Orochimaru vs Hidan and Kakuzu

[Kages]

Dotonomu=Tankuzu

What will Kakuzu do to defeat Eight Branches?

 

[MickNerks]

To the guys saying Hidan will kill orochimaru...............


Im pretty sure if Hidan puts orochimaru's blood in his mouth he will be

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, so Hidan is a non factor here.

 

[Curse Mark]

These desperate claims to downplay Orochimaru amuse me. A blood contract is required in order for any summoner to summon their respective animal.

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Kabuto'sDNA was contaminated with Orochimaru's. Kabuto is equvalent to Orochimaru in a sense of the matter. Even part 1 Kabuto had the ability to theoretically summon Manda, as long as he used Orochimaru's blood.


Therefore, until it's proven Manda ll didn't require any blood contract, Orochimaru may very well possess Manda ll.

OT: Orochimaru wins high difficulty.

But Kabuto created manda 2 in a lab. its not a naturally occurring snake it doesnt live in ryuchi cave- oro wouldnt have the contract

 

[Zexion~]

Hidan isn't really affected by poison.

 

[Kages]

Hidan isn't really affected by poison.

May I know where you received this information?

Inb4 his body doesn't work like ours

 

[blazekev90]

But Kabuto created manda 2 in a lab. its not a naturally occurring snake it doesnt live in ryuchi cave- oro wouldnt have the contract

Irrelevant. Contracts are required in order for the summoner to transport their respected animal to their destination. Kabuto had to use a blood sacrifice for this to work. Also, we've witnessed the importance of blood in summoning a contracted animal, even for those who don't have contracts themselves. The second example being Sug. Summoning Manda with Sasuke's blood. Blood is what connects the summoner and the contracted animal.

Secondly, to go further, we should address the the animals ability to recognize the chakra of the summoner upon being commanded, ex Madara/Kyuubi, Orochimaru/Manda, both animals were aware of whom summoned them and responded. How does this connect? Manda ll wouldn't be able to completely differentiate the chakra's between the two (Orochimaru/Kabuto) in its entirety as Orochimaru's chakra flowed heavily within Kabuto.

The importance and connection established thru blood contracts is more than enough for me or anything else to conclude Orochimaru has the possibility of summoning Manda ll. Lol you're acting as if Manda ll wasn't reconstructed from the original lol

 

[Zexion~]

May I know where you received this information?

Inb4 his body doesn't work like ours

Inb4 it doesn't.... I don't recall how it works but if it works by affecting the nervous system its useless, as Hidan's functioned with a ruined nervous system.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Poison is useless against both kakuzu and Hidan.

 

[Kages]

Poison is useless against both kakuzu and Hidan.

Why is it useless against Kakuzu as well?

 

[HiddenSound]

He can only use it so many times.

The number of times he can use it is higher than people think. He used the Jutsu three times during his fight with Yonbi Kyuubi.

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That final one was after summoning Triple Rashomon, a Kuchiyose that requires a colossal amount of Chakra.

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All that while in a rapidly decaying body. I think it's reasonable say a healthy Orochimaru with both arms can perform Oral Rebirth, at the very least, 6 times in one battle.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Why is it useless against Kakuzu as well?

How is it going to affect him?

 

[Curse Mark]

Irrelevant. Contracts are required in order for the summoner to transport their respected animal to their destination. Kabuto had to use a blood sacrifice for this to work. Also, we've witnessed the importance of blood in summoning a contracted animal, even for those who don't have contracts themselves. The second example being Sug. Summoning Manda with Sasuke's blood. Blood is what connects the summoner and the contracted animal.

Secondly, to go further, we should address the the animals ability to recognize the chakra of the summoner upon being commanded, ex Madara/Kyuubi, Orochimaru/Manda, both animals were aware of whom summoned them and responded. How does this connect? Manda ll wouldn't be able to completely differentiate the chakra's between the two (Orochimaru/Kabuto) in its entirety as Orochimaru's chakra flowed heavily within Kabuto.

The importance and connection established thru blood contracts is more than enough for me or anything else to conclude Orochimaru has the possibility of summoning Manda ll. Lol you're acting as if Manda ll wasn't reconstructed from the original lol

We still can't assume something that wasn't shown in the manga.
because hiruzen can summon enma can he summon the gorilla from the turtle island?
Can sasuke summon all birds?
We don't know.

