Pain Arc Kakashi vs Jirayia

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The 2 strongest leaf shinobi at the time hence why they gave Pain most trouble, who would win? No restrictions
 

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Depends on how prepared Kakashi is to jump to kamui. I see him eventually sniping away Jiraiya.
 

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Depends on how prepared Kakashi is to jump to kamui. I see him eventually sniping away Jiraiya.

I don't see him being able to hit Jiraiya quick enough. Even if Jiraiya was charging for sage mode
 

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If jiraiya starts in SM then he wins low diff. If he doesn't, then its sadly a kamui GG.

But i don't remember Kakashi's pain arc kamui to be haxed enough to warp away a human body at high speed. So i'd go with jiraiya anyways.
 

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Kakashi beats Jiraiya mid-high diff.
 

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Tsunade was still stronger than Kakashi at that moment.
War arc KamuispamKakashi and Kaguya arc ObitoGhostKakashi are only Kakashi's that could beat Tsunade.

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Jiraiya takes this.
 

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Kakashi wins without much problems. Jiraiya is definitely stronger that part 1 Kakashi, while Shippuden Kakashi is slightly stronger than him, and War Arc Kakashi is far above him; DMS Rikudo Kakashi clearly shits on an army ot 1000 Jiraiya, but oh well.

In the 3rd databook is textually stated that Shippuden pre War Arc Kakashi is (at time before volume 43) Konoha's best ninja (> Gai, > Jiraiya, >> pre SM Naruto, >>> Tsunade). Viz scan. Kishimoto evidently considers Jiraiya as a Konoha ninja ( ) (you can see the Konoha affiliation symbol right above his name) and considers pre War Arc Kakashi as stronger than him ( ) (since he directly calls him "Konoha's best shinobi" at time of volume 43). Something that by feats that definitely makes sense.

Kakashi is much faster than Jiraiya is, he has Sharingan precognition and unblockable Raiton attacks, as Ranjishigami or Hari Jizo are certainly not powerful enough to stop him lol. So Kakashi can pressure Jiraiya with far superior speed, adding Sharingan precognition to better time his attack, and use Raikiri, Raikiri kunai or Raiden (well just Raikiri in Pain Arc) to cut through any Ranjishigami or Hari Jizo with ease, or Raijuu Tsuiga to fry Jiraiya, in CQC and at short range Kakashi easily kills Jiraiya. Kakashi is also definitely smarter and more versatile, has the elemental advantage (Suiton > Katon, Raiton > Doton, plus his own Doton; Doton underground lets him dodge easily Jiraiya's giant Katon in combo with Gamabunta, Yomi Numa is negged with Raikiri chakra flowing around, or preempted with Sharingan and used before Jiraiya with fast handseals speed and genjutsu, as he did with Daibafuku against Zabuza and as Itachi did with Suiryodan against Kabuto); has Sharingan genjutsu on par with Obito's, while genjutsu is one of Jiraiya's biggest weaknesses. Preta Path could dance around Gamabunta with ease and Deva Path was literally laughing off Bunta and the other summons' attacks ( )( )( )( ), so Kakashi, who is much faster than Preta and at the very very very very least as fast as Deva and who was holding his own against real ****ing Bijuu in the next arc, will definitely dodge every of his attacks and cut off his limbs with Raiton ninjutsu. Jiraiya is not making SM with a faster and smarter opponent pressuring him and even if you make him starting in SM, Kakashi would outperform him with a Raiton Kage Bunshin and then kill him with a Silent Killing Raikiri. Kamui is not needed, but Kakashi can casually end the match with it if he wants, there's nothing that Jiraiya can do to stop or counter it not that it matters, since by feats he is not even reacting to Kakashi's quick and skilled usage of his Mangekyo Sharingan. Jiraiya in SM had to run away from Preta, Human and Animal, when Kakashi without needing the Mangekyo could trick and corner, and more than once, the much stronger Deva and Asura.

Jiraiya never really fought the Six Paths at full power, since Fukasaku said nothing about Deva powers, that Kakashi had to discover by himself, hence Deva never really fought against Jiraiya, as he never used his Rinnegan powers against him. Deva alone > all the other bodies together. Nagato felt the need to send only Animal Path to fight Jiraiya. Jiraiya felt he needed to use his trump card, Sennin Mode, against only Animal Path. Later, in Sennin Mode, he admitted he was overwhelmed and with no chances to win against Animal, Preta and Human, and he had to run away and resort to a tactical move that was possible only in that favorable environment.

