Part 1 Gaara and Sasuke Vs Early Part 2 Kakashi

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No but gaara part 1 was stated that if he is knocked unconcious shukaku would take over ......

With that being said kakashi wouldn't auto try to kill kids ... So I mean with that being said shukaku would fight him
Yes i had forgotten about that. Kakashi can't beat a bijuu, but even his slow kamui back then can warp away stationary Gaara while he loses concious to go Shukaku mode
 

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Yes i had forgotten about that. Kakashi can't beat a bijuu, but even his slow kamui back then can warp away stationary Gaara while he loses concious to go Shukaku mode
That's assuming kakashi has Intel on gaara .... If he goes to knock gaara out that in itself would be his downfall
 

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Who said that? i'd love to know.


Anyways you're going off the assumption that garra even gets to that state. We know it takes forever for him to even get there and on top of that we already saw that chidori can interrupt the process. Forcing garra to not only be extremely weak, but start from scratch.

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I don't agree with it either i was just saying. Gaara would never even need to do transform into his Bijuu.
 

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Late pt.1 Gaara could easily give Kakashi a run for his money. Let's not forget Kakashi's inefficiency with Kamui accuracy wise.

Not sure what Sasuke has to offer, seeing as he fights CQC, and missing Kamui from eye to eye level or reacting to it is impossible here.
 

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Late pt.1 Gaara could easily give Kakashi a run for his money. Let's not forget Kakashi's inefficiency with Kamui accuracy wise.

Not sure what Sasuke has to offer, seeing as he fights CQC, and missing Kamui from eye to eye level or reacting to it is impossible here.
It's inneficient on moving targets.. Gaara is stationary, and without knowledge he has no reason to block LoS with sand. He gets warped.
 

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It's inneficient on moving targets.. Gaara is stationary, and without knowledge he has no reason to block LoS with sand. He gets warped.
Stationary? Nah b. Once Gaara had used desert suspension to avoid Kimimaro's Bone Forest ability, that's when he branched out from his sit, and cast fighting style.

Why do you think Gaara showed fighting aerial right at the start of Pt.2? Literally the first, and only fight we saw from him after his fight with Kimimaro in which he learned to levitate his own sand?

Gaara wouldn't fight stationary, especially in a no restrictions fight, where he is applicable to do anything within his arsenal from part one.
 

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Stationary? Nah b. Once Gaara had used desert suspension to avoid Kimimaro's Bone Forest ability, that's when he branched out from his sit, and cast fighting style.

Why do you think Gaara showed fighting aerial right at the start of Pt.2? Literally the first, and only fight we saw from him after his fight with Kimimaro in which he learned to levitate his own sand?

Gaara wouldn't fight stationary, especially in a no restrictions fight, where he is applicable to do anything within his arsenal from part one.
Yes Gaara could use suspension. But why would he be moving around? I don't see why he'd do that without knowledge. He can block all of Kakashi's long range attacks, and Kakashi has no need to get close to force him to move, because he has kamui
 

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how effective is kakashi's headhunter jutsu against gaara? (it's slowly becoming my favorite jutsu)

I was thinking kakashi could just use a shadow clone to bait gaara, while the real kakashi gets undground to close his position against gaara. the ability is fast and effective and has tricked even akatsuki tier.
 

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If Gaara suddenly decides to turn the earth under his feet into sand, being down there wouldn't be good. But Kakashi could use mud wall to block Gaara's sight so he goes underground and uses raikiri uppercut. Won't work if Gaara is floating anyways
 

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The outcome depends on Shukaku's influence in this match.
If Gaara attempts a sand tsunami, then Kakashi can pop up an earth wall to block the sand in his immediate vicinity. He can go underground while Gaara's vision is obscured by the wall of sand and pop up next to him.
Kakashi uses Raikiri right then and Gaara's sand most likely won't be able to form a sufficient wall between them to block Raikiri in that period of time.

It's hard to imagine how Sasuke and Gaara could effectively coordinate since Sasuke wouldn't be able to do anything but sit back and observe as Gaara uses his large scale attacks, otherwise he would just get in the way.

Kakashi would beat part 1 Sasuke pretty easily. He beats Sasuke with superior combat prowess then kills him with Raikiri.

If Shukaku comes out, then I can't really see Kakashi doing much. Maybe he could use Kamui on Gaara on top of Shukaku's head. I'm not sure if that's a more realistic scenario than Kakashi getting blown away by Shukaku's wind style or Bijudama if it comes to the point where it regains enough power to use it.
 

