight the will of the Fruit, they weren't taken over. The fruit once it saw it's chakra being distributed wanted one thing and one thing only. To destroy every single human alive. And get the chakra back. This was the conclusion.
The hate wasn't born by the shinju it was born by the humans, The Sage drove it even further, with choosing only one son.
The fruit now was affected by the Hate, Now the humans got to understand each other and unite. The turn is to the Fruit.
When it earns the trust of the humans, The Manga gets it's righfull END

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

The hatred was part of the humans all along. The shinju existed to create a guardian to protect the humans from themselves.
Kaguya thought that the fruit would have bad intentions since it had to much power. After consuming the fruit, she lost her mind to the Fruit. The Fruit brought peace through the harsh way, by leading all the humans. And The fruit before it dies gave the personality to the Sons of Kaguya, both of them being able to fight the will of the Fruit, they weren't taken over. The fruit once it saw it's chakra being distributed wanted one thing and one thing only. To destroy every single human alive. And get the chakra back. This was the conclusion.
The hate wasn't born by the shinju it was born by the humans, The Sage drove it even further, with choosing only one son.
The fruit now was affected by the Hate, Now the humans got to understand each other and unite. The turn is to the Fruit.
When it earns the trust of the humans, The Manga gets it's righfull END

Love it! I don't think I have heard this theory before and it seems very possible, good job. Looks like we both agree on the fact that there was hatred before and that this hate has kept going and even intensified because of the sages to the climax that we have now. What happened between kaguya and the fruit remains to be seen, but what you said seems very possible.

our difference lies in the fact that you believe that the source of it is the fruit itself while I believe that it is more the juubi and as a result kaguya. Wether or not it is the fruit, I believe that kaguya and now madara embody that hatred now and of course we will learn more as the story progresses.

One more question though going off your theory.

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What do you think about the fruit appearing only once a millennium?

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

nice points

Thank you, Karin =D

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

I hope Kaguya will become the Final Villain, I mean there's strong chance of possibility when she'll take over Madara at his weakened state.

 

[JesseBlack]

Dude I get what your saying, but the problem isn't that people are saying that their fav solos, the problem is that people take this overboard (like the Sasuke fanboys who believe the Sasuke solos Jesus, Obama and every character of anime and manga in existence)