Pain vs Sasuke

[NLee]

Depends if you mean Pain as in the 6 Paths of Pain. If so then yes, Pain wins.

If you mean Nagato alone, eh it would be close but I still say Nagato

 

[laxus]

kirin cannot be absorbed dude it is direct lightning not one based on chakra(aka ninjutsu) so pain can be hit with kirin and die. And who said ocular genjutsu does not work on pain.

you can absorb kirin it a lighting release
unless you think the element in naruto are fake they use the real elements
and sasuke uses his chakra for that tech that's how it's even guided to hit the oppenent.

 

[MasqueradeNX]

Pain all the way

 

[arv993]

you can absorb kirin it a lighting release
unless you think the element in naruto are fake they use the real elements
and sasuke uses his chakra for that tech that's how it's even guided to hit the oppenent.

ok man read these links they say how he uses lightning striaght from the sky(heavens) and he even says its out of chakra.

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it is all natural lightning pain cannot absorb that man.

its like what guy did he used an attack and water still was pushed by it yet shark missle did not absorb it.

 

[laxus]

ok man read these links they say how he uses lightning striaght from the sky(heavens) and he even says its out of chakra.

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it is all natural lightning pain cannot absorb that man.

its like what guy did he used an attack and water still was pushed by it yet shark missle did not absorb it.

it doesn't matter if it's all natural lighting, the lighting release are like that
he manipulates kirin with his chakra that how he's able to move it
it only requires little to do it
kirin is a srank ninjutsu technique
do you think there a difference between wind from a person then wind from nature no it's just by using nature it could make the attack stronger or to your advantage

plus there a orb around the preta path it suck anything even if it's lava

 

[asad70ful]

sasuke will win or it will be a draw
pain dont got a chance
although he got his dead mates,and some more jutsus
but sasuke got his own skills

 

[asad70ful]

sasuke rules

 

[arv993]

it doesn't matter if it's all natural lighting, the lighting release are like that
he manipulates kirin with his chakra that how he's able to move it
it only requires little to do it
kirin is a srank ninjutsu technique
do you think there a difference between wind from a person then wind from nature no it's just by using nature it could make the attack stronger or to your advantage

plus there a orb around the preta path it suck anything even if it's lava

no it can't man it says he can absorb chakra based attacks and all attacks are nature manipulation which use "chakra" that is what can be absorbed this is pure lightning that he uses, it does not use chakra all sasuke does it directly at the target and its speed is 1/1000 of a second. He cannot absorb natural lightning from the sky that is not stated in the manga. Its like the same situation where guy uses a punch afternoon tiger and water blew towards the shark missle yet it could not absorb it. And yes wind used blowing naturally is different from wind created by a person using chakra. it cannot go around absorbing "nature" like pure lightning the manga does not state that. Laxus preta absorbs chakra that is how he nullifies ninjutsu but this is lightning straight from the sky its pure lightning all sasuke is doing is directing it towards the target. go read preta's abilities in nartupedia if you don't believe me.

 

[laxus]

no it can't man it says he can absorb chakra based attacks and all attacks are nature manipulation which use "chakra" that is what can be absorbed this is pure lightning that he uses, it does not use chakra all sasuke does it directly at the target and its speed is 1/1000 of a second. He cannot absorb natural lightning from the sky that is not stated in the manga. Its like the same situation where guy uses a punch afternoon tiger and water blew towards the shark missle yet it could not absorb it. And yes wind used blowing naturally is different from wind created by a person using chakra. it cannot go around absorbing "nature" like pure lightning the manga does not state that.

and what in kirin that guides
is afternoon tiger an element

 

[arv993]

and what in kirin that guides
is afternoon tiger an element

lightning is an element but kirin does not use chakra he even said "i ran out of chakra" do u think he can create something that huge, no he did not it is natural lightning from the sky all he did was direct it but everything else is not chakra but thunder/lightning from the sky.

Here is the section on narutopedia about preta's abilities it talks about chakra absorption, does not talk abot absorbing things without chakra such as kirin.


