Pandora's Box: The True Danger To The World

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Seems to be a literal pandora's box... (ok maybe not literal, but damn it if it's not similar.) Isn't it stated that the juubi is the progenetor of all sadness and despair in the world? And yet it's also said to be emotionless and Nature incarnate.

Plot necessitates the juubi's full revival, but plot also requires new elements to be added rather than rehashed. I doubt Obito will have yet another internal struggle with the juubi and it's psyche, although i have no idea what could possibly happen or what Madara's trump card could possible be.


I'm very interested in whether the Sage meant what he said about the Juubi's revival hypothetically, as in "should the juubi be revived, it would signal the end of the world" or if he meant it literally, as in "When the juubi is revived, it will signal the end of the world." Did he theorize the juubi's revival, or did he foresee it?
 
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Seems to be a literal pandora's box... (ok maybe not literal, but damn it if it's not similar.) Isn't it stated that the juubi is the progenetor of all sadness and despair in the world? And yet it's also said to be emotionless and Nature incarnate.

Plot necessitates the juubi's full revival, but plot also requires new elements to be added rather than rehashed. I doubt Obito will have yet another internal struggle with the juubi and it's psyche, although i have no idea what could possibly happen or what Madara's trump card could possible be.


I'm very interested in whether the Sage meant what he said about the Juubi's revival hypothetically, as in "should the juubi be revived, it would signal the end of the world" or if he meant it literally, as in "When the juubi is revived, it will signal the end of the world." Did he theorize the juubi's revival, or did he foresee it?

Its Full Revival is what Rikudou was worried about. Not the current transformations/host we see now. Most probably he foresaw it.
 

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Its Full Revival is what Rikudou was worried about. Not the current transformations/host we see now.

Yes i know. But was he speaking hypothetically or did he actually foresee its revival and is well aware of what's transpiring currently? Hmmmm
 

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Yes i know. But was he speaking hypothetically or did he actually foresee its revival and is well aware of what's transpiring currently? Hmmmm

I think he foresaw it, since his words to the Bijuus "I hope you know what true strength is, before that time..."
 

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I think he foresaw it, since his words to the Bijuus "I hope you know what true strength is, before that time..."

Right. Right. It's interesting. Makes me wonder about the end of the world and how much the Sage actually saw.
 

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Right. Right. It's interesting. Makes me wonder about the end of the world and how much the Sage actually saw.

Worst case scenario is that he actually planned it, why would he leave a Tablet detailing information on how to revive the Juubi if he didn't have acquiescence of the possibility of it being used for that very purpose? maybe he intended all of this to happen to unite the world.
 

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Worst case scenario is that he actually planned it, why would he leave a Tablet detailing information on how to revive the Juubi if he didn't have acquiescence of the possibility of it being used for that very purpose? maybe he intended all of this to happen to unite the world.

My guess is the Sage probaly knew what would happen and left the Uchiha tablet behind so that his descendants could stop the Juubi.
 

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Worst case scenario is that he actually planned it, why would he leave a Tablet detailing information on how to revive the Juubi if he didn't have acquiescence of the possibility of it being used for that very purpose? maybe he intended all of this to happen to unite the world.

I've thought of this possibility. My only problem with it is that the Bijuu wouldn't wish to follow Naruto if they originally put faith in a Sage who wished for the destruction of the world. That would mean the Sage purposefully led the bijuu on for no reason.

My guess is the Sage probaly knew what would happen and left the Uchiha tablet behind so that his descendants could stop the Juubi.

That makes no sense as the only people able to instigate the plan in the first place would be the Uchiha. So why tell them how to fulfill the plan just so they can choose not to?
 
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I've thought of this possibility. My only problem with it is that the Bijuu wouldn't wish to follow Naruto if they originally put faith in a Sage who wished for the destruction of the world. That would mean the Sage purposefully led the bijuu on for no reason.

Perhaps it's a "necessary evil" for the greater good of the world (uniting all of them despite the chaos its revival caused). Anyways the details of it are hidden in obscurity, another hypothesis I have is that Rikudou and Juubi actually had a Faustian Pact concerning its revival.
 

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Perhaps it's a "necessary evil" for the greater good of the world (uniting all of them despite the chaos its revival caused). Anyways the details of it are hidden in obscurity, another hypothesis I have is that Rikudou and Juubi actually had a Faustian Pact concerning its revival.

Is there a thread of this?
 

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Is there a thread of this?

No there isn't, I've read about it in an obscure blog that Rikudou and the Juubi actually made a "deal" of some sort that allowed Juubi to be sealed inside Rikudou in order to buy time for humanity to change their ways.
 

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No there isn't, I've read about it in an obscure blog that Rikudou and the Juubi actually made a "deal" of some sort that allowed Juubi to be sealed inside Rikudou in order to buy time for humanity to change their ways.

Interesting... that would be interesting. Although recent chapters kind of disprove it somewhat.
 

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Interesting... that would be interesting. Although recent chapters kind of disprove it somewhat.

Yes, King of Lightning made a video theory discussing something similar to that theory:

[video=youtube;TPcp-oRUsxw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPcp-oRUsxw[/video]
 
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The true danger does not seem to be Obito, Madara or Mugen Tsukuyomi:

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The Full Revival of the Jūbi is the true danger according to Rikūdo Sennin.

Obito however said he doesn't need the Jūbi to be fully revived/at full capacity for Mugen Tsukuyomi:

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The Jūbi even without a large portion of Gyūki and Kurama's Chakra can reach its Full and Final Transformation: (given the time and opportunity to transform)

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Obito sealed in himself an incomplete/ not fully revived/transformed Jūbi:

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Plot and literary progression necessitates the Full Revival of the Jūbi since it has been foreshadowed long ago. Either the Jūbi will fully transform inside Obito and overtake him again, or Naruto and co. Severely injuring Obito will allow Jūbi to escape and reach its final transformation or... Madara's trump card will intentionally/unintentionally facilitate Jūbi reaching its Full and Final Transformation.

i think obito will be killed and jyuubi will be the final villian
 

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Yes, I believe that the Juubi's complete form is the that real threat. The legend says that the prime Juubi created an entire planet. If he could create a planet, we can also assume the the Juubi could also destroy it. The Juubi, being a planetary threat poses a far higher level of danger than Obito who's only a country level threat. The origin of all things(Prime Juubi) would be a great contestant for the final antagonist.
 

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Yes, I believe that the Juubi's complete form is the that real threat. The legend says that the prime Juubi created an entire planet. If he could create a planet, we can also assume the the Juubi could also destroy it. The Juubi, being a planetary threat poses a far higher level of danger than Obito who's only a country level threat. The origin of all things(Prime Juubi) would be a great contestant for the final antagonist.

Indeed, and I believe the inevitable outcome is its Full Revival like the one during Rikūdo's Era
 
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