orochimaru vs deidara

[Turson]

Oro with ET > Deidara
Deidara > Oro without ET. C4 means death for Oro, while Oro lacks long range techniques to take down flying Deidara.

This isn't a fair fight Orochimaru is way to powerful for Deidara.

With ET he is, than again with this technique hes able to defeat anyone. Still, its unfair, becuase ET needs earlier preparations, and Oro didnt have dead bodies with him all the time. Without ET Oro is not stronger than Deidara.

 

[Primera]

orochimaro would win in my opinion

 

[FloriGlori]

Definitely Orochimaru. All Sasuke did Orochimaru could have done way better (except of the Sharingan). Orochimaru is a total genius, I bet that he'd notice the nano bombs before he inhales them. Even if he didn't, he'd just skin himself like he did it against Kyuubi, so all the damage would be made undone. .. and even if that wouldn't work, he still has Edo Tensei, which won't be canceled even if Orochimaru dies. In addition he got his huge summons, which themselves would be a threat for Deidara. Seriously, sometimes Orochimaru is underrestimated pretty bad, even though he's really powerfull & would defeat the most Akatsuki.

 

[-Vegeta-]

Orochimaru would win this.

 

[Turson]

All Sasuke did Orochimaru could have done way better (except of the Sharingan).

And Raitons, Oro dont have them, so he wouldnt be able to disable clay bombs. And he lacks long range techniques to take down Deidara.

I bet that he'd notice the nano bombs before he inhales them

How?

Even if he didn't, he'd just skin himself like he did it against Kyuubi

C4 would be in every cell in his body. Internal organs, skin, limbs, everything. His kawarimi wouldnt change anything, C4 means death for Orochimaru.

In addition he got his huge summons, which themselves would be a threat for Deidara

Considring that snakes cant fly, they are no threat for Deidara.

Seriously, sometimes Orochimaru is underrestimated pretty bad

I dont underrate him, Deidara is kage level shinobi and hes just bad match for him (without ET, that is).

 

[FloriGlori]

@Turson

1. I agree with the first part - Orochimaru doesn't have Raiton. But instead he can skin himself & can take much more damage than Sasuke - look at that fight with Tsunade. Even if he's ripped apart he can put himself back together with his snakes. His fighting style is totally different anyway, and without help from Tobi Deidara can't place his mines that easily. Well, the second statement is totally wrong. Orochimaru is able to extend his Kusanagi to an unkown length. Again I refer to his battle with Kyuubi; he extended his Kusanagi to at least 50m. His snakes are pretty long, too. And don't forgett about (Sanju) Rashomon.

2. You're right, there's no special technique that would help Orochimaru noticing it. But Orochimaru is a genius. If that huge bomb goes up and there's no explosion, Orochimaru would definitely know there's something wrong. Sasuke managed to escape C4, so Orochimaru (who has the same feats as Sasuke in terms of speed) would manage it, too. But as I said, there's no guarantee to it.

3. No, I don't think so. Even if C4 is in any part of Orochimarus body, his revival technique kind of renews every cell of his body. Naruto shmashed his left arm, but he spit himself out with a totally new arm. It's just a monstrous jutsu.

4. Considering those snakes are huge, like Manda or the ones that attacked Konoha, they would definitely reach Deidara. Either way they'd also be protection and diversion.

5. Yea, Deidara is really strong, and it wouldn't be an easy fight for Orochimaru, but he wouldn't be that much of a challenge. Orochimaru is above the level of an ordinary Kage.

 

[Turson]

Orochimaru is able to extend his Kusanagi to an unkown length.

Considering Deidaras fight with Gaara, dodging something like that in mid air would be just child play for Deidara.

And don't forgett about (Sanju) Rashomon.

Its not offensive jutsu.

But Orochimaru is a genius.

He had great knowledge, but he wasnt that smart in battle. In fact, Deidara was definietly better strategist than him.

Sasuke managed to escape C4

Only becuase he could see cliud of microbombs.

No, I don't think so. Even if C4 is in any part of Orochimarus body, his revival technique kind of renews every cell of his body.

