Ororchimaru is the strongest sannin

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So first of all Jiraiya was at mount Myoboku before he met Nagato.

This means he already had Sage Mode before they were even in the 2nd great ninja war. Yet Hiruzen still thought orochimaru was the strongest.

Jiraiya tried to stop Ororchimaru from leaving the village, but failed. Meaning Orochimaru was stronger. Keep in mind at this time Jiraiya already had Sage mode.

Some might say that after that Jiraiya go better. Well I don't think so because Jiraiya was never said to have trained after he left the village. Instead he would focus on writing his books. While Orochimaru never stopped studying new jutsus.

Lastly Orochimaru was in the running for becoming the Fourth Hokage against Minato(who was a huge part in winning the 3rd ninja war) and the only reason that has been stated to why he lost is because of his crazy mind. This alone should prove how strong he was.

As for Tsunade(Sorry Tsunade fans I don't really think she has the potential to kill him) even though she is really strong I doubt she would be able to kill him

I believe this because Tsunade wasn't even a candidate for Hokage until after Orochimaru and Jiraiya. Jiraiya at one point even threatened her.
 
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He is stronger but the difference isn't as big as you say imo. Oro has some big weaknesses while Jiraiyya seems more well rounded.
 

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Tsunade is the weakest.
Jiraiya and Oro are on par with one another.
Hiruzen didn't kill Oro because he didn't want to kill his student. He left because Hiruzen told him he wasn't in the running for 4th. He was too ambitious.
Everything people say about Naruto Sasuke and Sakura is also true for the Sannin. Jiraiya and Oro were strong. Tsunade is the weakest. Oro is an *******. Jiraiya isn't.
 

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Tsunade is the weakest.
Jiraiya and Oro are on par with one another.
Hiruzen didn't kill Oro because he didn't want to kill his student. He left because Hiruzen told him he wasn't in the running for 4th. He was too ambitious.
Everything people say about Naruto Sasuke and Sakura is also true for the Sannin. Jiraiya and Oro were strong. Tsunade is the weakest. Oro is an *******. Jiraiya isn't.
Oro, with Edo tensei is stronger than Jiraiya and Tsunade.
But without it, he is not stronger then they.

Tsunade > Orochimaru > Jiraiya > Tsunade.
It was never stated that they were on par.

I don't think Orochimaru had Edo Tensei before he left the village.
I don't really think it's actually that Slug>Snake>toad thin, but I may be wrong.
 

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I believe Jiraiya at the time of the battle with oro did with naruto did and didnt want to really hurt him. plus his sage mode wasn't complete so it couldve went either way
 

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I believe Jiraiya at the time of the battle with oro did with naruto did and didnt want to really hurt him. plus his sage mode wasn't complete so it couldve went either way
Hiruzen had already stated that Orochimaru was stronger. might not have been incomplete, but even then he never trained it further. Hence why ma and pa asked why he still wasn't able to use it without them.
 

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kay

lets take a look at what orochimaru has done in series

1. perfected edo tesi justu
2.Had Senju dna stored in part 1
3. Gave danzo senju dna plus sharagin abilites
4.Beat hiruzen,which some praise as the best ninja
5.Trained sasuke
6.Made Sound five and others
7.Killed 2 kages
8.Was stabbed point blank by tokuta blade, and lived
9. Gave kabuto his skills
10.toyed with 4 tails naruto
etc he is boss.
Got owned by an 11 year old, always gets smacked around etc.
 

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We don't know what was involved in Jiraiya's attempt to stop Orochimaru from leaving, but it's plainly obvious that it wasn't an all out battle like the VOTE battle. So Jiraiya probably never even used Sage Mode, and we know he avoided it unless absolutely necessary because it "displeased the ladies".

Jiraiya probably wasn't considered at that time because he still had childish/immature aspects to his personality and the fact he was traveling most of the time.

I say Jiraiya vs Orochimaru is too close a call to decide on.
 
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