Oro's Scroll, Sasuke Time Travel: An Alternative Theory

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It seems many of us were asking the wrong questions, it's not a question about where Sasuke is going, but When, This is all a theory, but it just dawned to me that Orochimaru's Scroll is actually a time travel jutsu

Chapter 574, P7


Suigetsu says "Orochimaru even considered something like this?!" If it was a way to unseal the Reaper Death Seal then Suigetsu would not have questioned why Orochimaru would even consider using it, since Suigetsu perfectly knows that Orochimaru's arms are sealed within the Shiki Fuujin, it's only natural that Oro would find a way to unseal his arms.

From Suigetsu's words : " "Orochimaru even considered something like this?!" we can conclude that the scroll has a technique so outlandish, so out of the ordinary (even in the standards of jutsu-using ninjas) that it evoked such a response from Suigetsu.

Let us proceed to this:


Sasuke says "this is it... the one who knows everything"

Then in the next chapter, Suigetsu said this:


Suigetsu was clearly baffled who Sasuke would want to meet, if the scroll has the ability to break the RDS and unseal the Hokages, then Suigetsu would have an idea of whom Sasuke was referring to (The Hokages inside the Reaper's Belly) yet Suigetsu was completely confused on why Sasuke would wan to meet with this certain someone or people. It could only mean that there is no direct mention of any specific person in the scroll. If it is Edo Tensei, then Suigetsu would at least have an idea that Sasuke wanted to speak with dead shinobi or his relatives. Meaning there is no direct correlation between the scroll and summoning/reviving people.

When Orochimaru was revived:


Orochimaru asks "Why do you want to meet them for" now I like to point out again that it's improbable that it's the Hokages, given Orochimaru's reluctance and doubts why Sasuke wants to meet "them" if it was the power to break Shiki Fuujin, then Orochimaru would not have deterred or questioned Sasuke in using it, since he would also benefit from unsealing RDS by getting his arms back.
In the same page Sasuke was thinking about Itachi, and Itachi's exact words are:

"You probably would have been able to change our father and mother... in the Uchiha Clan"

Itachi's words "you probably would have" denotes a possibility of Sasuke changing his parents and the Uchiha clan if Sasuke was given the opportunity to go back in time, surreal as it may seem, Suigetsu suddenly hands Sasuke a scroll that enables him to travel back in the past.

Orochimaru then says "You don't need to know all that, you're still a child" Oro is discouraging Sasuke again from talking to "them" because he's just a kid, mirroring Itachi's words in.


"You didn't know anything about what was happening at that time, you did not know anything about the Uchiha Clan's foolish idea, you were just a kid..."

Then we switch back to 593 p11


Sasuke says: "I am no longer a child, I can't be one anymore"
"what was the beginning?"

These are clear references to events in the past. The scroll could facilitate a way for him to return to the past and see everything that happened during the massacre. Now I'm not endorsing that Sasuke will be able to alter the past, what I am saying is that the scroll contains a way to view the past as a neutral watcher. This would resolve all the questions of whom Sasuke wants to meet, because most of the current holes on various theories are "this person is dead, or that person is sealed, that person is missing, etc." because Sasuke was able to time travel then he will be able to meet everyone and see the truth unfold before him.
 
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I feel like time travel would **** evreything up
They will step on a bug and when they come back there will be a bug revolution ....
 

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I feel like time travel would **** evreything up
They will step on a bug and when they come back there will be a bug revolution ....

Like I said I'm not endorsing the idea that they would alter the past, that the scroll would allow them to somehow view the past from a neutral-observer's perspective
 

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Great theory and well summarised in the following quote to people who get lazy and don't read the whole thing xd

These are clear references to events in the past. The scroll could facilitate a way for him to return to the past and see everything that happened during the massacre. Now I'm not endorsing that Sasuke will be able to alter the past, what I am saying is that the scroll contains a way to view the past as a neutral watcher. This would resolve all the questions of whom Sasuke wants to meet, because most of the current holes on various theories are "this person is dead, or that person is sealed, that person is missing, etc." because Sasuke was able to time travel then he will be able to meet everyone and see the truth unfold before him.
 

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Like I said, we aren't getting answers because we're asking the wrong questions, it's not where Sasuke is going, it's when
 

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well considering edo tensei is considered an abomination it would not surprise me what suigetsu said was referring to that.

And considering going back in time why go back in time when you can just edo tensei your parents and ask them what happened?

suigetsu also said sasuke could do what ever was on the scroll but sasuke said something to do with orochimaru can't really remember. orochimaru already knows the edo tensei technique so it saves time in learning it.

the fact it could change the fate of the war as well which you didn't care to mention that could involve reviving past uchiha.
 

