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Edo-Tensei solves that, also, you don't need to play the game. Orochimaru left the village some times ago, which I believe was ten years ago, ventured off into the Akatsuki, joined, then left.

Of course. I was waiting for you to bring up the "I can't win by myself so I'll summon better people to fight for me" jutsu.

Edo Tensei is a joke, as is all who rely on it for strength.
 

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Of course. I was waiting for you to bring up the "I can't win by myself so I'll summon better people to fight for me" jutsu.

Edo Tensei is a joke, as is all who rely on it for strength.
Yet Sasori makes puppets out of other people and obtains their power, is that not different from Edo-Tensei? I mean, they're both controlled with the user's chakra.
 

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Oro was after what Pein had - the eyepower of the Sage.
 

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Yet Sasori makes puppets out of other people and obtains their power, is that not different from Edo-Tensei? I mean, they're both controlled with the user's chakra.

Why bring anyone else into this debate?

This is about Orochimaru. I don't care about any parallels you think are relevant.
 

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Why bring anyone else into this debate?

This is about Orochimaru. I don't care about any parallels you think are relevant.
It's a statement, you mentioned how people bring up Edo-Tensei, and I simply compared Edo-Tensei to Sasori's puppetry considering no one debates on the fact that it's not entirely his power, if we were going to go by the same argument. It's his technique, it's his chakra coursing through their very being.
 

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It's a statement, you mentioned how people bring up Edo-Tensei, and I simply compared Edo-Tensei to Sasori's puppetry considering no one debates on the fact that it's not entirely his power, if we were going to go by the same argument. It's his technique, it's his chakra coursing through their very being.

I understand the comparison. I'm not retarded.

It's just moot, as comparing one jutsu to another does not diminish what I have said, nor does it add to your stance.
 

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is that all the almighty push can do? Orochimaru was smiling after that, with edo tensei orochimaru negs pein.

You should take a minute and think about Pain's capabilities before mentioning Edo Tensei. Pain can remove their souls.
 

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Yet Sasori makes puppets out of other people and obtains their power, is that not different from Edo-Tensei?

That's way too different, Sasori singlehandedly defeated all of the people that are now his puppets and controls them entirely through chakra threads.

Orochimaru summons a bunch of people that probably outclass him severely and simply sits back, since his summons are sentient. This comparison fails.

Anyway, don't know if Deva can solo him, but all 6 Paths will rape him (without ET being used). One thing's for certain, he'll put up a better fight than Jiraiya.
 

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It's a statement, you mentioned how people bring up Edo-Tensei, and I simply compared Edo-Tensei to Sasori's puppetry considering no one debates on the fact that it's not entirely his power, if we were going to go by the same argument. It's his technique, it's his chakra coursing through their very being.

Well Edo Tensei doesn't use the chakra of the user to have the zombies battle. They simple control them. Did you read the chapter when Kurama recognized Madara's chakra instead of Kabuto's chakra?
 

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I think orochimaru could've still fought,
He was tired after all. With sasori.
Tsunade should be a match for him too. Pein doesn't stomp anyone of the Sannin
 
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