[Game] Our loved Mangakas and their masterpieces Mafia Game #19

[SoulKiller]

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[Poison]

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If you are a scum, you better do that or ill be feasting on your blood by the end of the day.

 

[SoulKiller]

If you are a scum, you better do that or ill be feasting on your blood by the end of the day.

@bold
are you trying to say that you are wolf?

 

[Sagebee]

catch up and read and tell me who are you think is scum so far.

Will do you voted rej can I hear why quick?

 

[SoulKiller]

Will do you voted rej can I hear why quick?

read the posts I made earlier then ask me this question again.

 

[Poison]

@SoulKiller If I was, I wouldn't be announcing it.

 

[SoulKiller]

@SoulKiller If I was, I wouldn't be announcing it.

I am not sure about that honestly.

 

[Rej]

I like how SK values a vote on me more than a vote on moth, while agreeing with my points against moth. Yare yare keep it up guys. More for me to work once I am back from work.

 

[SoulKiller]

I like how SK values a vote on me more than a vote on moth, while agreeing with my points against moth. Yare yare keep it up guys. More for me to work once I am back from work.

Right now, placing a vote on you indeed has more value to me than a vote on moth. Looking forward for your work when you get back from work. Make it neat for me.

Also, just cause I said I liked one of your posts toward moth does not affect/change what my stance on you right now. Since, my vote has nothing to do with what is going on between you and moth. It is part of something bigger and grander.

 

[Rej]

Right now, placing a vote on you indeed has more value to me than a vote on moth. Looking forward for your work when you get back from work. Make it neat for me.

Also, just cause I said I liked one of your posts toward moth does not affect/change what my stance on you right now. Since, my vote has nothing to do with what is going on between you and moth. It is part of something bigger and grander.

okay, I like bigger complots.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Ar and lanmisa not big priority doubt mafia try get attention this early in the game

You and Luke I'm not sure about what happened between you two?

Just give your opinion about him and his vote on me.

Do you think the reason he gave on voting me reasonable? Do you think it scummy?

 

[Sagebee]

Just give your opinion about him and his vote on me.

Do you think the reason he gave on voting me reasonable? Do you think it scummy?

Have to read wait for a bit

 

[Poison]

Okay so, my Townlean at the moment is @LanMisa ,without ISOing and Quoting him out loud but I'm pretty much sure about it. His interactions ofc, but there is more indication of him being town. In the worse case, he is an independent but I hardly believe in the latter.

About me ISOing Red and Rej, they are the 'talkers' here, I don't think I'm physically very fit (I'm having fever and headache for two - three days now. If you think I'm making excuse, help yourself I won't even care to argue in that matter) for ISOing so much and I'm loosing concentration and getting distracted easily. So I'll be ISOing the "less posters" for the moment. And later on the "talkers" I wish to ISO everyone before DP1 ends.

 

[Poison]

ALICE -

Hello Folks!
Hope we all have a good game!

Hey.

She enters and her next post is giving reads directly without any interactions with other players she actually formed the following list. Which is a bit weird, even though you read other people's interactions with others to form, even if we consider forming them in your head but actually posting the reads without you interacting yourself is not a good thing I guess. It probably rings something like "I need to show my presence"

Spoiler: 2nd Post (The reads on others)

1. @All_Red - Entered the game in an at ease manner. Interactions with Lan was interesting to see and read. I'm slightly leaning you Townie.

2. @Rej - I can see that you're bidding your time and only observing. hopefully you're a townie rej.
3. @SoulKiller - Best Intro. The only player that I don't know if I wanted to be a Mafia or a Townie.

4. @Sagebee - MIA.

5. @Ansatsuken - Im still watching and tryng to sense the vibes from him. It will defends how much he wanted to win and catch the scum and how interested he is about the game.
6. @Elmage G Ace - Still early to give reads about you Elmo.

7. @Alice in Noodleland - Hi There. You ate too much turkey today. Please eat salad tomorrow.

8. @PaperBoiKonan - MIA. Who are you btw?

9. @mothbomb - My fave. please tell me you're a townie .
10. @Poison chan - reading her as a townie. that's the vibe I sensed from her post. and get well soon!

11. @TheLukundo - I need to see him interact with others more. so far null read.

