Overlooked ASSPULL that saved naruto.

[Lightbringer]

Naruto made a clone though which then absorbed the Natural Energy.....

It's not like Kurama just popped out and did it all on his own. Naruto planned it and made a clone to gather Natural Energy.

Kurama already says in this scan that he knows what Sage Mode feels like. That would only be possible if he can sense and gather natural energy like Hermit Mode.

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[AlphaScythian]

Naruto made a clone though which then absorbed the Natural Energy.....

It's not like Kurama just popped out and did it all on his own. Naruto planned it and made a clone to gather Natural Energy.

Kurama already says in this scan that he knows what Sage Mode feels like. That would only be possible if he can sense and gather natural energy like Hermit Mode.

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Naruto made a clone, and via this clone the chakra got delivered back however this doesnt take away the fact Kurama pulled senjutsu on us.

@bold is speculation, which is also disproved with the fact that kurama knew naruto was SM user and even after kurama allowed to mix it with BM it has never provided senjutsu chakra to him up till now.

It said it cant be sensed, or are you implying kurama is currently at SM?

Kurama is pretty knowledgeable and may know the concept behind senjutsu to explain naruto.

It also knows about juubi and that its but giant tree even thou divine one thus would naturally have nature energy.

 

[Joe Black]

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Ok Naruto used kuuyibi's chakra, *shocker*. Or does it prove kurama is SM user now?
So is juubi conscious being, despite little intelligence, SM users are not pure nature energy like juubi. How does this prove SM user kurama again?
Im not saying kurama cant use nature energy now, it just wasnt using it before, nor overshadowed nor shit thus asspull.

Well at least you admit Kurama can use nature energy, so I guess I have to admit there are inconsistencies throughout the manga u.u

But before calling something asspull, we should try coming up with an explanation. Why couldn't Kurama, once being part of the Juubi, utilize nature energy? You say he never used that before: but we saw him in the sage stance, building up chakra. How could he have restored all that chakra in only a few minutes?
The real question is, as solo king said, why didn't Kurama's chakra affect Obito if it was senjutsu? Why did Naruto have to enter sage mode himself? Well maybe because Obito was the Juubi's Jinchuuriki, and Kurama was part of the Juubi, so Obito had a portion of Kurama's chakra too. Maybe that made him immune to that.

 

[RNITBmsage]

Naruto fans, fighting the good fight. Ignoring how Sasuke controlled the Bijuu chakra 'almost at the Sage's level', didn't use genjutsu, didn't use petra path on Naruto or his abilities, when doing that, he would have ended the fight from the get go. If Naruto had chakra from nine beasts, then Sasuke took it out to match it, and then I see Naruto fans created an agenda out of it. I cannot believe how stupid this lobby is. Like ****ing hell.

to be fair naruto was in a weakened state compared to sasuke
sasuke got extra bijuu chakra whilst naruto had rm taken from him
this fight isn't ideal for determining who is the strongest considering the circumstances

 

[Lightbringer]

Naruto made a clone, and via this clone the chakra got delivered back however this doesnt take away the fact Kurama pulled senjutsu on us.

@bold is speculation, which is also disproved with the fact that kurama knew naruto was SM user and even after kurama allowed to mix it with BM it has never provided senjutsu chakra to him up till now.

It said it cant be sensed, or are you implying kurama is currently at SM?

Kurama is pretty knowledgeable and may know the concept behind senjutsu to explain naruto.

It also knows about juubi and that its but giant tree over divine one thus would naturally have nature energy.

Kurama said in that scan I posted previously: "it's a bit different if you do it like when you're in Hermit Mode, though"

How would he know that if he hasn't experienced it himself? Besides, animals have already shown to be able to use senjutsu and Kurama has been around as long as they have. It's not really that surprising that he is able to use it.

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[Joker]

Wanna know another asspull while we're fueling the fire? Tell me how Sasuke absorbed Naruto's chakra, when he himself had no chakra. Absorbing chakra is an ability of the Rinnegan, so how can you steal chakra, if you, yourself have no chakra? They balance out.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Well at least you admit Kurama can use nature energy, so I guess I have to admit there are inconsistencies throughout the manga u.u

It sure can now, i dont how it crossed your mind that i denied last 2 chapters

But before calling something asspull, we should try coming up with an explanation. Why couldn't Kurama, once being part of the Juubi, utilize nature energy? You say he never used that before: but we saw him in the sage stance, building up chakra. How could he have restored all that chakra in only a few minutes?
The real question is, as solo king said, why didn't Kurama's chakra affect Obito if it was senjutsu? Why did Naruto have to enter sage mode himself? Well maybe because Obito was the Juubi's Jinchuuriki, and Kurama was part of the Juubi, so Obito had a portion of Kurama's chakra too. Maybe that made him immune to that.

