No because Sasuke used the same exact Genjutsu as Itachi which is referred to as this technique(Look at the casters as well):
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Which is why Orochimaru said "It's just like that time"..That enabled him know he was in a Genjutsu...Sasuke can just use a different one and he won't know he's in one.
Agreed. Didn't think Japanese was like that to be honest...That literally makes things difficult.
Any genjutsu not close to reality as possible will instantly be dispelled no diff with Kai release. Or oru can have a clone or snake break him out of the genjutsu. You also add the fact he can merge with his giant snakes makes it that more difficult. But all in all, all of sasukes genjutsu are dispelled no diff.
But for the sake of it, let's say he uses genjutsu to catch oru off guard. He in your eyes would do what? Shoot an arrow? AMA/Enton? Smash? That's it? Oru will rebirth every single time! But sasuke cannot spam ms for long so in the end he is wasting chakra. Snakes can divert the arrows and change the directory exactly like neji did with the tree and Danzou did with wood style. As a result the arrows are useless! Rashonon also laughs at the arrow as oru is protected no diff.
AMA/Enton useless and countered.
Arrows useless and countered.
Susannoo outlasted.
Genjutsu waste of time.
What else is left that would magically end oru? Karin? The same move oru knows he has and will attempt to stop/avoid it (mayflower/hiding like mole doesn't matter which one). So be sides hype and sasuke being sasuke, how does he beat an healthy senju oru? Itachi can seal, sasuke cannot!
Any genjutsu not close to reality as possible will instantly be dispelled no diff with Kai release. Or oru can have a clone or snake break him out of the genjutsu. You also add the fact he can merge with his giant snakes makes it that more difficult. But all in all, all of sasukes genjutsu are dispelled no diff.
Yeah but Sasuke can do so and Orochimaru already fell prey to Genjutsu without knowing until sometime. Sasuke can put one in a Genjutsu and kill him without him knowing..Not to mention during that period, an arrow can kill him since it would take time to realize he's in one.
Orochimaru isn't dispelling something he has no idea about...One with Sharingans fell for it, how is Oro not falling? No proof since he only resisted what he had experienced before.
What do you mean by Merge? Hydra? Because Sasuke won't need to resort to Genjutsu in that case but would still kill it with ease.
Clones? Not even a factor since they can't predict or see flow of Oro's Chakra unless they can somehow tell he's in one or unless Oro eventually knows he's in one...Same goes for snakes. Meanwhile, Enton kills all his clones.
But for the sake of it, let's say he uses genjutsu to catch oru off guard. He in your eyes would do what? Shoot an arrow? AMA/Enton? Smash? That's it? Oru will rebirth every single time! But sasuke cannot spam ms for long so in the end he is wasting chakra. Snakes can divert the arrows and change the directory exactly like neji did with the tree and Danzou did with wood style. As a result the arrows are useless! Rashonon also laughs at the arrow as oru is protected no diff.
Rebirth? It uses a large amount of chakra so overtime isn't going to be a smart move especially if the arrow hits his face...Sasuke can't spam but can use it long enough to defeat Oro when you bring its usage against Danzo and the Kages. How are snakes diverting the arrow when they can't even react to it? Rashomon? Not a chance of us seeing that when the arrow is released. I've already explained the usage of Oro's massive chakra use so he has to be vigilant on that.
Not to mention unlike Itachi did to Sasuke's wings alone, Sasuke can set Oro's entire body on fire and if he wants to use Oral rebirth, there are low chances that he'll get out without touching some of the flames set on his previous body.
What else is left that would magically end oru? Karin? The same move oru knows he has and will attempt to stop/avoid it (mayflower/hiding like mole doesn't matter which one). So be sides hype and sasuke being sasuke, how does he beat an healthy senju oru? Itachi can seal, sasuke cannot!
Mayfly won't avoid Kirin..Not with that speed of the technique. You're probably going to use Zetsu but we see him covering his head during the time when the technique was being used
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and he also thought to himself "There won't be any dodging that" as well as implying that lightning was hundred times faster than sound
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but later on, he compared Obito's speed to the speed of light and was said to be too slow to keep up
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The only way would be to use Mayfly beforehand but Sasuke has the Sharigan to see through and if he he can't he'll either wait for Oro since Oro himself won't know when Kirin has been used as his snakes and all would be completely destroyed and clones can't pass information unless they disperse which means Oro can show up anytime and get killed. Sasuke can even hold the technique and summon his hawk to watch out with his for Oro...If Oro doesn't show up, BFR. If he shows up and goes back, he's not escaping the range.
