[Discussion] Orochimaru

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Haha well u seem to have made up your mind. I guess u hate the guy oh well.

But for the record...
Jiraiya never beat Orochimaru. Oro with no arms fought against Tsunade and Jiraiya and held his own. He toyed with 4tails and came out of it with only exhaustion, while Jiraiya did the same and almost died. Kakashi was scared shtless when he decided to fight him. Who else scared Kakashi like that? Madara. And last, he formulated an entire attack against Konoha and was almost successful in destroying it. Who else we know attempted that to such a degree? Pain, and Madara. Oh and Manda can wtfpawn any summon that we have seen so far. Orochimaru is serious dude... hate his personality but he is smart, cunning and strong. Good traits for a ninja
J-man vs Oro was actualy wtf battle, i was shocked he didnt go in Sage mode, more like Filler fight
 

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That's not a fight Minato Vs Oro. Minato will kick his old ass to the ground.

Minato is to much for him. Oro's edo tensei was weak. He brought back 2 hokages to face an old man and they still couldn't kill him.
Hashirama made mincemeat out of most of every shinobi he faced even Madara. Every time they fought it was always Hashirama who won and Madara was one of the strongest to ever live. But when he was brought back he seemed to be like an average high Jounin.

Minato against his edo tensei would find a way to remove the souls. Without death. oro can't fight Minato in taijutsu and Minato's speed out ranks him hell even Minato's jutsus looks to be more powerful. Every jutsu can be defeated.

Sarutobi did a good job in electing Minato. What would Oro have done during this disaster. Against Tobi and the kyuubi. The sharingan is Oro's weakness.
 
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Oro is recless, he was defeated 4 times... just one very well performed jutsu can cost him life, without using any of his forbidden jutsus. he lost all battles shown 1 on 1, and u cant say it was unfair, surviving is one part of Nin path, u cant hide 100 years learning techs and come out when ur complite :D its lame, Oro is pathetic, he knows alot but he still sucks..
no he was beaten 2 times

One by itachi who caught him off guard with Genjutsu before Oro attacked him

and 2 by Itachi who use the Sword of cheapness if Sussano'o did not have that sword who knows how long the fight would have gone on for
 

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no he was beaten 2 times

One by itachi who caught him off guard with Genjutsu before Oro attacked him

and 2 by Itachi who use the Sword of cheapness if Sussano'o did not have that sword who knows how long the fight would have gone on for
lmao "the sword of cheapness" boy u guys make me laugh. I like Itachi alot, but his sword and shield are cheap indeed.
 

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J-man vs Oro was actualy wtf battle, i was shocked he didnt go in Sage mode, more like Filler fight
but it was a real fight not a filler fight Oro was beating him sage mode would not have even changed the fight around Oro is immune to Taijutsu so frog kata's are useless and if Jiraiya tried to use sage mode Oro would have seen through it

Oro also beat Jiraiya back in the past when he left Konoha this was after Jiraiya knew sage mode Jiraiya was on the ground beaten and Oro was walking away

That's not a fight Minato Vs Oro. Minato will kick his old ass to the ground.

Minato is to much for him. Oro's edo tensei was weak. He brought back 2 hokages to face an old man and they still couldn't kill him.
Hashirama made mincemeat out of most of every shinobi he faced even Madara. Every time they fought it was always Hashirama who won and Madara was one of the strongest to ever live. But when he was brought back he seemed to be like an average high Jounin.

Minato against his edo tensei would find a way to remove the souls. Without death. oro can't fight Minato in taijutsu and Minato's speed out ranks him hell even Minato's jutsus looks to be more powerful. Every jutsu can be defeated.

Sarutobi did a good job in electing Minato. What would Oro have done during this disaster. Against Tobi and the kyuubi. The sharingan is Oro's weakness.
last time I checked his Edo tensei was beating the 3rd (the most powerful Hokage) and it forced him to use a suicide attack that did not even kill Oro

how would Minato find away to remove the souls the only thing we know that Minato can do to remove the souls is the death tech

Oro is immune to Taijutsu and is fast him self Oro knows more Jutsu then anyoone else in the series and we have never seen him fight seriously and he has only used like 20 of the 1000's of jutsu he knows so Oro beats him in the jutsu department plus Oro is smarter then the 4th and Oro is a master of Genjutsu taking a perfect 5 in the catagory
 

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but it was a real fight not a filler fight Oro was beating him sage mode would not have even changed the fight around Oro is immune to Taijutsu so frog kata's are useless and if Jiraiya tried to use sage mode Oro would have seen through it

Oro also beat Jiraiya back in the past when he left Konoha this was after Jiraiya knew sage mode Jiraiya was on the ground beaten and Oro was walking away



last time I checked his Edo tensei was beating the 3rd (the most powerful Hokage) and it forced him to use a suicide attack that did not even kill Oro

how would Minato find away to remove the souls the only thing we know that Minato can do to remove the souls is the death tech

Oro is immune to Taijutsu and is fast him self Oro knows more Jutsu then anyoone else in the series and we have never seen him fight seriously and he has only used like 20 of the 1000's of jutsu he knows so Oro beats him in the jutsu department plus Oro is smarter then the 4th and Oro is a master of Genjutsu taking a perfect 5 in the catagory
immune to taijutsu.. okay.. but what happens when a rasengan hits him after minto uses FTG? and we don't know all of minato's moves yet either..
 

