Pain > Hashirama

[LegendaryAce]

agreed, everyone also over hypes Hashirama because of Madaras/everyone elses praise toward him, even tho we saw him as an Edo and he sucked

also just because he mastered 3 paths doesn't mean much..Madara didn't have Rinnegan in that fight but Hashirama had Mokoton, the fact Madara pushed him so far with EMS is impressive considering Mokoton is equal to Rinnegan and when both are combined you get So6P

Hashirama without knowledge of Pain would lose, even with Mokoton, that poison powder wouldn't affect dead bodies..it would be a similar situation to J-man vs Pain, where Hashirama could prob kill 2-3 paths but ultimately lose due to lack of knowledge on Pain

you say people praise hashirama...but there you go underestimating the EMS soooo much .. ems is the last sharingan activation (not counting rinnegan) and its suppose to be the strongest out of the 3 ...look and base sasuke and look at ems... look at itachi he trolls with only MS ..which seems so much weaker than the ems ....i dont get why hashirama would have problem with it (adit: he isnt god.)


also hashirama doesnt have 1 genjutsu ..he has BOD ...though has a tracking ability fighting blind is quite hard and there are also mokuton clones which will fill in for the lack of numbers .. and pain cant suck in the wood and can suck in the chakra ...unless pain can now suck it wood and shit then w3w...

i believe pain would lose j-man would have beat pain but he made sooo mistakes against him and ended up realising to late -

maybe just maybe? hashirama knew about the rinnegan? if madara knew i am sure he would have known 1-2 things about it this justme gguessing i dont kow nor do i have proof for my claim

 

[Kira was Righteous]

tsunade survived chou shinra tensei without katsuyu or using her seal. hashirama grows a forest out of the rocks in chibaku tensei and tear it apart.

Tsuande wasn't even near the crater lol That close to it reduced buildings made out of bricks so yeah shes is going to survive with mitotic regeneration

Yeah

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