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+ rep bro you deserve it.

good theory

PS: thanks broly i was to lazy to read :rofl:
 

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well considering edo tensei is considered an abomination it would not surprise me what suigetsu said was referring to that.

And considering going back in time why go back in time when you can just edo tensei your parents and ask them what happened?

suigetsu also said sasuke could do what ever was on the scroll but sasuke said something to do with orochimaru can't really remember. orochimaru already knows the edo tensei technique so it saves time in learning it.

I know but Owarij raised a troubling question to me "would Sasuke's morals make him use Edo Tensei?" since Edo Tensei requires living sacrifices and they would have to be killed in order to summon the dead, then Sasuke would unlikely resort to such an immoral act. Saying that Sasuke promised to Naruto not to kill innocent people or something to that effect.
 

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I know but Owarij raised a troubling question to me "would Sasuke's morals make him use Edo Tensei?" since Edo Tensei requires living sacrifices and they would have to be killed in order to summon the dead, then Sasuke would unlikely resort to such an immoral act. Saying that Sasuke promised to Naruto not to kill innocent people or something to that effect.

he has already entered the darkness although there has been notable changes with his fight with itachi against kabuto i am not to sure if he would be that bothered in killing innocents to find out the truth for his own resolve.

also if they are konoha villagers im sure he wouldn't be that bothered lol
 

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I think time travel would resolve a lot of inconsistencies with various theories of "The One Who Knows Everything"
 

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he has already entered the darkness although there has been notable changes with his fight with itachi against kabuto i am not to sure if he would be that bothered in killing innocents to find out the truth for his own resolve.

also if they are konoha villagers im sure he wouldn't be that bothered lol

Well, it seems to be out of character for Sasuke to slaughter innocent people just to have a little chit-chat with a dead person, esp. after being with Itachi. But I still hold the Edo Tensei theory in high regard, I'm just presenting the alternative to avoid the morality issue: Time Travel.
 

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Part with Itachi is false. He said that maybe Sasuke would be able to change his parents hearts by honestly asking them not to do it, Itachi had known nothing about this scroll so he cant have addressed to it....
 

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Part with Itachi is false. He said that maybe Sasuke would be able to change his parents hearts by honestly asking them not to do it, Itachi had known nothing about this scroll so he cant have addressed to it....

I'm not saying that Itachi knew the scroll, nor was I was saying that Itachi wanted Sasuke to time travel, I was just presenting the surrealism of the situation, Itachi being nostalgic and regretful about how he dealt with Sasuke in the past, then comes Suigetsu with a scroll that allows him to travel back in the past.
 

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I know but Owarij raised a troubling question to me "would Sasuke's morals make him use Edo Tensei?" since Edo Tensei requires living sacrifices and they would have to be killed in order to summon the dead, then Sasuke would unlikely resort to such an immoral act. Saying that Sasuke promised to Naruto not to kill innocent people or something to that effect.

You could see this as a reason why Sasuke revived Orochimaru, so he doesn't have to do it himself. (didn't say it was a good one)
I think we are all overthinking this, i'm kinda tired of it. Lets just wait and see...
 

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You could see this as a reason why Sasuke revived Orochimaru, so he doesn't have to do it himself. (didn't say it was a good one)
I think we are all overthinking this, i'm kinda tired of it. Lets just wait and see...

Like I said, this is my alternative theory to avoid the morality issue, if you've read my previous threads, I am one of the foremost endorsers of the Edo Tensei theory. :)
 

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Wow nice man

Im so glad you made an elaborate theory as time traveling. I was having some thoughts of time travel surrounding shisui, but now I am more inclined to think those thoughts.

My original thoughts were that shisui is from the past
And is how he got his nickname shunshin no shisui
And also why he has the best uchiha genjutsu

Possibly sasuke could time travel by seeing shisuis memories or something idk this is stemming a different idea
But same idea of time travel

So nice to see you think something like that too
 

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Wow nice man

Im so glad you made an elaborate theory as time traveling. I was having some thoughts of time travel surrounding shisui, but now I am more inclined to think those thoughts.

My original thoughts were that shisui is from the past
And is how he got his nickname shunshin no shisui
And also why he has the best uchiha genjutsu

Possibly sasuke could time travel by seeing shisuis memories or something idk this is stemming a different idea
But same idea of time travel

So nice to see you think something like that too

Interesting idea too.
 
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