12. @LanMisa- interesting actions with Red. But Im getting this scummy vibe from you. both from your interactions with Luk and Red. I need to observe you more
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13. @Naomi_Rose - Hope to see more posts from you.




im just going to post these quotes from Lan and Red's interactions. I found it fascinating because of the vibes I get from these posts. I added it for future reference .

Okay so her "Reads" I don't think they were of any kind. She just mentioned the player and went on "I need to see your actions" "I don't know what I want you to be a scum or town" "I need to see you interacting" "tell me you are a townie"

She gave a null - Luke, even she mentioned null for only Luke it applied to every other players in my opinion.
town - Poison , it is forced. My post was exactly something you call a summary. That does not make anyone a town. It is a forced read. I don't like it.
scum lean - LanMisa. Hmm, so you scum read Misa, interesting, cause I highly town read him. I'll take this as a note.

sorry for the misspelling or grammatical error. and Itseems like my laptop doesn't know me anymore.

That’s quite alright I guess.

@TheLukundo - I like it too. RNG God answered my prayers. Less pressure more fun to play.

@SoulKiller - now now now...hide how much you like Alice as Mafia player.

I don't get this at all. "Hide how much you like Alice as a mafia player"? Well at that point SK, had posted really less a number, which can be considered 'hiding' so is that a positive indication of you being mafia?

somehow I have this vibes that these interactions between Ansatsuken and Lukundo were staged. like it was a forced interaction. I could be wrong. maybe I just need to sleep.

Okay. So you didn't like Ansa-Luke interaction, and implied "Staged". Noted.

The Mind is willing but the flesh is weak.

I will try to catch up. Unexpected extra work.

But there are some interesting things i noticed while trying to read the thread last night.
Sagebee's post behaviour. Seems like being a puppet.



I will address it properly during my break time.

Okay, workload. Yup I can understand the out of the game life as I'm not doing very well either. But Sagebee who hadn't really posted about that time showed some puppet behaviour. Interesting.


To sum it up, you doubt
LanMisa
Ansa-Luke
Sage.

My views on you: you play like this for both scum and town roles. But you are above the neutral line towards the red one. Most of your posts are forced. So Scum lean from me.

 

[Rej]

ALICE -

Hey.

She enters and her next post is giving reads directly without any interactions with other players she actually formed the following list. Which is a bit weird, even though you read other people's interactions with others to form, even if we consider forming them in your head but actually posting the reads without you interacting yourself is not a good thing I guess. It probably rings something like "I need to show my presence"
Okay so her "Reads" I don't think they were of any kind. She just mentioned the player and went on "I need to see your actions" "I don't know what I want you to be a scum or town" "I need to see you interacting" "tell me you are a townie"

She gave a null - Luke, even she mentioned null for only Luke it applied to every other players in my opinion.
town - Poison , it is forced. My post was exactly something you call a summary. That does not make anyone a town. It is a forced read. I don't like it.
scum lean - LanMisa. Hmm, so you scum read Misa, interesting, cause I highly town read him. I'll take this as a note.


That’s quite alright I guess.

I don't get this at all. "Hide how much you like Alice as a mafia player"? Well at that point SK, had posted really less a number, which can be considered 'hiding' so is that a positive indication of you being mafia?

Okay. So you didn't like Ansa-Luke interaction, and implied "Staged". Noted.


Okay, workload. Yup I can understand the out of the game life as I'm not doing very well either. But Sagebee who hadn't really posted about that time showed some puppet behaviour. Interesting.


To sum it up, you doubt
LanMisa
Ansa-Luke
Sage.

My views on you: you play like this for both scum and town roles. But you are above the neutral line towards the red one. Most of your posts are forced. So Scum lean from me.

No bad ISO, I like it.
I will see if I can add up something to it.
Alice indeed forced some posts and it is indeed not a good tell if you bring nothing essential to the table. Her stance rn is also unclear I feel.

