Orochimaru's true goal theory

[Lightbringer]

This my theory on Orochimaru's end goal

Make sure you read part 3




Part 1 (Facts)

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1. Orochimaru wanted an Uchiha body

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2. Orochimaru experimented with the Curse Seal in order to try to replicate Sage Mode

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3. Sasuke's body was able to handle the Curse Seal/Senjutsu

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4. Orochimaru's body couldn't handle Senjutsu

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5. Orochimaru experimented with Hashi's DNA

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6. Orochimaru has no interest in the war or the Bijuu/Juubi, thus it seems he doesn't care about becoming the Juubi's Jinchuriki and is more interested in his current experiments

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7. The Juubi's shell is the Gedou Mazou

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8. DSM Kabuto and Juubito shared a similar appearance

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Part 2 (Natural Energy)

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So first arises the question, why would Orochimaru not be interested in becoming the Juubi's Jinchuriki if it would grant him the powers of a god?

I believe there is another power that might be equal to the Juubi. Senjutsu

Senjutsu is the mix of Chakra(Spiritual Energy), Body(Physical Energy), and Natural Energy, something the Juubi is composed of and is susceptible to it.

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We've seen Obito be able to negate Ninjutsu, which use purely Chakra, but not Senjutsu

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Senjutsu uses External Energy rather than just plain old Chakra which is just Internal Energy.

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All chakra belongs to the Juubi originally which makes sense that you can't harm it using its own powers, which is why Juubito could be hurt via Senjutsu because Natural Energy doesn't derive from the Juubi, it is separate.

Natural Energy is the world itself.

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Part 3 (The truth about the Juubi)

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There are different types of Sage Mode's we've seen; Frog, Snake, Hashirama's Sage Mode, and probably other.....but they all use a certain type of Natural Energy




The Gedou Mazou is the shell of a Juubi and its true form is a tree(Shinju). The Juubi was said to be composed of Natural Energy.

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Absorbing too much Natural energy would transform the user into whatever energy they are absorbing.

Perhaps the Gedou Mazou was a conduit for Natural Energy, absorbing all forms of it which gave it the tree-like appearance in the end

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Summary

My theory is that Orochimaru wants to posses Sasuke's body(an Uchiha who is able to handle Senjutsu) and absorb all forms of Natural energy.

Thus, he will possess both the powers of the Juubi and the True Sage Mode, granting him immunity from both Senjutsu and Ninjutsu techniques.


Also by absorbing all forms of Natural Energy successfully, he will essentially become the same being as the Juubi without needing to host it, nor becoming morphed into a tree.

This would also give Naruto a reason to host the Juubi in order to combat Orochimaru

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[HiddenSound]

Could possibly happen, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Cool idea regardless

 

[scorezor]

read the summary and i agree.

 

[VongolaX]

In the data book, it also pointed out a chart of what relation each person had with each other.

Orochimaru's pointed to zetsu

So did he want to pull a Madara?

 

[Lightbringer]

read the summary and i agree.

I suggest you read the rest of it also....it's not that long

 

[Xlad]

Oro looks like he was fresh off the showas. Nice, I would like to see Naruto(Rinnegan or Juubi's Jin) vs Orochimaru (The ultimate shit).

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

No one truly cares but that Hidden Dude and Godly which is banded kuku!~ ​

 

[Penguin]

Cool ideas, even though I don't think they will be implemented in the manga.

 

[Lightbringer]

Cool ideas, even though I don't think they will be implemented in the manga.

when are they ever? lol

thanks though

 

[Flawž]

Hmm i believe something similar to this could indeed happen. Great theory nonetheless.

 

[Mattek2008]

Great idea, now i actually want this to happen xD. Good thread man! +rep

 

[Murasame]

It might be true remember this scan as well? But great theory

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[The Sach]

Great theory, I posted the similar

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, where I said that Oro will surely switch the sides for his own goal, ya Oro is upto something, and probably epicenter of his plans is Sasuke again.:yeah:
And btw would like to use some part of your theory to my next theory.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Which would lead to sasuke's death...nope. Good theory but sasuke isn't going to die...Kishi making plans for him to become hokage.

