[Discussion] Overestimated Fujitora

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Out of seen admirals i would say that he is weakest. But i think that logia trio was made to be cream out of all admirals.
 

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Remember that ability he used in front of luffy when he was playing that casino game in that restaurant at the start of the arc.
That is OP imo .
a deep hole which is pulling you inside it.
 

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Remember that ability he used in front of luffy when he was playing that casino game in that restaurant at the start of the arc.
That is OP imo .
a deep hole which is pulling you inside it.

zoro neg diff'd that shit.
 

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I agree that he is the weakest Admiral but I don't see either Borsalino or Kuzan easy diffing him.
I'd put him somewhere around Ace - Marco level.
I think Borsalino could extreme diff him and Kuzan mid diff him.
 

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Well he still fell in and got hurt.

Looks like it was a succesful attack

It's not very effective like pokemon. Another fodder attack just like his meteors.
I agree that he is the weakest Admiral but I don't see either Borsalino or Kuzan easy diffing him.
I'd put him somewhere around Ace - Marco level.
I think Borsalino could extreme diff him and Kuzan mid diff him.

oh ok but why the gap between kuzan and kizaru doe? the trio are equals. as if they are brothers.

if you say aokiji mid diffs him then so does kizaru. fujitora has the worst prep / reaction time ive seen regarding top tiers. kizaru easily blitzes him.
 

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What did he do to be "overrated?" He is just a clumsy guy who didn't show his full power yet because of various reasons. He is underrated if anything. He is fighting the number2 of the revolutionary who even got a power-up, and we talk about an organisation trying to overthrow the whole government. He should normally be stronger than pre-skip admirals if anything since it's said marines became stronger and it can only be possible if admirals were stronger
 

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It's not very effective like pokemon. Another fodder attack just like his meteors.


oh ok but why the gap between kuzan and kizaru doe? the trio are equals. as if they are brothers.

if you say aokiji mid diffs him then so does kizaru. fujitora has the worst prep / reaction time ive seen regarding top tiers. kizaru easily blitzes him.

I personally don't think they are equals...and brothers? o_O wth?
Borsalino is so overrated imo. I think Kuzan mid diffs him and Borsalino gets pushed to extreme diff.
 

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Who said meteors were the only thing he can do? You're seriously underestimating him!

-Being blind and an Admiral shows he clearly has the best CoA in the Manga by a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONGSHOT.
-His Devil Fruit can have so many applications, we've only seen the pull of gravity and levitation of objects
-Lest we not forget he's probably incredible with his Katana anyways

Yeah Kuzan and Sakazuki could beat him, but not easily! The fight would take days and days.

How can a light man defeat a gravity man when light is gravity's b*tch?
 

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I remember back when admirals wrecked shiiiz when they made an appearance..Remember what Kizaru did when he showed up? ...Fuji is strong but there's just something about him that's missing compared to when you see the other admirals in action.
 

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I remember back when admirals wrecked shiiiz when they made an appearance..Remember what Kizaru did when he showed up? ...Fuji is strong but there's just something about him that's missing compared to when you see the other admirals in action.
That's just a bullsh*t excuse from a fanboy because there is no way of explaining how light can defeat its master.

The thing he lacks is the role of fodderizing characters which don't use Haki. So basically there's no difference.
 

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I personally don't think they are equals...and brothers? o_O wth?
Borsalino is so overrated imo. I think Kuzan mid diffs him and Borsalino gets pushed to extreme diff.

kinda like zapdos moltres articuno.

Who said meteors were the only thing he can do? You're seriously underestimating him!

-Being blind and an Admiral shows he clearly has the best CoA in the Manga by a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONGSHOT.
-His Devil Fruit can have so many applications, we've only seen the pull of gravity and levitation of objects
-Lest we not forget he's probably incredible with his Katana anyways

Yeah Kuzan and Sakazuki could beat him, but not easily! The fight would take days and days.

How can a light man defeat a gravity man when light is gravity's b*tch?


I dont really get this light vs gravity thing.
According to Einstein's General Relativity Theory, light will be affected in the same way matter is affected by gravity.

So it means it affects the same as it would affect any other element such as kuzan and akainu or any other ordinary person... not just kizaru. So whats the deal with this?

I remember back when admirals wrecked shiiiz when they made an appearance..Remember what Kizaru did when he showed up? ...Fuji is strong but there's just something about him that's missing compared to when you see the other admirals in action.

yea exactly this. fujitora doesnt have that kind of impact. that admiral intimidation.
 

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I dont really get this light vs gravity thing.
According to Einstein's General Relativity Theory, light will be affected in the same way matter is affected by gravity.

So it means it affects the same as it would affect any other element such as kuzan and akainu or any other ordinary person... not just kizaru. So whats the deal with this?
Exactly. So Isshou can do crazy sh*t with Borsalinos powers. It's only going to give him an advantage because Borsalino will get a handicap, making Borsalino's defeat imminent. Gravity bends light (which is something it can't to with matter. It may look that way with blackholes but that is because of the light which gets bent). Isshou could make all attacks against him inaccurate (in Borsalino's case).

This is just one way in which Isshou can deplete the powers of the Pika Pika no Mi. Another would be that if Borsalino becomes light, Isshou can just bend, stretch, contort (etc.) Borsalino!

yea exactly this. fujitora doesnt have that kind of impact. that admiral intimidation.
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That's just a bullsh*t excuse from a fanboy because there is no way of explaining how light can defeat its master.

The thing he lacks is the role of fodderizing characters which don't use Haki. So basically there's no difference.

haha Fujitora is one of my favorite characters and I never said that Kizaru could defeat fujitora. Just cause Gravity>Light it doesn't mean that would be the outcome of the battle. There are many things that come into play in fights, especially in a verse like OP. Fuji just has a natural fruit advantage over Kizaru that's all
 

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Look what Oda did to someone with the power of rubber

and you doubt that he can't do more with the power of gravity ?
 

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Look what Oda did to someone with the power of rubber

and you doubt that he can't do more with the power of gravity ?

Uhh hes the main char? No matter wat fruit he has hed still eventually become the strongest
 

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Uhh hes the main char? No matter wat fruit he has hed still eventually become the strongest

yes and Fujitora is an admiral no matter wat fruit he has hed still eventually be admiral level
 

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haha Fujitora is one of my favorite characters and I never said that Kizaru could defeat fujitora. Just cause Gravity>Light it doesn't mean that would be the outcome of the battle. There are many things that come into play in fights, especially in a verse like OP. Fuji just has a natural fruit advantage over Kizaru that's all
Going by the basis that Fujitora will have an advantage due to the devil fruit matchup and it is very common belief that Borsalino is the weakest Admiral anyways...
 
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