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lmao "the sword of cheapness" boy u guys make me laugh. I like Itachi alot, but his sword and shield are cheap indeed.
heh, k... im not in mood to flame about Oro anymore, since his not worth my time :D but il say one more thing, calling his sword and shild cheep is actualy nonsence, Oro in that case also has Cheap forbidden jutsus tho (atleast he didnt spend whole his life on serching for smth Oro failed till now (Rock n Roll babe))...and also Itachi dont need to preform 100 Jutsus to take someone down, so far he does it in One hit :D bamm.. and so would Minato, if Tobis Sharingan couldnt track Minato, than oro will just get backstabbed in a Flash and get flushed :D
 

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Orochimaro was a genius and the third hokage was proud of him in this, but he could see that orochimaros heart was tainted with evil - he tried to stray him off that path, but unfortunately he couldnt, neither could Jiraya!!

If only Orochimaro wasnt evil - the third hokage would have most likely pick him to be hokage!!
 
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heh, k... im not in mood to flame about Oro anymore, since his not worth my time :D but il say one more thing, calling his sword and shild cheep is actualy nonsence, Oro in that case also has Cheap forbidden jutsus tho (atleast he didnt spend whole his life on serching for smth Oro failed till now (Rock n Roll babe))...and also Itachi dont need to preform 100 Jutsus to take someone down, so far he does it in One hit :D bamm.. and so would Minato, if Tobis Sharingan couldnt track Minato, than oro will just get backstabbed in a Flash and get flushed :D
Itachi is better than Orochimaru. Yeah I know that. They're both geniuses, but Itachi was born into a priviledged clan. I don't take that away from him but....
if a stab can seal u in a bottle for good, and a shield can truly block EVERYTHING... then it is cheap, end of story.
Yes Minato will beat Orochimaru, but u fail to see the genius and potential of Oro. He is not pathetic like u say, and most will agree on that. That is all
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Itachi is better than Orochimaru. Yeah I know that. They're both geniuses, but Itachi was born into a priviledged clan. I don't take that away from him but....
if a stab can seal u in a bottle for good, and a shield can truly block EVERYTHING... then it is cheap, end of story.
Yes Minato will beat Orochimaru, but u fail to see the genius and potential of Oro. He is not pathetic like u say, and most will agree on that. That is all
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i know, its just i disslike him (alot) no hard feelings ))) and im glad u dont flame me as most BR?s usualy do when someone dont share same point of view or have difrent thouths, its not as me or u are wrong, we just see things difrent, Oro ofc is ginious, but in my eyes his also a fool, and nowhere near to Itachi, by Attitude, by way of he doing things, Itachi didnt fail once, Oro failed alot :D
 

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i know, its just i disslike him (alot) no hard feelings ))) and im glad u dont flame me as most BR?s usualy do when someone dont share same point of view or have difrent thouths, its not as me or u are wrong, we just see things difrent, Oro ofc is ginious, but in my eyes his also a fool, and nowhere near to Itachi, by Attitude, by way of he doing things, Itachi didnt fail once, Oro failed alot :D
Ya I understand. One thing tho, when you're comparing characters, it's good to leave the bias to the side. To be honest, I used to HATE Orochimaru as well. But then I realized his reputation deserved respect, because of the many things he has done and bcuz mostly everyone fears him. I agree Itachi is better.
Yeah I don't flame ppl for disagreeing, I just try to understand them. After all, I come on this site to talk about this amazing anime and its amazing characters.
Cheers
 

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Ya I understand. One thing tho, when you're comparing characters, it's good to leave the bias to the side. To be honest, I used to HATE Orochimaru as well. But then I realized his reputation deserved respect, because of the many things he has done and bcuz mostly everyone fears him. I agree Itachi is better.
Yeah I don't flame ppl for disagreeing, I just try to understand them. After all, I come on this site to talk about this amazing anime and its amazing characters.
Cheers
so true! oro sure was cool in flashbacks in past, but i think the late orochimaru was abit, fool as i said before, also itachi has his fails, like his death i find it dissapointing.....for such nin to die.....couse of desease? :| **** me honestly
 

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immune to taijutsu.. okay.. but what happens when a rasengan hits him after minto uses FTG? and we don't know all of minato's moves yet either..
then Oro gets back up like I said he is immune to Physical attacks the rasengan would knock him down he would get back up or Just spit out a fully healed body

he also has his Kusagari sword Unbreakable and can damage diamond he also has Hydra Mode were he turns into a giant Hydra that will rejenerate from all wounds and he can pop out of any head and use a jutsu or his sword

Minato would problely win the fight most of the time but he would not win too easily the fight would go on for a while and one of them would retreat before the fight ended i bet but Minato would probley make Oro retreat most of the time
 
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