Orochimaru vs Tobirama

[Europa]

Orochimaru wins at medium to high difficulty.

 

[Tobby17]

Wut? Tobirama's E rank suiton bisects him? B!tch please. Tsunade pierced him with a giant sword and he tanked it. Not to mention Manda is extremely fast. He was able to dodge Jiraiya's, Katsuyu's and Gamabunta's attacks without a problem.
His base speed is average, he isn't dodging Orochimaru's attacks forever.

Tobirama gets fodderzed, deal with it.

you're kidding me right?. The technique can cut through tree branches, surely it can cut a freaking snake into two. His base speed is average?, sure not like he's going to just run away from Orochimaru forever..lmao, plus you forget he has FTG too, and he can set up marks with clones while engaging Orochimaru. But yeah whatever floats ur boat

 

[Nattana]

Tobirama mid difficulty. Orochimaru cannot hit Tobirama, and neither does Manda. Suiton: Suidanha cuts Manda in two as it did the chakra absorbing God Tree. Eight Branches gets hit with Suidanha as well. Kage Bunshin's will most likely be used by Tobirama and be applied the Hiraishin marking, and they will spread it out on the ground on on the kunai, giving Tobirama more places to escape. There is no way in hell Orochimaru is surviving being cut in two by Suidanha with multiple Kage Bunshin over and over. He will run out of chakra.



Portrayal. Using his chakra to cave in a wall. FTGing Minato and Naruto in BM while having used FTG numerous times before that. Being able to create two Kage Bunshin with the Red Sun Barrier up while SM Hashirama, who's chakra was comparable to the Kyuubi's or more, only created six.

So much bullshti in one post. I believe you've just broken the record.

 

[ITACHIUCHIA101]

Tobirama has bigger chakra reserves than Orochimaru? Since when?

He is a Senju, that it'self is a pretty good reason to comfortably assume such a thing.

Edit: I'm not saying that Tobirama will win or has more chakra, i'm just saying that may have been a good reason to assume that he has more chakra.

 

[Kαmi]

I feel like Tobirama's type of ET shouldn't be restricted here..
I'm thinking Orochimaru wins this one with high diff. His best bet at winning is to tank a hit with Oral regeneration and then attacking Tobirama with either Kusanagi or poison. By then, he can slow down Tobirama to get hits on him because FTG and Kage Bunshins matched with Tobirama's intelligence makes him a difficult opponent. I feel like people are forgetting that Orochimaru is actually pretty speedy himself. But with Orochimaru's snake summoning fighting style, being able to travel underground and Tobirama basically not being able to finish him, he will catch Tobirama off guard and be able to deliver the finishing blow.

 

[Nattana]

He is a Senju, that it'self is a pretty good reason to comfortably assume such a thing.

It doesn't prove anything. Orochimaru has much bigger chakra reserves than for example Tsunade despite her having Senju and Uzumaki ancestors.

 

[Penguin]

I feel like Tobirama's type of ET shouldn't be restricted here..
I'm thinking Orochimaru wins this one with high diff. His best bet at winning is to tank a hit with Oral regeneration and then attacking Tobirama with either Kusanagi or poison. By then, he can slow down Tobirama to get hits on him because FTG and Kage Bunshins matched with Tobirama's intelligence makes him a difficult opponent. I feel like people are forgetting that Orochimaru is actually pretty speedy himself. But with Orochimaru's snake summoning fighting style, being able to travel underground and Tobirama basically not being able to finish him, he will catch Tobirama off guard and be able to deliver the finishing blow.

Orochimaru is speedy, but no where near fast enough to land a hit on Tobirama.

So much bullshti in one post. I believe you've just broken the record.

Please, do explain where I am bullshitting.

It doesn't prove anything. Orochimaru has much bigger chakra reserves than for example Tsunade despite her having Senju and Uzumaki ancestors.

Tsunade is a watered down Senju, and you are clearly biased.

 

[Optimistic]

He is a Senju, that it'self is a pretty good reason to comfortably assume such a thing.

Edit: I'm not saying that Tobirama will win or has more chakra, i'm just saying that may have been a good reason to assume that he has more chakra.

Orochimaru has Zetsu cells.White Zetsu = Hashirama cells.:|

 

[xcoyote]

Kusanagi to ze head.

 

[Penguin]

Kusanagi to ze head.

Or sensory and reactions for the dodge. U_U

 

[Nattana]

Or sensory and reactions for the dodge. U_U

According to manga feats Tobirama cannot sense without focusing on it.

