Orochimaru vs Deidara

Orochimaru vs deidara....who'd win?

  • Orochimaru

    Votes: 52 74.3%
  • Deidara

    Votes: 17 24.3%
  • Tie

    Votes: 1 1.4%

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Cyborg

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he survived the self destruct because he could summon manda(needed sharingan to control manda so he got them out of their and let sasuke hide in his mouth) and reverse summoned before most of the blast hit them, but if he didn't have the sharingan c4 would have caught him by suprised because he wouldn't know about the micro bombs (so he wouldn't know to use lighting to deactivate them since he wouldn't know they were in his bloodstream) and deidara wouldn't need to self destruct in the first place.
Needed sharingan to control manda?? Do you have any proof of that? Cuz from what i know oro summoned/controlled him w/o it before. So by your argument deidara has a good chance against oro because no sharingan=no detecting the tiny bombs, right?
You're ignorant. Saying sasuke would lose without sharingan is like saying diedara would lose without his clay, its pointless so dont say it. And deidara is not impervious to the sharingan, sasuke tricked him with it, read the fight again or better yet, watch it! And if you really believe that oro, the man who made it his lifes mission to study and learn EVERY JUTSU KNOWN TO THE NINJA, has no long distance attacks, then you, 1: need to get your head out your ass. 2:Reread his fights and watch them. 3:pay attention to his fighting style and prowress. I swear, you fanboys make me want to puke, get a life.
Don't insult him, he is'nt insulting you. Don't assume shizz like oro must've had long distance attacks, etc provide proof. I have a question: how would sasuke detect the micro bombs without sharingan? He could'nt, and neither could oro, or prove me wrong by providing some sorta proof from the manga/anime that oro has an ability that could detect those tiny bombs.
Give reasons, simpleton.
 

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Saying sasuke would lose without sharingan is like saying diedara would lose without his clay, its pointless so dont say it.
I just stated simple fact, thats all.
And deidara is not impervious to the sharingan, sasuke tricked him with it, read the fight again or better yet, watch it!
I dont have to, becuase I remember that fight very well. Sasuke tried to use genjutsu on Deidara, but it failed, Deidara knew all the time what was going on.
<- Here Sasuke is using his genjutsu.

<- And that clearly states that Deidara saw through it.
And if you really believe that oro, the man who made it his lifes mission to study and learn EVERY JUTSU KNOWN TO THE NINJA, has no long distance attacks
He hasnt shown any good long-range technique - thats a fact, live with it. I can say that Orochimaru could grow out snake wings from his ass and fly like a jet fighter, but that dont have to be true. I only consider skills that were used in manga - nothing more, nothing less.
need to get your head out your ass
And you should to learn some manners.
Reread his fights and watch them
I dont have to, becuase I have good memory and I remember them well.
attention to his fighting style and prowress
I do that, and what I see is that Orochimaru was good when it came to close and mid-range, but when it comes to long-range fight he simply sux when you compare him to guys like Deidara or Kakuzu.
I swear, you fanboys make me want to puke, get a life.
1. Im no Deidara fanboy. But I can see your point, you dont have any arguments, so you just use insults. Childish behaviour, I must say.
2. I have happy life and bunch of good friends, but thanks for your concern.
 
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I have plenty of points, you just refuse to aknowledge them, that isn't my fault nor my problem. It shows how closed minded you are. And i was using manners until you started making it a point to ride up my ass. And if you only think that oro is good from short to mid range then you, and everyone else who thinks the same, needs to get a real big reality check because you guys obviously aren't paying attention to anything.
 

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I have plenty of points, you just refuse to aknowledge them, that isn't my fault nor my problem.
Im sorry, but you didnt give any arguments. I use manga to support my points, you gave nothing.
And i was using manners until you started making it a point to ride up my ass.
What are you talking about, kiddo?
And if you only think that oro is good from short to mid range then you, and everyone else who thinks the same, needs to get a real big reality check because you guys obviously aren't paying attention to anything.
No, its you who just make up some "points" that dont have any confrimation in manga. But go ahead, give me link to page that shows that Oro is as good long-range fighter as Deidara, Kakuzu or Gaara. Show me something that proofs that Oro had something that could seriously threaten Deidara. Its you who have closed mind, and cant even acknowledge simple facts.
 
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Im sorry, but you didnt give any arguments. I use manga to support my points, you gave nothing.

What are you talking about, kiddo?

No, its you who just make up some "points" that dont have any confrimation in manga. But go ahead, give me link to page that shows that Oro is as good long-range fighter as Deidara, Kakuzu or Gaara. Its you who have closed mind, and cant even acknowledge simple facts.
THERE AREN'T ANY FACTS YOU TWAT! You said yourself that he hasn't shown any long range skills, which for your info, is bull. But, if you want to continue on your simplistic train of thought, then you can't assume that he DOESN'T have those skills either, DUUUHHH!!!!!!!!! Leave me alone you little prick, i hate little ass grinders like yourself, get a damn life. Holy hell people these days are freaking idiots.
 

