Lol so true! And the crazy part is that it isn't entirely himself as much as it is his desire to simply know every Jutsu.....sadistic mad scientist.
How do you see this temporary alliance with Sasuke turning out?! Because honestly I csn only see Orochimaru trying somethinf that will only backfire. This will either cause Orochimaru to permanently die or go elsewhere (possibly to Obito's Sharingan farm)!
The last part about Orochimaru actually taking control over Sasuke's body seems unlikely. Plot wise wouldn't make sense. On top of that Orochimaru has nothing to accomplish on killing Naruto and taking the Kyuubi's Perfect Jinchuriki head on might be too excessive just for the lolz of it, even if you can't die. And especially if he has Sasuke's body to risk..
As for the rest I agree, Orochimaru has everything to regain his role as the main villain in the series.
Lol so true! And the crazy part is that it isn't entirely himself as much as it is his desire to simply know every Jutsu.....sadistic mad scientist.
How do you see this temporary alliance with Sasuke turning out?! Because honestly I csn only see Orochimaru trying somethinf that will only backfire. This will either cause Orochimaru to permanently die or go elsewhere (possibly to Obito's Sharingan farm)!
The last part about Orochimaru actually taking control over Sasuke's body seems unlikely. Plot wise wouldn't make sense. On top of that Orochimaru has nothing to accomplish on killing Naruto and taking the Kyuubi's Perfect Jinchuriki head on might be too excessive just for the lolz of it, even if you can't die. And especially if he has Sasuke's body to risk..
As for the rest I agree, Orochimaru has everything to regain his role as the main villain in the series.
him taking sasuke's body will make every one hate him, so if noone took him seriously before...yeah. And i never said how the fight would happen...but Naruto is going to fight Sasuke someway or another.
Lol so true! And the crazy part is that it isn't entirely himself as much as it is his desire to simply know every Jutsu.....sadistic mad scientist.
How do you see this temporary alliance with Sasuke turning out?! Because honestly I csn only see Orochimaru trying somethinf that will only backfire. This will either cause Orochimaru to permanently die or go elsewhere (possibly to Obito's Sharingan farm)!
Lol reread the post...missed the part where you said Orochimaru takes over XS....bit yeah I knew he was still after Sasuke. Just wondered what you thought their battle would be....I honestly see OT as what you said or Sasuke winning....don't want Sasuke to be taken, but i also want Orochimaru as a final boss....if it comes down to it I wouldn't mind an end to Sasuke.....some dissapointed rabbits though XD
Lol reread the post...missed the part where you said Orochimaru takes over XS....bit yeah I knew he was still after Sasuke. Just wondered what you thought their battle would be....I honestly see OT as what you said or Sasuke winning....don't want Sasuke to be taken, but i also want Orochimaru as a final boss....if it comes down to it I wouldn't mind an end to Sasuke.....some dissapointed rabbits though XD
In this thread i will be detailing/debating why Orochimaru has been the main antagonist throughout the course of the series and the biggest threat to the Narutoverse. This is NOT a thread comparing Orochi to Madara so before you Uchiha fans flame: Madara is naturally stronger than Orochimaru. However, in the ninja world, brute strength is not a pure indicator of lethality. INTEL is just as valuable as raw power. Throughout the post i shall be using:
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Contextual Evidence
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to make my argument that much more convincing. Please, let's have healthy DEBATE and DISCUSSION. Even if you disagree with me completely, I respect you that much more if you explain why you disagree and provide legitimate evidence to justify your views. At day's end, this is all CONJECTURE and no one is completely right until Kishi says so. (It is Kishi's story ultimately, not ours collectively lol). So without any further ado heres my theory and I'll see you in the comments section!
Point #1: Orochimaru has extensive knowledge of the SO6P
In an era where most people regard the SO6P as myth, Orochimaru knew enough about his lineage to perform countless experiments on his descendants. For example:
- infusing Yamato with Senju DNA, finding a method to subdue Moukuton.
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- He had in his custody, the only Uzumaki female seen in the present tense of the series.
