Pain and Tobi VS Hashirama..........Who wins ?

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Rinnegan Madara did it.
Prove how that Naruto had Senjutsu.




It's the same ground you troll.
Now, now, don't be angry lol.Ground is attached.ST will never ever do anything to Mokuton.




Yes he does, just like how he blew away all those trees around killerbee.



Those trees get blown away again through the method I stated above
That's plain BS.Hashirama can elongate his trees.Nuff said lol.






Gedo mazo just absorbed all those ninjas life force including some of nagato's so you're wrong there. And this is nagato that's fighting not Madara.




Sharingan sees through all illusions, so nothing is affecting their vision in front of the all seeing eyes
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Even 2 tomoe can see through illusions
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Even Obito mastered seeing through illusions with his 2 tomoe
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And Sasuke said that a any shinobi who have the sharingan eye mastered a form of ocular ninjutsu. The he said it enables you to penetrate all illusions. So nothing was said about you having to master the sharingan at all. That's fanfic because you didn't read properly. Just by having the sharingan automatically makes you master the ocular ninjutstu.
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Kisame didn't know Tobi until he took off his mask.
And Itachi only shared the story that Tobi already told him.
All of this are literally fallacious, miscontrued, statements.
You know that Japanese don't differentiate between Singular and Plural?Which is the misconception here.
Shinobi=/=Shinobis.What Sasuke claimed was Kakashi alone being a master since they only have one word for both alternative language processors.
And you know one more thing?Sharingan has to copy a technique like Itachi did to see through Genjutsu lol.Like he did to Kurenai lol.Sasuke understood it's genjutsu because it was not directed at him.Just because you see through something doesn't mean you beat it.LOOOOOOL What?Itachi saw the real Madara which is why Masked face didn't appear.Why do you think Tobi's face appeared in Naruto's Brain?

LMfaoooooo.seriously.

Lol Obito saw through chakra in someone's body not genjutsu Lmfaooooooooooooo.LOL.


No he didn't. There clan are said to be geniuses. Even Sasuke told Orochimaru that.
Geniuses equates to blood?Lmfaoooo.Just because you steal Uzumaki's Blood's you won't get Life Energy.

Lmfaooooooooo.Nuff Said'.


Wrong. You're being stupid to think that Kakashi mastered the sharinan better than Obito. Kakashi wasn't able to use half of Obito's sharingan powers until the middle of the war arc.
Itachi never complimented Kakashi for mastering the sharingan. Masters of the sharingan have the mangekyo sharingan which is the highest power. Deidara and Madara never complimented Kakashi either. All they said is that he has a good eye which belongs to Obito.
All of this is wrong.Kakashi is the greater master and that'll never ever change LoL.







Kyubi never got pushed away because he anchored himself to the ground. If he didn't, he would've had broken bones like the Boss Toad summonings.
Nagato blows away Hashirama's trees since Yamato mastered wood style better than Hashirama.
Nagato gets destroyed by SS.ST cannot render physical damage.LOL.





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Six path black weapon rods immobilize edo tensei on top of that gedo can consume their soul. I didn't alter any meaning otherwise proof it.
For the first time you're right.I concede lol.






You didn't prove anything, you just gave an opinion.
LmFaoooo.All this is 99% fanfics.




No, it's because he has a real body and not a fake papered edo tensei one. Deity gates don't work on living people.
So.....Living things don't equate to Bijuu?

LmfaOOoooooo.Don't make me LauGh.:lmao:



I didn't read any of that in the manga or databook so that's a lie.
It's written.
 

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Prove how that Naruto had Senjutsu.
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:lol You’re questioning whether biju Sage Mode Naruto had senjutsu chakra? You want me to prove that he has biju chakra too while I’m at it?





Now, now, don't be angry lol.Ground is attached.ST will never ever do anything to Mokuton.
There’s only one ground so you’re not making any sense. Shinra tensei blows it to pieces.





That's plain BS.Hashirama can elongate his trees.Nuff said lol.
Now now, don’t get angry the trees are stil trees. Shinra tensei blows it to pieces nuff said.



All of this are literally fallacious, miscontrued, statements.
You know that Japanese don't differentiate between Singular and Plural?Which is the misconception here.
Shinobi=/=Shinobis.What Sasuke claimed was Kakashi alone being a master since they only have one word for both alternative language processors.
And you know one more thing?Sharingan has to copy a technique like Itachi did to see through Genjutsu lol.Like he did to Kurenai lol.Sasuke understood it's genjutsu because it was not directed at him.Just because you see through something doesn't mean you beat it
Lmao! This is baseless misconstrewed fallacy headcanon.

1.Sasuke NEVER claimed that Kakashi is the master of the sharingan, he didn’t know he had one until that very chapter. He only explained it through his clansmens use of the sharingan and what he’s able to do.

2. Sasuke said that shinobi who mastered the sharingan eye have mastered all forms of ocular ninjutsu. He said those who have it not those who already mastered it, because already having a sharingan eye grants you mastery over ocular ninjutsu just like how Nagato having the rinnegan automatically gave him mastery over 5 elements. Jiraiya didn’t have the rinnegan, so he wasn’t anlet to teach him how to use it, only basic ninjutsu in which Nagato used the rinnegan to master on his own.

3. He said that the mastered user have control over ocular ninjutsu, he didn’t say that it involved the seeing through all illusions because the sentence ends in a period before the penetrating part.

4. I just showed you kid Sasuke and Obito penetrating through illusions so you’re wrong once again :lol



.LOOOOOOL What?Itachi saw the real Madara which is why Masked face didn't appear.Why do you think Tobi's face appeared in Naruto's Brain?