So far there is no plausible explanation, nothing that kishi cant fix with upcoming pages like with minato but i doubt it.

to be fair naruto was in a weakened state compared to sasuke
sasuke got extra bijuu chakra whilst naruto had rm taken from him
this fight isn't ideal for determining who is the strongest considering the circumstances

Ok

 

[shelke]

to be fair naruto was in a weakened state compared to sasuke
sasuke got extra bijuu chakra whilst naruto had rm taken from him
this fight isn't ideal for determining who is the strongest considering the circumstances

Which is my point. To sling dirt on Sasuke while Naruto was running on plot-holes fuel is hardly credible.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Kurama said in that scan I posted previously: "it's a bit different if you do it like when you're in Hermit Mode, though"

How would he know that if he hasn't experienced it himself? Besides, animals have already shown to be able to use senjutsu and Kurama has been around as long as they have. It's not really that surprising that he is able to use it.

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Right, all animals we've seen till now all used senjutsu U_U

As already said kurama could simply know the concept of senjutsu, probably hence it said it different when one is in one.

Even sasuke who knew not what senjutsu was even after pathetic explanation from naruto knew he had to use juugo to fight Obito

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Wanna know another asspull while we're fueling the fire? Tell me how Sasuke absorbed Naruto's chakra, when he himself had no chakra. Absorbing chakra is an ability of the Rinnegan, so how can you steal chakra, if you, yourself have no chakra? They balance out.

Logical explanation is that Preta path doesnt need chakra to begin with?
Or that it simply needs very little?
Does wood dragon wastes any chakra of his to absorb chakra?

 

[Lightbringer]

Right, all animals we've seen till now all used senjutsu U_U

As already said kurama could simply know the concept of senjutsu, probably hence it said it different when one is in one.

Even sasuke who knew not what senjutsu was even after pathetic explanation from naruto knew he had to use juugo to fight Obito

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I didn't mean all animals, just that animals have been shown to use senjutsu.

Kurama was once part of the Juubi which is composed of Natural Energy and he can siphon chakra from the environment, which is something no one else has shown. So it's not all that unbelievable that he can siphon Natural Energy as well.

He is a part of Nature which is the requirement to sensing Natural Energy.

 

[Joe Black]

It sure can now, i dont how it crossed your mind that i denied last 2 chapters

So far there is no plausible explanation, nothing that kishi cant fix with upcoming pages like with minato but i doubt it.

I already told you about an explanation though :|

Kurama was part of Juubi, which is made of nature energy. Kurama also had a portion of Hagoromo's chakra [

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] so he kinda has his own chakra that he can mix with nature energy. But Juubi Jinchuurikis also have the same chakra so maybe that's why they are immune to Kurama's chakra. As for why didn't the Kyuubi's chakra grant Naruto SM/BSM, I already answered: Naruto didn't balance it out with his own.

 

[shelke]

I didn't mean all animals, just that animals have been shown to use senjutsu.

Kurama was once part of the Juubi which is composed of Natural Energy and he can siphon chakra from the environment, which is something no one else has shown. So it's not all that unbelievable that he can siphon Natural Energy as well.

He is a part of Nature which is the requirement to sensing Natural Energy.

If he can do it, then so can all Bijuus. This was a far-fetched plot devise.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I didn't mean all animals, just that animals have been shown to use senjutsu.

Kurama was once part of the Juubi which is composed of Natural Energy and he can siphon chakra from the environment, which is something no one else has shown. So it's not all that unbelievable that he can siphon Natural Energy as well.

He is a part of Nature which is the requirement to sensing Natural Energy.

So they are special animals then, they also are extremely smart and even talk.

Then when kurama was out of chakra vs juubi and gathered some (from the environment as you imply), why didnt BSM pop up?

Humans too are part of nature, everything is! This isnt proof of any kind.

Even if i was like yeah kurama is good enough to be SM user, this late in game is asspull nonetheless

I already told you about an explanation though :|

Kurama was part of Juubi, which is made of nature energy. Kurama also had a portion of Hagoromo's chakra [

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] so he kinda has his own chakra that he can mix with nature energy. But Juubi Jinchuurikis also have the same chakra so maybe that's why they are immune to Kurama's chakra. As for why didn't the Kyuubi's chakra grant Naruto SM/BSM, I already answered: Naruto didn't balance it out with his own.

Lets not start it over, Naruto mixes his own chakra with kurama's upon BM, thus if kurama was naturally SM user BSM would pop up.

 

[Honord Sage]

• So while Sasuke is rocking his Rinnegan like Hagoromo with his skill and talent...

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• And using bijuus he seized as they are but slaves to blessed eyes and are his trophy...

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• Naruto is being saved by another asspull as the scan below proves...