This path's "chakra absorption" ability was primarily defensive, since it was capable of absorbing any ninjutsu-related technique, thereby nullifying its effect. This technique could also take the form of a barrier around its body, allowing it to absorb attacks from all directions. In addition to its defensive properties, this body's ability had also shown offensive capabilities, as it could absorb all the chakra out of any person that it touched or grabbed. It was incapacitated and petrified during the invasion of Pain after it absorbed too much of Naruto Uzumaki's senjutsu chakra and turned into a toad statue.

 

[laxus]

lightning is an element but kirin does not use chakra he even said "i ran out of chakra" do u think he can create something that huge, no he did not it is natural lightning from the sky all he did was direct it but everything else is not chakra but thunder/lightning from the sky.

Here is the section on narutopedia about preta's abilities it talks about chakra absorption, does not talk abot absorbing things without chakra such as kirin.


This path's "chakra absorption" ability was primarily defensive, since it was capable of absorbing any ninjutsu-related technique, thereby nullifying its effect. This technique could also take the form of a barrier around its body, allowing it to absorb attacks from all directions. In addition to its defensive properties, this body's ability had also shown offensive capabilities, as it could absorb all the chakra out of any person that it touched or grabbed. It was incapacitated and petrified during the invasion of Pain after it absorbed too much of Naruto Uzumaki's senjutsu chakra and turned into a toad statue.

you just basically paste the answer
what is kirin classification ninjutsu
again sasuke moving it because kirin is sync with sasuke chakra and you don't need much instead need little chakra
also look lighting release up and you'll see that elements fromn ature stengthen jutsu's
it can absorb any ninjutsu but you have to train for sage mode or unless what do you expect to absorb sage mode chakra and not be turned into a frog but he still absorbed it

 

[arv993]

you just basically paste the answer
what is kirin classification ninjutsu
again sasuke moving it because kirin is sync with sasuke chakra and you don't need much instead need little chakra
also look lighting release up and you'll see that elements fromn ature stengthen jutsu's
it can absorb any ninjutsu but you have to train for sage mode or unless what do you expect to absorb sage mode chakra and not be turned into a frog but he still absorbed it

dude he needs chakra to direct it other than that it is all lightning he said he ran out of chakra and is confirmed by itachi also all he did was use lightning straight from the sky, yes its ninjutsu but it is not chakra but just pure lightning. do you not read the chakra absorbtion part of it kirin does not use chakra all he does is direct it with a little chakra not the whole thing is chakra. Nature is different from chakra idk why you don't get that though it clearly says that it is a "chakra absorption technique" but this tech does not use chakra other than sasuke directing the attack.

 

[thatguy]

Well IDK what to say....

Pain- They call him the man who became god, Killed J man, Killed Kakashi and the whole squad that came to help out with only 2 paths and one was still alive, Has the rinnegan, was called the S06P reincarnation, Beat the 6 tails kyuubi (Until it went 8) Made Konah KNOW PAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

Sasuke- They call him the Avenger, Killed Danzo, Was about to kill Kakashi and Sakura afterwards too until Naruto came, Has the MS, beat killerbee, and wants to destroy Konah.

Plus now he has EMS and probably some crazy new abilities

 

[laxus]

dude he needs chakra to direct it other than that it is all lightning he said he ran out of chakra and is confirmed by itachi also all he did was use lightning straight from the sky, yes its ninjutsu but it is not chakra but just pure lightning. do you not read the chakra absorbtion part of it kirin does not use chakra all he does is direct it with a little chakra not the whole thing is chakra. Nature is different from chakra idk why you don't get that though it clearly says that it is a "chakra absorption technique" but this tech does not use chakra other than sasuke directing the attack.

you answer your question the preta absorbs all ninjutsu attack and sasuke used little chakra to use kirin that's how he was able to throw
pure lighting is just stronger than when somone makes it.
you don't get that it's infused with chakra and it's ninjutsu so preta will absorb it

 

[arv993]

you answer your question the preta absorbs all ninjutsu attack and sasuke used little chakra to use kirin that's how he was able to throw
pure lighting is just stronger than when somone makes it.
you don't get that it's infused with chakra and it's ninjutsu so preta will absorb it

it is only directed by sasuke he said it in his own words no it cannot be absorbed by preta which absorbs chakra and did you not see sasuke say that he ran out of chakra and itachi even confirmed it. and zetsu also says its not a chakra energy attack, what you are saying is that it can absorb nature which has not been stated in the manga but i'll respect ur opinion i don't want to start a war over this, but there is proof that it cannot be absorbed.