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If Gaara suddenly decides to turn the earth under his feet into sand, being down there wouldn't be good. But Kakashi could use mud wall to block Gaara's sight so he goes underground and uses raikiri uppercut. Won't work if Gaara is floating anyways
I think the sand is fast enough to intercept the uppercut. my idea was kakashi could just literally pull gaara underneath where his head is sticking out, that should be enough downtime for the shadow clone kakashi that was stalling gaara up above to finish him off with raikiri or kamui snipe lol yeah, forgot about mudwall. I was imagining kakashi briefly dashed behind a tree to swap himself with a clone like he did against hidan. (edit: the clone swap was filler. sigh...)
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as for the floater I honestly don't believe he would use that unless he has a reason to do so. like he did against kimi and deidara. but again, my strategy is base upon if gaara is stationary like he was in chuunin exam arc. but even so, I still can't see gaara legit moving asap, atleast not when he confronted GKS sasuke.

The outcome depends on Shukaku's influence in this match.
If Gaara attempts a sand tsunami, then Kakashi can pop up an earth wall to block the sand in his immediate vicinity. He can go underground while Gaara's vision is obscured by the wall of sand and pop up next to him.
Kakashi uses Raikiri right then and Gaara's sand most likely won't be able to form a sufficient wall between them to block Raikiri in that period of time.

It's hard to imagine how Sasuke and Gaara could effectively coordinate since Sasuke wouldn't be able to do anything but sit back and observe as Gaara uses his large scale attacks, otherwise he would just get in the way.

Kakashi would beat part 1 Sasuke pretty easily. He beats Sasuke with superior combat prowess then kills him with Raikiri.

If Shukaku comes out, then I can't really see Kakashi doing much. Maybe he could use Kamui on Gaara on top of Shukaku's head. I'm not sure if that's a more realistic scenario than Kakashi getting blown away by Shukaku's wind style or Bijudama if it comes to the point where it regains enough power to use it.
Sasuke should be able to see the chakra underground if I remember correctly.
 
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I think the sand is fast enough to intercept the uppercut. my idea was kakashi could just literally pull gaara underneath where his head is sticking out, that should be enough downtime for the shadow clone kakashi that was stalling gaara up above to finish him off with raikiri or kamui snipe lol yeah, forgot about mudwall. I was imagining kakashi briefly dashed behind a tree to swap himself with a clone like he did against hidan. (edit: the clone swap was filler. sigh...)
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as for the floater I honestly don't believe he would use that unless he has a reason to do so. like he did against kimi and deidara. but again, my strategy is base upon if gaara is stationary like he was in chuunin exam arc. but even so, I still can't see gaara legit moving asap, atleast not when he confronted GKS sasuke.



Sasuke should be able to see the chakra underground if I remember correctly.
Yeah he could, but I don't see how that would help.

The jutsu apparently conceals the users presence since Itachi wasn't able to see Kakashi until he came up.
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Gaara's chakra infused sand would also be on the surface, so he wouldn't actually be able to see Kakashi traveling to their location, even if for some reason he had the ability to see him traveling underground.
 
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Yeah he could, but I don't see how that would help.

The jutsu apparently conceals the users presence since Itachi wasn't able to see Kakashi until he came up.
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Gaara's chakra infused sand would also be on the surface, so he wouldn't actually be able to see Kakashi traveling to their location, even if for some reason he had the ability to see him traveling underground.

who cares about itachi, he probably just faked his way pretending to not see kakashi since he's not his real enemy or the fact it's just a body double using a fraction of itachi's power is the reason for it, either way sasuke has been shown to see chakra underneath. therefore he should be able to see raikiri underground. therefore giving gaara the heads up.

gaara's sand will not be on the surface until after he unleashes the tsunami. which I see no reason for him to do that anyway.
 

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who cares about itachi, he probably just faked his way pretending to not see kakashi since he's not his real enemy or the fact it's just a body double using a fraction of itachi's power is the reason for it, either way sasuke has been shown to see chakra underneath. therefore he should be able to see raikiri underground. therefore giving gaara the heads up.

gaara's sand will not be on the surface until after he unleashes the tsunami. which I see no reason for him to do that anyway.
There isn't anything implying that Itachi faked anything there. Insinuating that part 1 Sasuke is going to be giving Gaara a heads up when even Itachi didn't perceive Kakashi is ridiculous. Part 1 Sasuke's capabilities are nowhere near Itachi's capabilities.
 
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