Kakashi was fighting Deva Path, the strongest Path by far, the one that didn't need to even reveal his real powers against Jiraiya, and still Nagato felt the need to send Asura to help Deva against Kakashi, with Asura probably being Nagato's second strongest Path. Kakashi managed to fight both of them, discovering their powers, tricking and cornering them not once, but twice, without any need to use his trump card (Mangekyo Sharingan). Kakashi would have killed Deva and Asura with no plot ****ing him: Asura was paralyzed and Deva had no klue on his position and just used his gravitational power: Kakashi could have easily silent blitzed him (like he did against Kakuzu) with Raikiri, or just use Kamui on him to warp his head off, we saw that his Kamui was already fast enough to warp away a missile, and a Shinra Tensei propelled nail with Deva unable to tell that he did: the Akimichi actually hindered him, because they ****ed up what would have been Kakashi's following attack to Deva, since they were too slow to hit him even with a surprise attack, and weren't unable to kill Asura (that Kakashi would have defeated later); they only helped to distract Deva and pull the chains that Kakashi already prepared to capture him, but a couple of Kage Bunshin (to attack Deva from left and right) and a couple of fodder Mizu Bunshin (just to pull the chains) could have easily do the same. Not to mention that your reasoning is very wrong, since Kakashi fought Deva Path who alone is far stronger than all the other Paths combined; not to mention that is so painfully wrong, when Kakashi fought Deva and Asura, not Deva alone, and as said without relying on his trump card (Mangekyo) managed to counter, trick and corner them twice, while Jiraiya, while using his trump card (SM) admitted inferiority to Human, Animal and Preta, and stated that if he didn't use a run-away strategy he would have died there.

There's nothing that Jiraiya can do that is a problem for Kakashi. Kakashi is a lot faster than him, has Sharingan precognition, Raikiri in his hands and weapons, plus other Raikiri variants to use in CQC and short range, Raiton Kage Bunshin, Doton fast travelling and Sharingan genjutsu, in CQC he murks Jiraiya. On a long range, he negs him with Kamui, he either teleports behind him and kills him quickly and silently, or just warps away him; Yomi Numa is preempted and copied before Jiraiya can use it thanks to Sharingan precognition and faster hand seals speed, or just ****ed up flowing Raikiri, with Raiton > Doton elemental advantage; any of Jiraiya's Katon can be easily dodged, and Gamayuu Endan is dodged by going Doton underground or with self teleporting with Kamui (4th databook states that Kakashi can perfectly do that as he also showed in the manga). Boss summons are laughed when they weren't able to even pressure Preta Path who was casually running circles around them and dodging their hits, Kakashi is a lot faster and lol he was facing real Bijuu; he sends a clone to mind**** them with Sharingan genjutsu or to cut their limbs off.

Shippuden Kakashi already surpassed Jiraiya, War Arc 3T/MS Kakashi is overkill. DMS Kakashi, well... lol Jiraiya.

Tsunade was still stronger than Kakashi at that moment.
War arc KamuispamKakashi and Kaguya arc ObitoGhostKakashi are only Kakashi's that could beat Tsunade.

OT;
Jiraiya takes this.

Lol what. Tsunade is too slow and predictable to even be a threat for part 1 Kakashi. Tsunade was stomped by part 1 Kabuto, who wasn't even serious against her ( )( ), who was only able to run away from a Kakashi that wasn't even using the Sharingan, and after that Kabuto again didn't wanted to fight part 1 Kakashi and ran away from him again ( ). Shippuden Kakashi even pre War Arc is much stronger than part 1 Kakashi, with the Mangekyo (even if not mastered at that time) and regained physical shape that powered up his speed and his chakra. Part 1 Kakashi dodges Tsunade with far more speed and the Sharingan precognition, feints her with a Kage Bunshin and cuts her head off with Raikiri. Shippuden 3T Kakashi dodges Tsunade easily with far more speed and the Sharingan precognition, cuts her in half with Raiden, paralyzes her with Suijinheki + Raijuu Tsuiga ( ) and then cuts her head off with a Raikiri kunai, dashes and destroys her head with Raikiri thanks to far better speed and Sharingan precognition, feints her with a Raiton Kage Bunshin, defeats her with Sharingan genjutsu. Or just activates Mangekyo and negs her with Kamui. Katsuyu and her acid are too slow to be a problem for Kakashi, and Kakashi just fries her with Raiton, Katsuyu's body is almost completely made of water.
 

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I don't see him being able to hit Jiraiya quick enough. Even if Jiraiya was charging for sage mode

Kakashi literally managed to activate Kamui without Deva's Sensing or Chakra Vision being able to detect it.

How does Jiraiya evade his Kamui snipe?

As for the topic, he defeats Base Jiraiya, but if Jiraiya manages Sage Mode, then he loses unless he resorts to Kamui sniping which is logical considering he admitted inferiority to SM Jiraiya.
 

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Jiraya forces Kakashi to surrender by menacing to spoil the intrigue of all the Icha Icha spinoffs.
 
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