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[PEIN is the answer]

Kirin

Kirin is an extremely powerful lightning technique invented by Sasuke Uchiha. He draws lightning directly from thunder clouds to supplement the power of his strike and controls it with chakra. Due to the technique using natural lightning, which Zetsu says reaches the ground in 1/1000th of a second, it is one of the most powerful lightning techniques.If there are no active thunder clouds the user must create them by using fire techniques to produce the necessary storm conditions.Once a lightning source has been acquired, shaping and guiding the lightning to the target requires very little chakra. In addition, usage seems to destroy the thunder clouds as the sky cleared up of clouds after use. As such, this technique can only be used once in a fight. The technique can completely annihilate a mountain.



O no don't destroy a little tiny mountain. Pain knows 2 attcks that destroy entire villages can sasuke do that no so like always fan boys talking crap.

Ps go look at clips of almighy push destroying the leaf or planetary devastation engulfing several mountains and then you will be impressed more then this lighting bolt.

 

[PEIN is the answer]

lightning is an element but kirin does not use chakra he even said "i ran out of chakra" do u think he can create something that huge, no he did not it is natural lightning from the sky all he did was direct it but everything else is not chakra but thunder/lightning from the sky.

Here is the section on narutopedia about preta's abilities it talks about chakra absorption, does not talk abot absorbing things without chakra such as kirin.


This path's "chakra absorption" ability was primarily defensive, since it was capable of absorbing any ninjutsu-related technique, thereby nullifying its effect. This technique could also take the form of a barrier around its body, allowing it to absorb attacks from all directions. In addition to its defensive properties, this body's ability had also shown offensive capabilities, as it could absorb all the chakra out of any person that it touched or grabbed. It was incapacitated and petrified during the invasion of Pain after it absorbed too much of Naruto Uzumaki's senjutsu chakra and turned into a toad statue.

"since it was capable of absorbing any NINJUTSU-RELATED technique, thereby nullifying its effect." if Kirin is nijustu-related it can be absorbed according to your post so if it is classified as nijustu then it can be absorbed by defanition of pretas abilities In narutopedia.

 

[arv993]

"since it was capable of absorbing any NINJUTSU-RELATED technique, thereby nullifying its effect." if Kirin is nijustu-related it can be absorbed according to your post so if it is classified as nijustu then it can be absorbed by defanition of pretas abilities In narutopedia.

it does not use chakra and preta does not absorb non-chakra(also said in narutpedia) techs which is kirin, so can u pls stop posting crap on this site and dude stop double/multiposting all the time you are gonna get banned.

 

[suriya]

Sasuke because pain is weak against genjutsu and very important point is sasuke is good in genjutsu

 

[Rafeal brown]

There are a few problems with your theory.
Both Kirin and Susanoo are energy (one being nature energy the other one chakra)--which can both be absorbed by Pein.

Ocular based genjutsu wouldn't work on Pein.

You're assuming Sasuke would be fighting the Six Paths of Pein instead of one healthy fully powered Pein. That makes a huge difference in the level of fighting. Sasuke would not win against fully powered Pein because all of his best attacks can be neutralized or absorbed by Pein (which has already been shown to rejuvenate and strengthen Pein).

I didn't say they can't be absorbed but theres no way preta path can defend for six bodies at the same time so kirin will definitely kill other paths except deva and preta path. ''arv99'' have already establish the fact that kirin can't be absorbed so it doesn't matter anymore, susanoo can be absorbed but how will preta path get close enuf to susanoo?
Genjutsu is Genjutsu it doesn't matter if its visual or not, all we knw is that pain can be caught in a genjutsu as powerful as frog song so tsukuyomi will definitely bring any path down. Naruto withstood shinra tensei with clones so i don't see why sasuke can't withstand it with susanoo.
I don't get it, this thread is pein vs sasuke not nagato so what do you mean by full powered pain??