Orochimaru vs. Pain
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It takes no time at all too....
1. Collect DNA
2. Kill some one
3. Set up the coffins
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I see a path to victory for Orochimaru.
If Orochimaru knew what each path did, he could win. The Preta path can't absorb a snake or a kusanagi blade.
Pain never showed very great speed. Orochimaru can turn his lower half of his body into a snake that can easily out maneuver any of the paths.
Orochimaru's ability to merge with any object makes him hard to kill.
Body shedding also makes him hard to kill. (Which cures any fatal blow)
He can seal off a person's chakra.
He has soft physique modification which makes him extremely durable. He also has this:
If Orochimaru knew what each path did, he could win. The Preta path can't absorb a snake or a kusanagi blade.
Pain never showed very great speed. Orochimaru can turn his lower half of his body into a snake that can easily out maneuver any of the paths.
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Orochimaru's ability to merge with any object makes him hard to kill.
Body shedding also makes him hard to kill. (Which cures any fatal blow)
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He can seal off a person's chakra.
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He has soft physique modification which makes him extremely durable. He also has this:
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Sorry my dear, but you're making a fool of yourself. Since I have life outside of my Computer I can't answer instantly, so not answering doesn't mean 'accepting defeat'. :'D
Besides I didn't even use that merging-technique as an argument.
1. Orochimaru wouldn't use all of his summonings the same time either. Anyway, due to his size & robustness, Manda is superior to all of Pain's animals in a one on one fight, the dog is the only one we could argue about.
2. ..do you have problems with reasoning? Nagato/Kabuto used the Chakra canon from a close range, of course that's deadly. On that range a simple Kibaku Fuda would be deadly, too. However, it was Shurado's mere strength that destroyed Jiraiyas arm. And as soon as he's hit by a Chakra rod he'll just
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himself & directly kill the body that hit him.3. Instead he has his snakes, the sword of Kusanagi & his insane persistence.
4. Yes, that's true, they indeed work in harmony. But if Tendo uses Bansho Tennin, and human path gets in the way, he'll be simply killed by Kusanagi. While he was fighting Tsunade Orochimaru showed how much he can do with his sword, even while he's in the air. He could simply spit it out like a throwing weapon or extend it. However, Shurado was the only path we saw being that persistent. Tendo died from a simple Rasengan, Gakido even from a normal punch loaded up with Sen-Chakra.
5. I suggest you to do so. Nagato himself can revive dead people. Pain already is dead, Jigokudo simply renews the bodys. So as long as Nagato doesn't stand next to the dead paths, so the hell statue can devour them, ce can't revive the bodys as soon as Jigokudo has been killed.
6. Yes, obviously he revived himself. Anyway, that's a whole other situation.
7. Oh, I get that pretty well, but still they can't all attack Oro at the same. Without Tendo causing trouble even Naruto, who's far under Orochimaru's level, was able to kill Pain. And I don't see how Shurado could cutt of a small snake's head. With that sawblade he's wearing like a tail? My dear, the snake would crush him before he could even use it.
8. Mostly nonsense. If they're all standing in a line
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will indeed block Pain's sight to Orochimaru. As I said before, Orochimaru can get rid of Pain's summoning himself, he would use the snakes to fight the bodys. Since they can dige in themselves, they wouldn't have problems to 'aoid' Pain's creatures. And sorry, I forgott that each of them can use Shinra Tensei, not just Tendo. That was sarcasm, in case you din't get it. Anyway there's still the interval, and even if Kusanagi was blocked - it can transform itself into a snake - a good suprpise-attack. Besides that Orochimaru can let it fly through the air by just moving his fingers. Just blocking Kusanagi won't get rid of it. You really underestimate Orochimaru.9. That's what you call head to head? :'D Tendo simply used a Shinra Tensei on Kyuubi and fled after it was thrown back at him. He had to use eight tails to escape, but already six tails were enough so he could overcome Chibaku Tensei without being killed. As I already said Nagato himself is able to use the paths faster than Pain could. And as I already said as well you should refresh your Manga knowledge. If Gakido tried to tuch Naruto
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would've happened.Thanks Oblargagh, so I'm not the only one who sees Orochimaru's true potential. Without taking sides, saying that he'd be crushed like a fly is just ridiculous.
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I haven't even use CT and gedo mazo at my statement either.
1. manda may be superior but he will be outnumbered by pains summons, plus some of them actually has abilities that can make manda occupied. chameleon can be invisible, even naruto didn't sense that when the summon is invisible. second the bird summon can be a distraction above. and bird > snake. Im saying here that manda/or any oro summon will be occupied and will not able to help oro in his fight with the 6paths.
2. oro will have problem using his chakra if hit by chakra rods, naruto was completely disabled when tendou pinned him on the ground. I doubt he'll be able to use that technique without any trouble.
