Orochimaru went from kage level to jounin level ninja.

[DrProof]

Zetsu bodies are quite strong, they are harvested from the 1st's DNA cells. The problem is they don't have a lot of ninja training or experience so they are basically genins in very strong adult bodies. I think Orochimaru will make the most out of having Senju DNA. That fodder guy he took over at the end of part 1 wasn't that good either but he made the most of it and even beat the 4 tail Naruto.

This. Repped.

 

[Frikid]

Thing is.. You can't compare a plain old Zetsu clone with abilities to which Orochimaru didn't have to the one hosting Orochimaru at this very moment.. Orochimaru has tons of jutsu, while a regular zetsu has very few, plus Orochimaru still kept his original techniques, how can you claim such a false statement? Orochimaru jounin level? Laughable at best...

Lol most of his jutsu are snake related , since he have changed his body, he have to make seal contract with snakes again to do that.
His wind jutsus wont work in zetsu body.
Also zetsu body have very less chakra in it.
Because orochimaru is in the body that is why i said jounin level, otherwise a zetsu is actually high chunin level.

Lol don't be mad, i've only joined up and i've seen one of his threads. I agreed with him and that instantly awards me fanboy status?
Ever so sorry.
Take it up with him, he's the one pointing out the flaws in your argument, not me.

what you were doing is considered a$$-licking. you are new so you don't know about me. You apology has been accepted

Zetsu bodies are quite strong, they are harvested from the 1st's DNA cells. The problem is they don't have a lot of ninja training or experience so they are basically genins in very strong adult bodies. I think Orochimaru will make the most out of having Senju DNA. That fodder guy he took over at the end of part 1 wasn't that good either but he made the most of it and even beat the 4 tail Naruto.

If you read the thread, i have shown you, sakura one shotted a zetsu, sasuke one shotted above 20 zetsus.
even random fodders who survived till now had defeated countless zetsus otherwise they wouldn't be alive.

 

[DrProof]

Lol most of his jutsu are snake related , since he have changed his body, he have to make seal contract with snakes again to do that.
His wind jutsus wont work in zetsu body.
Also zetsu body have very less chakra in it.
Because orochimaru is in the body that is why i said jounin level, otherwise a zetsu is actually high chunin level.

Dude I'm done arguing with you, you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm still deciding if I should deconstruct your whole thread.

 

[naruto sennin]

You r stupid man, the zetsu body have him all hashirama's cells . It also gave him the ability to switch vessels easily since the zetsu's can be cloned so easily. It was a major power up.

 

[Frikid]

Dude I'm done arguing with you, you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm still deciding if I should deconstruct your whole thread.

Zetsu = mokuton = suiton + doton = no wind nature techs.
Oro only shows snake related jutsu in manga maybe coz his hands are sealed , since blood is required in summoning , and his blood have changed, summoning aren't gonna work.
As stated in OP, Zetsu are weaker version hashi clones, so they have low chakra by default.

Do i have to feed you with the spoon ? come on man!

 

[Horus]

Zetsu bodies are quite strong, they are harvested from the 1st's DNA cells. The problem is they don't have a lot of ninja training or experience so they are basically genins in very strong adult bodies. I think Orochimaru will make the most out of having Senju DNA. That fodder guy he took over at the end of part 1 wasn't that good either but he made the most of it and even beat the 4 tail Naruto.

I agree with this

 

[Omnipotent]

Nah.
Zetsu bodies are still above that fodder he took over in Part 1. Not just Senju DNA, but the hacked Senju DNA that is Hashirama's DNA that turned Yamato from a civilian into an ANBU-captain.

And now that he can use jutsu and has the Edo Hokage at his disposal (unconfirmed), he's in his prime.

 

[wargear]

Due to this theory Obito as well is a Jounin level ninja.. I'm sorry but this is a big NO.

Logical and totally correct.

 

[lsgteam]

You think Zetsu bodies are weak hence they die from Amaterasu? fail xD

 

[silmarill]

Haters gonna hate. and Zlad you seem to be hating a lot kiddo.

*makes 20 alts to troll and calls others kiddo*

 

[Draegod]

You do know he took a fodder gurl and some random cm user bodys before right?

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As you can see when he took there bodis, he never went "bawards" nor did he get weak or lose power. He simply took there body and put his powers in them. There powers is an extra added bonus, facts from the manga!

To futher prove my point and end all doubts. Once sasuke took the weaken sick, no ninjutsu Oru body... Did he get weak???... Could he not use ninjutsu aswell???.... NO! Sasuke stayed the same and actually got stronger with the added Oru benefites from gaining his body!

Moral is: Oru is still Oru, but has all the powers of his victims added in him. Think about it like this...

After he takes sasuke body, he will still have 3 years to switch, but he will always keep sasukes Power/Sharigan!

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As you can see here, he took many random "fodders" and never got weaker.

 

[KidGamer65]

So, Random Fodder's bodies>Zetsu Bodies? Laughable at best.

"Sasuke eats zetsu in his breakfast,"

He one shotted them via Enton Magatama and an Enton Blade. ANYONE who took a hit from those techniques would be killed so that comparison is moot.

"Even Sakura one shotted zetsu"

Again, Sakura has chakra enhanced strength learned from Tsunade, almost anyone who took a direct hit from that would die.

Being Zetsu's body gives him access to Mokuton (Low scale Mokuton) Mayfly (Merge with the ground and travel at high speed), Zetsu bodies have shown auto healing capabilities. He can use the Spore Technique which absorbs the enemies chakra and transfers it to himself. He can also use his Parasitic Clones along with the Substitution Technique to copy an opponents abilities, chakra signature and appearance. Not to mention he is in a body made from Hashirama's DNA which will increase his stamina and energy.

And he still has access his original techniques and he can make the modifications he made to the other bodies, to this one.

Zetsu Oro>Any other Oro

 

[Stark]

Well, at least this thread is better than your threads

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Lolol

 

[warlee]

To the title NOPE he can still use all of the jutsus he knows (since he used a s-rank forbidden jutsu) so i don't see how he powere'd down to high jounin.

 

[Amaterasuice]

You do know he took a fodder gurl and some random cm user bodys before right?

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As you can see when he took there bodis, he never went "bawards" nor did he get weak or lose power. He simply took there body and put his powers in them. There powers is an extra added bonus, facts from the manga!

To futher prove my point and end all doubts. Once sasuke took the weaken sick, no ninjutsu Oru body... Did he get weak???... Could he not use ninjutsu aswell???.... NO! Sasuke stayed the same and actually got stronger with the added Oru benefites from gaining his body!

Moral is: Oru is still Oru, but has all the powers of his victims added in him. Think about it like this...

After he takes sasuke body, he will still have 3 years to switch, but he will always keep sasukes Power/Sharigan!

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As you can see here, he took many random "fodders" and never got weaker.

This^. He doesn't lose powers, he keeps his own and adds the other's.

So, it's full power oro+arms+Zetsu clone= On par with Itachi or maybe even stronger. Without edos.

 

[Frikid]

You do know he took a fodder gurl and some random cm user bodys before right?

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As you can see when he took there bodis, he never went "bawards" nor did he get weak or lose power. He simply took there body and put his powers in them. There powers is an extra added bonus, facts from the manga!

To futher prove my point and end all doubts. Once sasuke took the weaken sick, no ninjutsu Oru body... Did he get weak???... Could he not use ninjutsu aswell???.... NO! Sasuke stayed the same and actually got stronger with the added Oru benefites from gaining his body!

Moral is: Oru is still Oru, but has all the powers of his victims added in him. Think about it like this...

After he takes sasuke body, he will still have 3 years to switch, but he will always keep sasukes Power/Sharigan!

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As you can see here, he took many random "fodders" and never got weaker.

So, Random Fodder's bodies>Zetsu Bodies? Laughable at best.

"Sasuke eats zetsu in his breakfast,"

He one shotted them via Enton Magatama and an Enton Blade. ANYONE who took a hit from those techniques would be killed so that comparison is moot.

"Even Sakura one shotted zetsu"

Again, Sakura has chakra enhanced strength learned from Tsunade, almost anyone who took a direct hit from that would die.

Being Zetsu's body gives him access to Mokuton (Low scale Mokuton) Mayfly (Merge with the ground and travel at high speed), Zetsu bodies have shown auto healing capabilities. He can use the Spore Technique which absorbs the enemies chakra and transfers it to himself. He can also use his Parasitic Clones along with the Substitution Technique to copy an opponents abilities, chakra signature and appearance. Not to mention he is in a body made from Hashirama's DNA which will increase his stamina and energy.

And he still has access his original techniques and he can make the modifications he made to the other bodies, to this one.

Zetsu Oro>Any other Oro

Fodder bodies are still bodies, but zetsu body is basically weaker than a hashirama clone, that being said,
it is not the best body for orochimaru.
How exactly he is going to do mokuton or any other zetsu techniques, when he have no knowledge about handseals or method of doing these techniques.
He can't Even do his wind related jutsus as zetsu don't have wind nature.

And you all are forgetting one important thing, Everytime oro switched his body, he had preparation time so that he could properly adjust with his body and get the hang of it. But right now, he is with worst his nightmare - sasuke, and he is in a weak zetsu body.
He also lost his snake summoning as when he switch his body, he now have to remake his contract, since his body is changed .

now let me show you something,

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Neji destroying zetsu body with one body blow.
Now do i need to remind you that genin naruto survived neji's 64 palms and was able to stand.

Now there is a very huge difference in 64 palms and one back body blow, and 64 palms is much much stronger.
this means genin naruto's body is stronger then a zetsu body.

 

[Dark Artist]

Well, at least this thread is better than your threads

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look who's talking
a sakura fanboy lol

one thread from dr.proof > all your threads

 

[Turson]

Orochimaru was Kage level even when he was fighting against KM4 Naruto - with no usable arms and within a body of some fodder that was rejecting him on top of that. Its obvious that hes much stronger now than he was at that time, therefore its also obvious that hes waaay above Jounin level.

 

[FleeOnSight]

Hell no. Did you not see the body he had against hiruzen. It was a child's body. He was still Kage level. This means nothing.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

he has taken fodder ninja bodies before. the womans body he was in vs hiruzen was likely fodder