 

[NarutoIndra]

Tobirama has bigger chakra reserves than Orochimaru? Since when?

Since he fought for 24 hours non-stop? Since he was a Senju? Orochiamru himself said Oral Rebirth creates adverse reaction on him

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[Penguin]

According to manga feats Tobirama cannot sense without focusing on it.

Actually, he cannot sense unless he is kneading chakra. That is with all sensors. The reason you bring that up is because Hashirama and Tobirama were talking in a non violent situation, and Tobirama had no reason to activate his sensory abilities. In a fight, Tobirama would undoubtedly activate it.

:|

Edit: Just for shits and gigs.

Before I make my post, I just want everyone to know that prior to the attack, Juubito has not shown any speed. No one knew how fast Juubito was, so that is why Hashirama and Tobirama were blitz'd.

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Again, no one knew what to expect with Juubito. Hashirama's clone was blitz'd, and Tobirama was blitz'd, from the start.

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This is a paramount feat. During the near instant Juubito's blitz, Tobirama recovered after being completely surprised. With one half of a body, and under milliseconds to think of a plan, Tobirama pulls through and thought of one. Tobirama, with only one hand, tagged Jubito thrice with explosive tags, along with one Hiraishin mark. That is an outlandish feat.

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^ El oh el.

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Notice this is Minato, who is millimeters away from the attack he noticed first, in a KCM cloak which increases speed and reactions. Next manga page he just stares at it in awe, when presumably Tobirama takes chase for it. On the third page Minato still has not teleported the bomb away, with his amazing reactions.

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Finally, Tobirama just doesn't care anymore and takes the mini TBB and shoves it in Rikudobito's face.

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^ Tobirama.

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Minato screams Naruto like a Sakura while Tobirama acts and saves Naruto with Sarutobi.

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Tobirama then proceeds to run after Naruto, leaving that clown Minato in the dust.

#RuffledFeathers

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[Necron]

Oro wins this

He has proven himself on multiple occasions. Also, the fact he is immortal, makes him... well... immortal. I'm sure Tobirama can pull a very
good fight, and his FTG will make Oro die a couple of times... buuuuut, on the long term, he will eventually loose.

 

[-Sky-]

Orochimaru destroys him quite honestly. Tobirama's hype is immense, but I won't believe it til' I see it.

Tobirama is a Senju, yes. But Orochimaru's body is composed of Hashirama's cells, and Hashirama was the pinnacle of Senju strength.

Regardless, Tobirama's Suiton is easily counterable, and his only real technique that can harm Orochimaru is Hiraishingiri. But a simple stab wouldn't even force Oro to use Kawarimi no Jutsu.

Orochimaru takes this

 

[Touken]

Orochimaru destroys him quite honestly. Tobirama's hype is immense, but I won't believe it til' I see it.

Tobirama is a Senju, yes. But Orochimaru's body is composed of Hashirama's cells, and Hashirama was the pinnacle of Senju strength.

Thing is, his version is very watered down. That's what Zetsu is, a watered down Hashirama and I'd put Tobirama's Senju strength over Zetsu's.

Although, I agree, Oro beats Tobirama since he has a number of ways to take down Tobirama whereas the latter doesn't.

 

[-Sky-]

Thing is, his version is very watered down. That's what Zetsu is, a watered down Hashirama and I'd put Tobirama's Senju strength over Zetsu's.

Although, I agree, Oro beats Tobirama since he has a number of ways to take down Tobirama whereas the latter doesn't.

Orochimaru's vitality was well noted prior to attaining his Zetsu body though. His reserves should be pretty high at this point I think..

Yes, I concur sir.

 

[Optimistic]

Thing is, his version is very watered down. That's what Zetsu is, a watered down Hashirama

Still good enough to give Obito a huge power boost with only half of the watered down cell + uchiha dna.Orochimaru has the whole thing so his chakra reserves is high if not higher than tobirama's like it or not.

 

[Touken]

Orochimaru's vitality was well noted prior to attaining his Zetsu body though. His reserves should be pretty high at this point I think..

True, all he needs is feats for us to determine whether his reserves are greater than Tobirama's.

Still good enough to give Obito a huge power boost with only half of the watered down cell + uchiha dna.Orochimaru has the whole thing so his chakra reserves is high if not higher than tobirama's like it or not.

What power boost?

 

[Optimistic]

What power boost?

Able to control the Kyuubi, use MS without eye strain, Juubi sized katons ect.