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• Now for those who dont get it where's the asspull - kurama has never been shown to be SM user and to absorb nature energy...

• No other biju shown this ability either...

• There was not even a shade of foreshadowing in all 696 chapters!!!

• What makes it even sadder is that it's not some asspull naruto pulled, but kurama, kurama has saved him again.
• Naruto has been riding kurama for so long he cant even walk properly with his own power U_U

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Im just tired of this poor protagonist writing




Conclusion: #AsspullSavedNaruto

Real Conclusion Sasuke ones more could not get the job done again,Sasuke the traitor, Sasuke the world biggest loser.

 

[Lightbringer]

So they are special animals then, they also are extremely smart and even talk.

Then when kurama was out of chakra vs juubi and gathered some (from the environment as you imply), why didnt BSM pop up?

Humans too are part of nature, everything is! This isnt proof of any kind.

Even if i was like yeah kurama is good enough to be SM user, this late in game is asspull nonetheless

Lets not start it over, Naruto mixes his own chakra with kurama's upon BM, thus if kurama was naturally SM user BSM would pop up.

Because there is no Natural Energy to absorb when he's sealed inside Naruto. Natural Energy comes from the planet. Chakra comes from the body.

And Fukasa already stated that one has to become one with the Earth in order to sense it. The bijuu are already naturally part of the Earth since they are just pieces of the Juubi/Shinju.

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[AlphaScythian]

Real Conclusion Sasuke ones more could not get the job done again,Sasuke the traitor, Sasuke the world biggest loser.

Did you really have to quote all that just to post off topic shit? Just cuz you hate doesnt mean you have to be retarded

Because there is no Natural Energy to absorb when he's sealed inside Naruto. Natural Energy comes from the planet. Chakra comes from the body.

And this wishdom comes from which chapter? Didnt naruto absorb nature energy from that special place where he tamed kurama and not even bijuu could get out? Did he not use SM when when he was on turtle island covered with all kinds of barriers? Nature and nature energy is everywhere, humans are part of it too naruto is not some kind of ward against it.

And Fukasa already stated that one has to become one with the Earth in order to sense it. The bijuu are already naturally part of the Earth since they are just pieces of the Juubi/Shinju.

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Just another speculation, Juubi is part of nature, kurama isnt, bijuus were artificially created, their chakra is not senjutsu either nor nature energy.

You know what? Stop pulling kishi on me U_U

 

[Lightbringer]

Did you really have to quote all that just to post off topic shit? Just cuz you hate doesnt mean you have to be retarded

And this wishdom comes from which chapter? Didnt naruto absorb nature energy from that special place where he tamed kurama and not even bijuu could get out? Did he not use SM when when he was on turtle island covered with all kinds of barriers? Nature and nature energy is everywhere, humans are part of it too naruto is not some kind of ward against it.

Just another speculation, Juubi is part of nature, kurama isnt, bijuus were artificially created, their chakra is not senjutsu either nor nature energy.

You know what? Stop pulling kishi on me U_U

Hey if that's what Kishi wants then that's how it is. There is no disputing his logic.


Besides even if Kurama didn't absorb the Natural Energy, Naruto could have just done the same with his regular clone without Kurama's help. The outcome would have still have been the same.

It's only considered an ass-pull because Kurama was the one doing it instead of Naruto's clone.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Hey if that's what Kishi wants then that's how it is. There is no disputing his logic.


Besides even if Kurama didn't absorb the Natural Energy, Naruto could have just done the same with his regular clone without Kurama's help. The outcome would have still have been the same.

It's only considered an ass-pull because Kurama was the one doing it instead of Naruto's clone.

There is not much logic in bringing something new way overtime just to fix some shit up - bad writing.

In all probability naruto would never amass higher amounts of senjutsu then kurama and so fast.

Glad you finally agreed.

 

[LeSauce]

Hey if that's what Kishi wants then that's how it is. There is no disputing his logic.


Besides even if Kurama didn't absorb the Natural Energy, Naruto could have just done the same with his regular clone without Kurama's help. The outcome would have still have been the same.

It's only considered an ass-pull because Kurama was the one doing it instead of Naruto's clone.

He wouldn't have nearly enough. I don't even understand how Kurama was able to gather so much when he was running low on chakra already. Aren't the chakra's supposed to be balanced.

 

[Lightbringer]

There is not much logic in bringing something new way overtime just to fix some shit up - bad writing.

In all probability naruto would never amass higher amounts of senjutsu then kurama and so fast.

Glad you finally agreed.

I only agree that it was sloppy writing, but I don't consider it an asspull.

It's really not that big of a shock to me that Bijuu's can absorb natural energy. I always suspected as much anyhow ever seen they shown Kurama meditate his chakra back.