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- He can counter the fuuinjutsu used to seal Kurama into Naruto
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- He has an unusual amount of interest in Sasuke / Uchiha clan
Point #2: Edo Tensei
- Orochimaru mastered arguably what can be considered the strongest jutsu in the series, granting one the power to solo entire COUNTRIES. His extensive knowledge on various jutsu throughout the NarutoVerse makes this technique even more deadly b/c he can revive S class ninja and utilize their techniques.
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Point #3: Intel on Legendary Weapons
- Orochimaru has intel on the existence of mythical weapons that have been mentioned very sporadically throughout the series. Very little has been said about these weapons but one can assume that they are extremely powerful.
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Point #4: Rebirth
-Even if Orochimaru is killed or sealed, he can be reborn via one of his countless subordinates. Rebirth is something even Madara had difficulty achieving and Oro has been reborn at least three times thus far.
Point #5: Look Ma! No Hands!
- Orochimaru has remained a threat in the Narutoverse even without the ability to form hand seals. For the majority of the series he has been unable to fight at full capacity so one can only imagine what he is truly capable of considering we never seen him take a fight seriously (other than Hiruzen). The last time he had full access to his jutsu..he started a war against Konoha and revived Hashirama and Tobirama.
Theory
In the next arc (s), I feel as if we can expect Orochimaru to be the main and final antagonist. I believe Sasuke will finally overcome his hatred and lust for power and will agree to return to Konoha and be forgiven. However, I think Orochimaru will take control of his body before that occurs and the final battle between Sasuke and Naruto will actually be Naruto vs. Orochimaru in Sasuke's body (think about Riku and Ansem from Kingdom Hearts). Because of his knowledge regarding Rikudou Sennin, i think Orochimaru will upgrade Sasuke's body with Senju DNA along with any other tricks he has up his sleeves. This will be a fitting end to the series, in my opinion.
I don't know, I have always compared Oro to Nobunaga from Samurai Deeper Kyo, as there are quite some paralells: He is the initial main villain after some more or less fodder introductory villains, but is later, as the story develops further, replaced by the true main villain. They both resurect a few times, and are probably more outright evil than the main villains.
It's not that I dislike Oro, he is cool, but it's just that Oro is collecting Jutsus and obsessed with the Sharingan, while Madara is the one who plans to rule the world with the help of the very much most powerful force in existence. Everything Madara has planned is just on a whole other global level...
Basically, since Akatsuki's introduction, the plot was to stop them from gathering all bijuu and do some extremely bad potentially world-threatening stuff (which was later revealed in the form of the tsuki no me plan). After all those years, this plot is now at its climax. I feel it would be anticlimactic (and also not doing Oro justice as well) to stretch out the story afterwards by bringing Oro back with some other plan. It really can't become more grand scale, more epic and would be just an aftermath plot.
I don't know, I have always compared Oro to Nobunaga from Samurai Deeper Kyo, as there are quite some paralells: He is the initial main villain after some more or less fodder introductory villains, but is later, as the story develops further, replaced by the true main villain. They both resurect a few times, and are probably more outright evil than the main villains.
It's not that I dislike Oro, he is cool, but it's just that Oro is collecting Jutsus and obsessed with the Sharingan, while Madara is the one who plans to rule the world with the help of the very much most powerful force in existence. Everything Madara has planned is just on a whole other global level...
Basically, since Akatsuki's introduction, the plot was to stop them from gathering all bijuu and do some extremely bad potentially world-threatening stuff (which was later revealed in the form of the tsuki no me plan). After all those years, this plot is now at its climax. I feel it would be anticlimactic (and also not doing Oro justice as well) to stretch out the story afterwards by bringing Oro back with some other plan. It really can't become more grand scale, more epic and would be just an aftermath plot.
Orochimaru has no goals. He wants to watch things move, because he's bored. Here's a real curveball:
Madara isn't attacking right now. Or being arrogant after the Kage fight. He seems different and more placated now. Why is that? And Kishi hasn't shown us Sasuke and Oro for awhile
What if Madara already lost his body to Orochimarum the master of Edo Tensei?
To be more of a grey character, that isn't really on the good side, but may be supporting them in one way or the other. It's quite common. Think of Sir Crocodile from One Piece for instance.