 

[LanMisa]

To shortly answer and react to stuff I saw or was pinged about:

1) Moth is one to tinfoil, yes, but I really hate your reaction towards him. Especially insulting his play. This is a surefire way to make me want to stop playing. We all play to have fun and if one cannot stay civil one shouldn't play.
2) I see Moths case on Naomi and I agree with his points. I do have an alternative explanation of Naomi having been talked into playing by.. Rej? and being simply not invested because of a which would make flipping her rand.
3) The game of Mafia is based on town working together to kill Mafia. Working together being the key word. If everyone distrusts everyone, Mafia has an easy game. Soul Killer questioning my intention of building up trust with a player I would like to work together with is pretty awful in that regard and the thought I only did this because Red was voting me is completely off the mark.
(for reference please check the Dracula game where despite losing to the Serial killer, the town core + Serial killer I had helped forming lynched four wolves in a row)
4) Lukundo dropped off quite a bit and I am not happy about it.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Rej takes issue with me moving my vote around and describes it as scummy because I am willing to lynch anyone. But my lynch targets have always been exclusive to people I scumread. he layer agrees with all my scumreads.

rej threatens me that someone maybe being scum is not gonna be enough

I think the issue here was not about you moving your vote oftenly but you voted a less active player(Naomi) without a good reasoning to accompany your vote. Check your post #120. Then you also voted SoulKiller without any reasoning at all. Your post #230. I don't know how something like that can be seen by many people as townie and not scummy. Because I'm Mothbomb all my actions are townie action, is it right? So how you can fault Rej completely here?

I think Rej is being logical here and never threatened you.

threatening a change in behavior wrt lukondo or else.

Wanting Misa to stop soft-supporting/defending Luku is reasonable unless Misa knew exactly Luku's alignment. That's a talking if Misa is town and not mafia. If Misa is Mafia and Luku is his teammate, that's technically defending team member but if Misa is townie and Luku also is townie, that's technically supporting his town member. But the problem here we have no clue about Misa and Luku's alignment. So there's no reason for Misa to soft-defend Luku unless both are mafia.

As for Rej's warning. I think it's unnecessary and looks like a cheap shot. A "cheap shot" that he will use later on as his vote reasoning if Misa still continue to support Luku without a good reason. If that really a scumtell I think it's not clear enough to tell. But that "cheap shot" is something to think about.

Threatening tone that hes writing it down.

How is that a threat talk?

Assumes that my commenting on his avatars cleavage means I am not town. this is a forced reaction to a silly comment.

Such a strange conclusion he draw there. Short minded and unnecessary.

threatens to cleave people, could be him trying to force claims out of people.

I think that's a joke from him. So far he never force anyone to claim yet.

Threatens to kill someone he cant read for policy reasons.

He said he's going to suspect and not kill/lynch. Did you just made something out of thin air? Aka false accusation.

Doesnt have enough impressions but calls elmage geniune and fits with past games. ????

I think what "impression" means here is Elmage's activity so far still not giving him big read. Not enough for Rej to read him in depth. But he found Elmage's approach came with the same tone like his other game. But Rej never Alignment Indicating(AI) Elmage. He just felt Elmage could be town. Could be he has compared Elmage's playing style as Townie and Scum in the previous games. I have met with many towns that straight giving positive perspective on a player that they find playing in a similar pattern. Far share of scum also.

But how is that a scumtell? Because TIM?

Gamblers fallacy here that if he argues with sage itll end up being v/v. Says he is curious about interacting with him
this post ooozes scumminess.

How you came to this conclusion?

Uses meta on red and poison, likes that they are trying, but then only gives them null.


VoteLynch: Rej

Yeah I'm trying to understand this part but I couldn't. I'm really unable to understand his line of thought in that part.

All in All Rej has these very questionable actions that can pique our curiosity and give suspicion but some of his actions also were reasonable.

I'm not gonna say all the Quoted posts a scumtell but some left suspicious feelings.

 

[Rej]

To shortly answer and react to stuff I saw or was pinged about:

1) Moth is one to tinfoil, yes, but I really hate your reaction towards him. Especially insulting his play. This is a surefire way to make me want to stop playing. We all play to have fun and if one cannot stay civil one shouldn't play.
2) I see Moths case on Naomi and I agree with his points. I do have an alternative explanation of Naomi having been talked into playing by.. Rej? and being simply not invested because of a which would make flipping her rand.
3) The game of Mafia is based on town working together to kill Mafia. Working together being the key word. If everyone distrusts everyone, Mafia has an easy game. Soul Killer questioning my intention of building up trust with a player I would like to work together with is pretty awful in that regard and the thought I only did this because Red was voting me is completely off the mark.
(for reference please check the Dracula game where despite losing to the Serial killer, the town core + Serial killer I had helped forming lynched four wolves in a row)
4) Lukundo dropped off quite a bit and I am not happy about it.