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You said yourself that he hasn't shown any long range skills, which for your info, is bull.
Any good long-range skills. He can only stratch his neck, and have this mid-range fuuton, thats all. With only that, Deidara would just laugh at him.
then you can't assume that he DOESN'T have those skills either
As I said already, he hasnt shown any. I consider only skills that were shown in manga.
Leave me alone you little prick, i hate little ass grinders like yourself, get a damn life. Holy hell people these days are freaking idiots.
You are only pathetic child that just cant admit that you are wrong, and dont have any evidence from manga to support your point. I think forums arent for you, becuase you simply cant discuss. Come back when you will grow up a little and be wiser.
 

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Any good long-range skills. He can only stratch his neck, and have this mid-range fuuton, thats all. With only that, Deidara would just laugh at him.

As I said already, he hasnt shown any. I consider only skills that were shown in manga.

You are only pathetic child that just cant admit that you are wrong, and dont have any evidence from manga to support your point. I think forums arent for you, becuase you simply cant discuss. Come back when you will grow up a little and be wiser.
If something isn't shown at all, you can't confirm nor deny it. That's common sense and after all your talk about insults, look who's throwing them out now. You need to stop taking this stuff so seriously and you need to learn to leave someone alone after the tell you to leave them alone. Im done wasting my time on you. I refuse to debate with someone who won't so much as consider what the other person has to say. So, i tell you once again, go run along and play or something and leave, me, alone.
 

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If something isn't shown at all, you can't confirm nor deny it.
As I said earlier...
I can say that Orochimaru could grow out snake wings from his ass and fly like a jet fighter, but that dont have to be true. I only consider skills that were used in manga - nothing more, nothing less.
 

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As I said earlier...
I can say that Orochimaru could grow out snake wings from his ass and fly like a jet fighter, but that dont have to be true. I only consider skills that were used in manga - nothing more, nothing less.
You're contradicting yourself. That also means that you CAN'T say he doesn't have any means to fight at long range because you simply DONT KNOW. Now, leave me be, for the 10th time.
 

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That also means that you CAN'T say he doesn't have any means to fight at long range because you simply DONT KNOW.
You cant say he have wide variety of long-range jutsus to threaten Deidara becuase he didnt show any. But I atleast can support my statement with the simple fact that he never used them. Thats why I consider only proved skills from manga.
 

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You cant say he have wide variety of long-range jutsus to threaten Deidara becuase he didnt show any. But I atleast can support my statement with the simple fact that he never used them. Thats why I consider only proved skills from manga.
See, i prefer common sense, if the man made it his lifes mission to study all jutsus then he certainly must know some long range tactics. Then he has manda, which gives him another couple hundred feet of room, as well as his body, starting with his waist, which gives him added reach, then his neck which adds even more, then his tongue which is even more still, then his sword which we've seen can stretch a good mile at least. All that together tells me that he could easily get deidara from a distance. Also, oro is amazingly fast and unpredictable.
 

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See, i prefer common sense, if the man made it his lifes mission to study all jutsus then he certainly must know some long range tactics.
Okay, so lets describe those long-range techniques that Oro has. Tell me what range they have, how powerful they are, how dangerous they are for Deidara. Thing is, you cant do this, so how can you consider it in this thread?
Then he has manda, which gives him another couple hundred feet of room
You know, Deidara can just fly higher, as simple as that. And from there finish Manda with C2, or Orochimaru along with Manda with C3 or C4. Orochimaru dont have raitons, so hes helpless against Deidaras bombs.
hundred feet of room, as well as his body, starting with his waist, which gives him added reach, then his neck which adds even more, then his tongue which is even more still, then his sword which we've seen can stretch a good mile at least
Thing is, Gaara had huge problems with catching Deidara, even though he was vastly more suited to do that than Orochimaru. He could fly, he could send that great mass of sand into the air and persue Deidara with it from several other directions. Still, he lost.
All that together tells me that he could easily get deidara from a distance
Not. Even. Close.
Also, oro is amazingly fast
Nah. Orochimaru is decent when it comes to speed, but thats all.
 

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People take character threads wayyy too seriously, if you cant state an opinion and discuss it with an open mind without throwing heated insults at each other than dont say anything at all.
 

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Deidara would take this with easy. Orochimaru has no good long-range techniques to take him down, and hes helpless against Deidaras techniques - C3 or C4 means death to him. Not to mention, that while Oro may have greater experience, it is Deidara who has proven to be way better tactician. In short - Blondie stomps.
c4 or c3 can't kill orochimaru cause if the kyuubi's ultimate blast couldn't finish him of then c4 and c4 would be childs play for him to evade
 

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c4 or c3 can't kill orochimaru cause if the kyuubi's ultimate blast couldn't finish him of then c4 and c4 would be childs play for him to evade
Orochimaru survived thanks to Sanjuu Rashoumon, if KM4 blast hit him directly, he would die, he said that himself. But Sanjuu Rashoumon wont help him against C4, plus Orochimaru dont have Sharingan and cant see cloud of microbombs.
 

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In my opinion, most likely Orochimaru would win the fight. Once you think about it, Orochimaru is one of the Great Sanins. Sure, Deidras strong but, he's an Akatsuki, not a Sanin.
 

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Deidras strong but, he's an Akatsuki, not a Sanin
Sannins arent stronger than other kage-level shinobis just becuase they are sannins. Pain or Itachi werent sannins, yet they were stronger than them. Oro just dont have right abilities to fight Deidara.
 
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