LMfaoooooo.seriously.

Lol Obito saw through chakra in someone's body not genjutsu Lmfaooooooooooooo.LOL.
Itachi never saw Madara’s Face lmao looooooool XD

Obito saw right through the illusions, he even knew that they forced her to talk. XD :lmao: :lol
You don’t even know what you’re talking about XD


Geniuses equates to blood?Lmfaoooo.Just because you steal Uzumaki's Blood's you won't get Life Energy.

Lmfaooooooooo.Nuff Said'.
XD XD XD :lmao: :lmao:

Yes you do, hence why Kabuto transplanted karin’s Blood in the first place!!!! XD
My stomach, oh my god it’s so funny that it hurts XD

All of this is wrong.Kakashi is the greater master and that'll never ever change LoL.
All of this is wrong. Obito’s a better master than Kakashi ever will be because it’s his eyes nuff said. :lol
Nagato gets destroyed by SS.ST cannot render physical damage.LOL.
Shinra tensei one shits shinra tensei neg diff.




For the first time you're right.I concede lol.
I’ve been right. Go make a thread about shinra tensei blowing up SS and sharingan users seeing through all illusions and you know that I’m right.




LmFaoooo.All this is 99% fanfics.
Still waiting on those facts



So.....Living things don't equate to Bijuu?

LmfaOOoooooo.Don't make me LauGh.:lmao:
:lmao:
So human beings are made solely up of chakra like the bijus now?
Come on now

It's written.
Where?
 

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:lol You’re questioning whether biju Sage Mode Naruto had senjutsu chakra? You want me to prove that he has biju chakra too while I’m at it?
I want proof this version of Naruto was caught by Gedo Mazo chains, Because I'm sure it was base BM/KCM mode which got caught.






There’s only one ground so you’re not making any sense. Shinra tensei blows it to pieces.
SS is above that ground, and I know that it won't be crushed, because it's above it.






Now now, don’t get angry the trees are stil trees. Shinra tensei blows it to pieces nuff said.
Trees grow continuously, lmfaooooo.




Lmao! This is baseless misconstrewed fallacy headcanon.

1.Sasuke NEVER claimed that Kakashi is the master of the sharingan, he didn’t know he had one until that very chapter. He only explained it through his clansmens use of the sharingan and what he’s able to do.

2. Sasuke said that shinobi who mastered the sharingan eye have mastered all forms of ocular ninjutsu. He said those who have it not those who already mastered it, because already having a sharingan eye grants you mastery over ocular ninjutsu just like how Nagato having the rinnegan automatically gave him mastery over 5 elements. Jiraiya didn’t have the rinnegan, so he wasn’t anlet to teach him how to use it, only basic ninjutsu in which Nagato used the rinnegan to master on his own.

3. He said that the mastered user have control over ocular ninjutsu, he didn’t say that it involved the seeing through all illusions because the sentence ends in a period before the penetrating part.

4. I just showed you kid Sasuke and Obito penetrating through illusions so you’re wrong once again :lol




Itachi never saw Madara’s Face lmao looooooool XD

Obito saw right through the illusions, he even knew that they forced her to talk. XD :lmao: :lol
You don’t even know what you’re talking about XD




XD XD XD :lmao: :lmao:

Yes you do, hence why Kabuto transplanted karin’s Blood in the first place!!!! XD
My stomach, oh my god it’s so funny that it hurts XD
This is incorrect, because You cannot prove Genjutsu was cast on Sasuke and Obito lol.

Also, okay I know Sasuke said seemingly generally, but it is not, because You've to master that eye, not just possess it......lmfaoooo, even Nagato had to practice and master all 5 elements and Jiraiya's Jutsus, he didn't get automatically.

Lol, this is incorrectly incorrect. You're claimimg Obito can copy Hashirama's Genjutsu when there's no proof he even mastered it lmfaoooooo.God this funny asf.

Lol, noooooooo, what Itachi saw was Real Madara, itachi has eyes to look at the statue of Valley Of End lmfaoooo don't argue this cause I know I'm right and that is because it's fact and you know it lol.

Kakashi is stated as masterful user by Obito, who thinks his mastery is below Kakashi.

You cannot provide proof he can master it, if normal genjutsu won't work against sharingan then, kurenai won't use it, meaning, it works, and Obito won't get time to copy bringer of darkness lmfaooo, when all the trees are on his ass.

Karin's cells were taken lmfaoooo, not blood. Lol.
All of this is wrong. Obito’s a better master than Kakashi ever will be because it’s his eyes nuff said. :lol

Shinra tensei one shits shinra tensei neg diff.
Owner not necessarily master, he has to master that part of ocular ninjutsu lol.

Lmfaooo Shinra Temsei stomped by SS buddha.





I’ve been right. Go make a thread about shinra tensei blowing up SS and sharingan users seeing through all illusions and you know that I’m right.
The user seeing through all illusions cannot mean he can break it, seeing through is not breaking as I've been telling you for the millionth time.





Still waiting on those facts





:lmao:
So human beings are made solely up of chakra like the bijus now?
Come on now


Where?
Gedo Mazo works on living being, The reason Madara broke it was because Hashirama was restraining him with base mode, not SM, plus SM Hashirama completely tanked the Juubi's BijuuDama, which exploded inside the Red Barrier yet didn't crack lol, plus, Obito used Juubi's power combined with his to break gates, as you can see the red lights in his shoulder lighting up when he was, about to break it lmfaoooooooooooooo. XD

Databook states it, he can absolutely control living things.

Facts've been stated LmfaooooO.
 
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