Regardless, The location alone doesn't favor Oro when you think if the water below and the fact that the bridge can be completely destroyed.
I just realized this is Zetsu Orochimaru, he surely wins especially if sores are placed anytime within the fight. That'll counter genjutsu within itself. Also, Haven't Zetsu already avoided the destruction of Kirin? Orochimaru having prior knowledge can prep this in advance. It's not like Sasuke can use the Jutsu discretely
No because Sasuke used the same exact Genjutsu as Itachi which is referred to as this technique(Look at the casters as well):
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Which is why Orochimaru said "It's just like that time"..That enabled him know he was in a Genjutsu...Sasuke can just use a different one and he won't know he's in one.
Agreed. Didn't think Japanese was like that to be honest...That literally makes things difficult.
Another genjutsu other than binding genjutsu? Unless you're talking finger genjutsu, I'm not hearing you. There's an alter in reality or control. We get a good understanding of this is the Sasuke vs Itachi fight. Now, to get technical, considering the snake both Orochimaru and Kabuto kept alongside them, this is a secondary sensing and eyes available in case of such situations.
Again... doesn't change the fact that the snake will get pierced by the Susano'o arrow. And for the record, Danzō got pierced as well.
I'm not sure about this, but I don't even think Manda took on the full brunt of C0's blast.
Yeah, but summons disapear when they take a substantial amount of damage... which is what Manda did in that scenario.
...You're the one who alluded to Danzo getting pierced by the Susano'o arrow in order to try to counter my point about Manda getting pierced. Yes, it's obcious that Manda is far, far, far more durable than Danzo. And? It still isn't saving him.
Burden of proof falls on the person who tries to establish a point.
Yeah, but summons disapear when they take a substantial amount of damage... which is what Manda did in that scenario.
...You're the one who alluded to Danzo getting pierced by the Susano'o arrow in order to try to counter my point about Manda getting pierced. Yes, it's obcious that Manda is far, far, far more durable than Danzo. And? It still isn't saving him.
Burden of proof falls on the person who tries to establish a point.
Summonings don't disappear according to the amount of damage they receive, they disappear when they're of not further use or time runs out. Manda left because he was stuck with his mouth to the floor. If damage was the case, Many of summonings wouldve left the battlefield in the series.
No no no, I spoke of the environmental damage the occurred as result of the arrows, which wasn't much, not Danzo. Those arrows displayed little to no destructive power. The reason I comapred Co
Summonings don't disappear according to the amount of damage they receive, they disappear when they're of not further use or time runs out. Manda left because he was stuck with his mouth to the floor. If damage was the case, Many of summonings wouldve left the battlefield in the series.
No no no, I spoke of the environmental damage the occurred as result of the arrows, which wasn't much, not Danzo. Those arrows displayed little to no destructive power. The reason I comapred Co
Yeah but Sasuke can do so and Orochimaru already fell prey to Genjutsu without knowing until sometime. Sasuke can put one in a Genjutsu and kill him without him knowing..Not to mention during that period, an arrow can kill him since it would take time to realize he's in one.
No Oru allowed Itachi to use Genjutu and he was no diff about to break a Jutsu he wasn't even suppose to move from. Sasuke's Genjutsu From Zetsu Oru is broke no diff. Especially since this is Zetsu Oru who is a Sensor?????????????????????????????????????????????????? Think about what you are saying now! Plus the fact Zetus Clones can and will sense him in a Genjutsu and instantly Conect to him and break him out every single time!
Genjutsu is literally a non factor on all levels! Oru is smarter and has too many counters to genjutsu. And no! And Arrow would hit him, dispell him with pain, he then Rebirths no diff. And this is all assuming he looks in his eyes. lol
Orochimaru isn't dispelling something he has no idea about...One with Sharingans fell for it, how is Oro not falling? No proof since he only resisted what he had experienced before.
So he doesn't know Uchihas use genjutsu? He wasn't the one who trained sasuke him self? Think about what you just said.. He wasnt the one who knows everything Kabuto knows? Really? Genjutsu is countered or avoided neg Diff!
What do you mean by Merge? Hydra? Because Sasuke won't need to resort to Genjutsu in that case but would still kill it with ease.
First off, Base old man Danzo broke his Genjutsu with Zero handseals.. Yet you think Oru can't who has actually showm Kai release????... Moving on...
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As an he can become one with his snakes at anytime and fight while with in them. And he is Hydra, Hydra is not a Summon, the entire Hydra form is Oru! Arrows will never kill hydra, only Ama would be effective, and when that is used, BYe Bye Susanoo like in cannon! And Bye bye Big chunk of Chakra! Leaves him a sitting duck! While Oru Oral rebirths no diff! Or Mayflower the Entire Hydra form under ground.