I mean why sasuke? Naruto is also compatible and also has a jin already...Does Naruto not possess this senjutsu? Is toad senjutsu the wrong one?
Lol I know you probably don't know the answers to these but I'd like to do some research your theory.

Its not that I care about Orochimaru...I care about sasuke and naruto.

I know there's another sage mode that the frogs mentioned...but who has the potential? Sasuke or Naruto? Sasuke body itself is compatible...naruto...idk wth he has to be honest. I need naruto fanboy assists. ​

 

[Lightbringer]

Great theory, I posted the similar

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, where I said that Oro will surely switch the sides for his own goal, ya Oro is upto something, and probably epicenter of his plans is Sasuke again.:yeah:
And btw would like to use some part of your theory to my next theory.

Thanks and be my guest, just make sure to credit me

 

[Tartarus]

An interesting idea, I've had a similar idea for Orochimaru's true goals. I think him and Madara have more of a connection than previously known. He somehow had access to Madara's body and he siad Danzo was a prototype to fusion madara. He also just so happened to be in the Rain country around the same time as Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegna.

 

[The Sach]

Sorry for answering post directed to someone else, but found your points interesting and hence decided to leave my opinion on them.

Which would lead to sasuke's death...nope. Good theory but sasuke isn't going to die...Kishi making plans for him to become hokage. ​

What about this, Sasuke will die after becoming hokage.

I mean why sasuke? Naruto is also compatible and also has a jin already...Does Naruto not possess this senjutsu? Is toad senjutsu the wrong one? ​

Answer is Sasuke is Uchiha, Naruto is related to senju. Oro already have senju DNA, target of Oro is making a 'perfect shinobi'(senju+Uchiha), and the best choice is Sasuke.

I know there's another sage mode that the frogs mentioned...but who has the potential? Sasuke or Naruto? Sasuke body itself is compatible...naruto...idk wth he has to be honest. I need naruto fanboy assists. ​

Both of them have the only difference is Sasuke is Uchiha, Naruto isn't.(Uchiha->Dojutsu,->Rinnegan), and on top of that it is easy to get hands on Sasuke, he is like 'black canvas', statement made by Itachi. On the other hand Naruto is tough guy, who sticks to his emotions, powerful at this moment and on top of that people have their eyes on him more chance of getting involved in battles.:yeah:

Thanks and be my guest, just make sure to credit me

Ya I will surely credit you, and send you link when I will post it.

 

[D R E X]

a well explained theory but this isn't original , i've seen many like this in the past

..nevertheless , it's an accurate form but i doubt some of that will come true .
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[Lightbringer]

a well explained theory but this isn't original , i've seen many like this in the past

..nevertheless , it's an accurate form .
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I know I've heard people say Oro wants to gain Sage Mode with Sasuke's body


but the main point I'm trying to make is why......why is Sage Mode better than becoming a Juubi's Jinchuriki?

but thanks for reading, I'm glad you liked it.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Sorry for answering post directed to someone else, but found your points interesting and hence decided to leave my opinion on them.

What about this, Sasuke will die after becoming hokage.

Answer is Sasuke is Uchiha, Naruto is related to senju. Oro already have senju DNA, target of Oro is making a 'perfect shinobi'(senju+Uchiha), and the best choice is Sasuke.


Both of them have the only difference is Sasuke is Uchiha, Naruto isn't.(Uchiha->Dojutsu,->Rinnegan), and on top of that it is easy to get hands on Sasuke, he is like 'black canvas', statement made by Itachi. On the other hand Naruto is tough guy, who sticks to his emotions, powerful at this moment and on top of that people have their eyes on him more chance of getting involved in battles.:yeah:

Ya I will surely credit you, and send you link when I will post it.

See that...most interesting mfs:

Anyways....sasuke isn't a blank canvas anymore..if he was he would have join madara. He's on his own side.
Sasuke isn't going to die...it wouldn't even fit the series kind of mood either...no one important has died so why would a person as important as sasuke die?

Wouldn't make sense. ESPECIALLY since shiki came back to life. ​