C4 makes no room for Oro to use his Kawarimi, and thats his problem.

Considering those snakes are huge, like Manda or the ones that attacked Konoha, they would definitely reach Deidara.

Deidara is very fast on his bird, he can just fly higher.

 

[FloriGlori]

1. Look at

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and tell me that it'd be a child play for Deidara to dodge, my dear. Orochimaru has to move nothing but his had, so it's actually pretty hard to dodge.

2. But it's a defensive one, that would make things a lot easier for Orochimaru, in case Deidara uses that big bomb he used in suna or C0.

3. No, definitely not. Deidara didn't even think about the Sharingan's ability to see chakra when he created C4. Just developing all those Kinjutsu & experiments of Orochimaru requires a huge amount of intelligence. During the battle with Kyuubi he also proved his thought-out proceeding, though he declared it a mere game.

4. I was talking about the pure speed.

5. It does. It 'only' attacks Orochimarus current cells, but his revival-technique totally renews him. We also saw that it's pretty quick.

6. If he does so, it's harder for him to attack Orochimaru. Furthermore the snakes are very fast.

 

[Turson]

1. Look at this picture and tell me that it'd be a child play for Deidara to dodge, my dear. Orochimaru has to move nothing but his had, so it's actually pretty hard to dodge.

Considering that Gaara had great problems with even touching Deidara with that flying mountain of sand of his, yes, it would be child play to dodge something like this for Deidara. Orochimarus chances to hit Deidara with something like this are illusive at best.

3. No, definitely not.

Definietly yes. Orochimaru never dispalyed ability to coming up with plans in a blink of an eye during his combats. Deidara didnt defeat Gaara becuase of superior abilities (in fact, Gaara was very bad match for him) but becuase he owned Gaara in strategy field. In his battles with Gaara and Sasuke Deidara proved to be one of best strategist, Oro was far from it. Like I said, oro had great knowledge, but in fight he wasnt that bright.

It does. It 'only' attacks Orochimarus current cells, but his revival-technique totally renews him

Orochimaru would be turned to dust before he could even use his kawarimi.

If he does so, it's harder for him to attack Orochimaru

Not really, becuase hes splendit long range fighter.

Furthermore the snakes are very fast.

If only they could fly...

 

[FloriGlori]

1. Considering that Gaara's sand is something totally different than Kusanagi, and he had to protect the village while he was fighting Deidara, it definitely wouldn't be a child play to dodge. Deidara wasn't even able do dodge Sasuke's Chidori Eiso while he was on his C2 dragon.

2. Deidara is a good strategist, no doubt about that, but Orochimaru is more intelligent, the feats confirm that. Knowledge alone doesn't make someone intelligent. And in the end, Sasuke, who was Orochimarus disciple, turned out to be the better strategist. Deidara is clever, Orochimaru is more clever, that's all I wanted to set straight.

3. No. It doesn't turn you to dust from one to another second.

4. Totally. If he's fighting from a longer distance, it's way easier for Orochimaru to dodge.

5. They don't have to, they're huge enough. Tell me what Deidara intends to do, if two huge snakes pressurize him. And there's still Orochimaru, who will attack with his great sword of Kusanagi. It's obvious that Orochimaru got the upper hand here. First of all Deidara needs to create a flying creature, which doesn't work from one to another second either.

 

[Hei]

daidara has no chance against oro
oro is the graet sannin and also have forbidden jutsus and edo tensai

 

[Red Slayer]

Oro ftw

 

[Owarij]

I am starting to get tired of people on this forums, who post basless arguments like

daidara has no chance against oro
oro is the graet sannin and also have forbidden jutsus and edo tensai

Oro ftw

This isn't a fair fight Orochimaru is way to powerful for Deidara.

orochimaru will murder deidara easily

Oro all the way

this is how a majority of the posts are....
what are you people talking about, noone has explained yet how oro would even see or dodge the nano bombs that would blow him to shreds

 

[Urda]

Orochimaru.

 

[Owarij]

Orochimaru.

:flaw: