Orochimaru was made to look like a chump.

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there was no need to reply about it in the first place.

you're repeating what you said while proving nothing. For the second time, those aforementioned occasions weren't even fights.
What?

They were fights. Just because someone ended it quickly doesn't mean it wasn't a fight. Unless you're suggesting that you have to have a drawn out h2h combat for it to be considered a fight, but then you'd be wrong.
 

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What?

They were fights. Just because someone ended it quickly doesn't mean it wasn't a fight. Unless you're suggesting that you have to have a drawn out h2h combat for it to be considered a fight, but then you'd be wrong.
so you're telling me Orochimaru extending his hand towards Itachi is a fight? That Orochimaru spewing gas meant to paralyze Sasuke for a body snatching ritual is fighting? Gtfoh with that.
 

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so you're telling me Orochimaru extending his hand towards Itachi is a fight? That Orochimaru spewing gas meant to paralyze Sasuke for a body snatching ritual is fighting? Gtfoh with that.
In a universe where you can kill someone without even having to move, yes I would consider that a fight. Genjutsu is just a skill that shinobi use to kill.
 

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In a universe where you can kill someone without even having to move, yes I would consider that a fight. Genjutsu is just a skill that shinobi use to kill.
a fight would involve multiple parties who are at least attempting to land a blow. What you are describing is assassination. That isn't a fight by any stretch of the imagination.
 

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a fight would involve multiple parties who are at least attempting to land a blow. What you are describing is assassination. That isn't a fight by any stretch of the imagination.
Not an assassination at all. Both people could be looking at each other and genjutsu could be used to defeat the other person.

That doesn't mean the other person didn't try to land a blow, he/she just couldn't because they were beaten that quickly.

Also, Orochimaru was trying to land a blow, but Itachi put him in genjutsu before he could.
 

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Not an assassination at all. Both people could be looking at each other and genjutsu could be used to defeat the other person.

That doesn't mean the other person didn't try to land a blow, he/she just couldn't because they were beaten that quickly.

Also, Orochimaru was trying to land a blow, but Itachi put him in genjutsu before he could.
now you're just repeating everything you've been trying to use as an argument now.
 

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Orochimaru may not have complete immortality, but he has the best out of anyone else. Kaguya, Madara, Obito, Nagato, Itachi, Black Zetsu, everyone who posed a threat to him but Naruto and Sasuke are all dead. While he's still alive. And left to his own devices. He's going to f*ck over the new generation because of Naruto and Sasuke's weird and misplaced trust in him.
 
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