3. sword of kusanagi a physical weapon is useless against pain. as I have said, even if pain's body are crushed he can still use them coz its just like a puppet.
4. naruto's punch was never normal it was amplified with sage chakra which oro doesn't have. don't compare it to a normal attack. again kusanagi will not be a problem as I said in no3.
5. he can always have another body in case.. or simply he can go out to the battle field since oro doesnt have talk no jutsu. but I doubt oro will able to destroy all pain's path. he can do mostly 3.
6. I think this point is clear to you now
7. those snakes your talking about didn't even crushed someone, it was only used to block, graple, grasp someone but never crushed.. its mechanical.. LOL and you obviously don't understand the situation of pain vs naruto. after crushing leaf he fought naruto. a feat oro can't achieve. when oro invaded konoha he was just able to handle the 3rd nothing more..
when naruto achieved sage mode he surpassed jiraiya and obviously oro. besides naruto got help from all of the frogs in myobokuzan
8. you didn't get it, if pain uses shinra tensei its not like oro will be able to counter back easily.and that technique you show can be countered by one shinra tensei blasting oro at the back as well. he'll suffer some damage before he can get back. again pain's summon will keep oro's summon busy the dog is very hard to kill, they'll have problem detecting the chameleon and riching the bird that is flying above. and blocking 10+ eyes will be impossible for oro. we never saw oro use tactics to outsmart his opponent when fighting,he's not that smart. he uses jutsu that he thinks fits. he's no shikamaru that thinks thouroughly and analyzing situation before attacking.
9.no you don't understand what your talking about, we obviously saw that nagato was able to absorb a tailed beast chakra directly and fat pain=nagato, the only diff is he uses that power to his own body.. and are you seriously comparing the fat pain's ability to oro snake??lol that is just a normal snake that can't absorb shit. that snake can't absorb chakra that is why it was burnt.lol I can't believe you'll just be finding ways to suit your arguments. but that link is fail. obviously your logic fails.
btw its SIX tails, not FOUR. oro face FOUR tail naruto and was having a VERY HARD time. nagato faced the 6 tails when his chakra is almost gone. but still was able to HOLD upto 8 tails with CT. again, a FEAT ORO could just wish for.
and incase you don't know the tails indicate the power of kyuubi that naruto is using..obviously more tails means more power.
and you obviously lack knowledge if you say pain with full chakra will not be able to defeat a 4 tail naruto.
oro will put up a fight but I say he could be able to kill mostly 3.thats oro going all out exhausting all his effort
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he was toying with him...you honestly think he would use just snakes to kill 4 TAILED NARUTO??? this man knows a plethora of jutsu...theres a reason he didn't die against him...or try to seriously kill him...
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oh my god dude are u stupid or something he already has the dna for first and second he is not going somewhere and killing a ninja and then using edo tensei those two are already dead. and without edo oro stands no chance but with edos like hashirama, tobirama and oro vs pain orochimaru is going to win.It takes no time at all too....
1. Collect DNA
2. Kill some one
3. Set up the coffins
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lol, it doesn't look like his toying. it looks like his measuring his strength with the 4 tails naruto.but then again can't do much. but let me ask you this, if pain is at full chakra and fight against 4tails naruto, who will win?
your assuming.
only jiraya knew nagato's secret, after a long while, konoha figured it out. so orchimaru would already be at a disadvantage. orchimaru would bne able to fight agaisnt the 6 paths at once for a little bit, but would ultimately lose as he cant handle their combined assualt
He surpassed them by summoning (number of summons). Tobirama could summon 1-2, Oro 3, and Kabuto a shit load.
If he summoned Hashirama and has his DNA than he surely has Madara's also and can summon him (possibly). Tobi/Madara said Kabuto knew a lot, but Tobi stated Oro was the one who knew, reason why he could have saved Madara for this time. In other words, whatever Kabuto knows he got from Oro.
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Pein/Nagato would win this. Oro would be lucky IF he manages to take one body out.
With Edo, like Madara, 3rd Raikge, and whoever else. Oro would take it without struggle. Him (Oro) and Madara (edo summoned) would take this.
Orochimaru wins tbh, think about it , He uses edo tensei and summons -First hokage and 2nd hokage, then he summons Manda,
First hokage the man who bested Madara
2nd hokage- 2nd strongest senju
Manda-giant ass snake that makes gamabunta look dwarf
And Orochimaru - a legendary sannin
I think those 4 can take the 6 paths of pain
jiraya was able to take down like 2? with much less.,.... and no help, and orochimaru and jiraya are just about equal,
First hokage the man who bested Madara
2nd hokage- 2nd strongest senju
Manda-giant ass snake that makes gamabunta look dwarf
And Orochimaru - a legendary sannin
I think those 4 can take the 6 paths of pain
jiraya was able to take down like 2? with much less.,.... and no help, and orochimaru and jiraya are just about equal,