Clones? Not even a factor since they can't predict or see flow of Oro's Chakra unless they can somehow tell he's in one or unless Oro eventually knows he's in one...Same goes for snakes. Meanwhile, Enton kills all his clones.
Zetsu Oru is a sensor bro.lol Next is the obv notion, If I see him Standing still break him out or protect him! Or If i see him about to get hit, say something or break him out of a would be genjutsu. It's common sense and Out of any ninja Oru would be prepared for genjutsu. You act as though Genjutsu is the biggest secret Uchiha have, when even ninjas from other villages know how to fight them. Seriously bro, Genjutsu is laughed at every single time.
Rebirth? It uses a large amount of chakra so overtime isn't going to be a smart move especially if the arrow hits his face...Sasuke can't spam but can use it long enough to defeat Oro when you bring its usage against Danzo and the Kages. How are snakes diverting the arrow when they can't even react to it? Rashomon? Not a chance of us seeing that when the arrow is released. I've already explained the usage of Oro's massive chakra use so he has to be vigilant on that.
Oru used Rebirth 5-6 times when he was sick and about to die along with using 3 Rashomon and 10000 snakes... Yet you think ZETSU ORU WITH 100% HASIRAMA DNA Cannot use more then 5 Rebirths? Danzo with only 15-20 percent of his body was able to spam izanagi and hold 11 sharingans on his body, use 2 MS jutsu that take 10 years to use normaly in a day.. Yet you think some one with 100% hashirma DNA cannot hold his own in chakra... When even Base Oru spammed Giant Boss summons on equal footing as Jman (who has giagantic chakra reserves!).
Danzo above image was able to see the arrow, Talk to himself and think of a plan while the arrow is getting close, HAve the right of mind to Activate Wood release, the tree then grew faster then the arrow showed up, then the arrow was changed.
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With Oru's powers he was able to use a Giant Snake to protect him no diff!
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And just like with Danzo and the tree, the snakes will cause the Arow to change tragectory since the arrows are not the Drilling type (Kimmimaru) to not allow it to change (when it is cannon it can be changed). Or he simply
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when he sees the arrow being loaded. Arrows are 100000% useless! Too many counters while the ladder cannot spam!
Not to mention unlike Itachi did to Sasuke's wings alone, Sasuke can set Oro's entire body on fire and if he wants to use Oral rebirth, there are low chances that he'll get out without touching some of the flames set on his previous body.
(thus moving the Flames).
Mayflower so the flames do not follow under/in the planet (impossible btw).
You choose.
Mayfly won't avoid Kirin..Not with that speed of the technique. You're probably going to use Zetsu but we see him covering his head during the time when the technique was being used
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and he also thought to himself "There won't be any dodging that" as well as implying that lightning was hundred times faster than sound
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but later on, he compared Obito's speed to the speed of light and was said to be too slow to keep up
Karin takes forever to set up, fact 1! Oru knows about Karin, fact 2! This is how karin looks before sasuke connects his lighting or
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. You think Oru will just stand there looking at him like Itachi did? No! Oru will just Mayflower (sharingan cannot sense nor know where it is btw, fact!) and wait it out since it doesnt last forever, or simply Mayflower under him and Wrap him and his arm to make him mis fire and hit himself or another area. He no diff avoids Karin one time or 100 times use.lol
And yes Mayflower allowed him to avoid Karin No disputing!
The only way would be to use Mayfly beforehand but Sasuke has the Sharigan to see through and if he he can't he'll either wait for Oro since Oro himself won't know when Kirin has been used as his snakes and all would be completely destroyed and clones can't pass information unless they disperse which means Oro can show up anytime and get killed. Sasuke can even hold the technique and summon his hawk to watch out with his for Oro...If Oro doesn't show up, BFR. If he shows up and goes back, he's not escaping the range.
Regardless, The location alone doesn't favor Oro when you think if the water below and the fact that the bridge can be completely destroyed.
Sharingan cannot see through mayflower fact of manga. I can post the shit load of scans if you want me to bro.lol Like literally a shit load of scans! SHIT LOAD!!!
How can sasuke hold the tech and summon the hawk at the same time? Oru doesnt have to show up to still be there when its a fact with mayflower you becomes the land its self! So how did he leave when he never left? lol You want me to post and show machanics behind Mayflower?
He can mayflower on water so mute point is mute.
Zetsu Oru wins with no more then Mid diff and that's me being nice. Already debated this With KG last year and he eventually agreed with me.