Then I am sorry if I was insultive to @mothbomb I just used some harder phrasing to imply that I actually didnt care for his vote/case as I could proof him otherwise once I have time. Sometimes thats me lol. X-x

 

[Ansatsuken]

I will look into other player post too.

 

[Poison]

ELMAGE -

Hello peeps!! Let's get this going!

Hey.

Lot's of stuffs to go through lol! Btw, for those who don't know, my timezone is GMT +1. Just woke up a while back ._.

Mine is GMT +5:30.

I find this curious. I'll come back to this later

Why are you interested in who gets lynched so early?

@TheLukundo might be on to something, I'll ISO Ansa before I give my thoughts

Anyways, just a note: I'm never really so active DP1, due to my play style, and will only vote someone when there's no reasonable doubt, or when we can't afford a no lynch

Okay, we'll you are not active at all, but to things to get rolling you must be a bit interactive and giving your thoughts maybe. Why not start with what you felt was interesting?

and will only vote someone when there's no reasonable doubt, or when we can't afford a no lynch

Why is that? It's like avoiding voting AKA avoiding suspicions.

Neither am I lol! RNG previously hit me with back to back mafia role, so I'm glad I'm town xD

Interesting.

@TheLukundo after going through Ansa's posts, I think what he's doing is consistent with how he usually plays, I'm giving him a town lean for now, but that could change anytime (as early as my next post ._.)

Because it's still too early? We should be focused on scum hunting

Good point!

Interesting interaction between AllRed and Lan

Like I said, I do more of observations DP1, it's just a little unusual for me that this DP is long >_>

That being said, I think @Ansatsuken @TheLukundo @LanMisa @mothbomb may be town, null reads on the rest really. But this list will change shortly I think. I also want to see more from @SoulKiller if he's not too busy, if he's town then that would be good for us, I've only played one game with him as serial killer though, besides, my style of play don't rely on past experience (except I've played with the person at least 5 times)

I basically have to go through my target's posts assuming I'm the one playing as him, the try to come up with possible reasons for his/her posts, it's quite difficult DP1 because the information is limited, but let's see how this DP goes, I may have a scum for towns soon

Townlean-
Ansatsuken
TheLukundo
LanMisa
mothbomb

I don't really do gut-reads in mafia game, statistically speaking, how effective is it? Just curious. I'm guessing it's more effective coming from an experienced player, but I'm not an experienced player, so you won't see me give reads, or vote anyone based on gut feeling. That being said, I will share if I find something interesting

Okay

I don't think I'll ever get to a point where I'm giving gut reads tbh, I'm a very calculative person, and I rely on that a lot, it's one of my defining traits (I'm a programmer irl) so yeah, while I acknowledge the importance of gut reads, don't expect me to give one, my style comes down to, "do his/her actions add up as town/mafia? Does it align with his/her personality?" no matter how we try to pretend, we can't really hide our personality, I've played with Michelle a lot for example, and despite her alignment, I know she's an empathetic person. Can't fake that. I also know that if I build a case and pressure AllRed long enough, I can tell her alignment, I know that LanMisa is a sensitive person, Alice seems carefree but she's quite observant when she's town, and so I'd naturally become suspicious of her if she didn't pick up things I'd expect her to, Ansa is usually direct in his approach, and moth seems more sarcastic when he flips mafia, and may try to draw attention to himself, and then focus this attention to whoever he sus(I'll need more data on him to conclude ._.) but below the humour, and sarcasm, he's a really smart player. So yeah, I slowly build a personality profile on every player I play for/against

I so far liked the metas. But what did your calculations say about the situation till now?

lol! Yeah, way to sum it up xD

Thanks lol! Although, as a result of my style, I'm often seen as mafia by some

Hmm....

it's almost 1 am here, I'm off to bed, be back in 7hrs >_>

See ya.


Well, i literally couldn't dig up much or literally nothing. Wasn't active, didn't really give much views but did give a town read only. No sus in his eyes. I'll wait for his calculations.

My views : Neutral. As of now.