Inb4 it doesn't.... I don't recall how it works but if it works by affecting the nervous system its useless, as Hidan's functioned with a ruined nervous system.

When was his nervous system ruined?

Poison is useless against both kakuzu and Hidan.

Both have blood.

 

[Zexion~]

We still can't assume something that wasn't shown in the manga.
because hiruzen can summon enma can he summon the gorilla from the turtle island?
Can sasuke summon all birds?
We don't know.



When was his nervous system ruined?



Both have blood.

When he impaled his spine .-.

Kakuzu doesn't have a blood flow, nor does he require oxygen.

Hidan just isn't affected by things that would hinder him from the inside. Its like saying a deadly virus (I think Virus....) Would incapacitate him, immortality is something on the micro and macro levels.

 

[Nattana]

8branches ends this farse.

Orochimaru is leagues above Kakuzu and Hidan.

 

[blazekev90]

We still can't assume something that wasn't shown in the manga.
because hiruzen can summon enma can he summon the gorilla from the turtle island?
Can sasuke summon all birds?
We don't know.



When was his nervous system ruined?



Both have blood.

If it can been summered, than yes!

Once a summoner signs contract, they're able to summon all respected animals that co-exist with that contract. This is stated in the manga.

You're argument of it not being shown in manga is desperate.

 

[Curse Mark]

When he impaled his spine .-.

Kakuzu doesn't have a blood flow, nor does he require oxygen.

Was that against asuma?
Clearly his blood flows or it Shikamaru wouldnt have gotten it.

Hidan just isn't affected by things that would hinder him from the inside. Its like saying a deadly virus (I think Virus....) Would incapacitate him, immortality is something on the micro and macro levels.

You're making this stuff up

If it can been summered, than yes!

Once a summoner signs contract, they're able to summon all respected animals that co-exist with that contract. This is stated in the manga.

You're argument of it not being shown in manga is desperate.

My argument of it not being in the manga is how this entire section works.
Naruto can use wind techniques because he has the wind affinity.
INB4 he hasnt shown it in the manga, so what. He has the affinity so he can use great breakthrough.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Why is it useless against Kakuzu as well?

He doesn't breath.

 

[Zexion~]

Was that against asuma?
Clearly his blood flows or it Shikamaru wouldnt have gotten it.


You're making this stuff up





My argument of it not being in the manga is how this entire section works.
Naruto can use wind techniques because he has the wind affinity.
INB4 he hasnt shown it in the manga, so what. He has the affinity so he can use great breakthrough.

Smh, it was obviously from one of his hearts :lol, a heart is coated in what usually bro? Along with containig blood I believe.

Oh so it flows normall? Please tell me where all of it was when a torso sized opening appeared

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or why it wasn't spilling out of the hand size wound in his chest

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(Kakashi impaled the heart so obviously blood that doesn't flow is going to be present)


So i'm making up the meaning of immortality now? :lol It means undying, if something is immortal their cells should also be undying should they not? Doesn't poison work by killing the cells?

Having you ask yourself the questions as its the best way to learn

 

[blazekev90]

Was that against asuma?
Clearly his blood flows or it Shikamaru wouldnt have gotten it.


You're making this stuff up





My argument of it not being in the manga is how this entire section works.
Naruto can use wind techniques because he has the wind affinity.
INB4 he hasnt shown it in the manga, so what. He has the affinity so he can use great breakthrough.

What? That's a horrible comparison lol. You're just saying whatever now. You can't compare jutsu variations to summoning animals of the same species.

 

[Curse Mark]

He doesn't breath.

You dropped this: e.

Smh, it was obviously from one of his hearts :lol, a heart is coated in what usually bro? Along with containig blood I believe.

Oh so it flows normall? Please tell me where all of it was when a torso sized opening appeared

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or why it wasn't spilling out of the hand size wound in his chest

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(Kakashi impaled the heart so obviously blood that doesn't flow is going to be present)


So i'm making up the meaning of immortality now? :lol It means undying, if something is immortal their cells should also be undying should they not? Doesn't poison work by killing the cells?

Having you ask yourself the questions as its the best way to learn

The needle was stuck into his skin. The blood is in his skin, not his internals.

What? That's a horrible comparison lol. You're just saying whatever now. You can't compare jutsu variations to summoning animals of the same species.

It is a perfect comparison because we're talking about things being shown in the manga. We don't get to fill in the blanks as we please. Oro having manda 2 isnt canon.