orochimaru is stronger than both itachi and sasuke

orochimaru with hands would beat sasuke and itachi


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I believe orochimaru has been severely underrated in this series. Hopefully during or after the war we see his true potential, because we supposedly haven't seen the "best" of him.
 

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I believe orochimaru has been severely underrated in this series. Hopefully during or after the war we see his true potential, because we supposedly haven't seen the "best" of him.
well tsunade had the ability to do so but she refused to do so,maybe orochimaru has another plan
 
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Heres the thing it doesnt matter what he does in a 1v1 he cant do anything about itachi's tsukuyomi its instant it is terrifyingly powerful and it will leave him stunned/unconcious then boom amaterasu or a sword or basically anything
 

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Orochimaru can not beat Itachi:
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For Sasuke:
nuff said?
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Heres the thing it doesnt matter what he does in a 1v1 he cant do anything about itachi's tsukuyomi its instant it is terrifyingly powerful and it will leave him stunned/unconcious then boom amaterasu or a sword or basically anything
orochimaru can just use a thousand snakes against itachi and if orochimaru is caught he can use pain to come back agian like what he did before it didn't take long for orochimaru to break out like from before but it would be nice to see orochimaru at full power but you can be right.
 

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Orochimaru can not beat Itachi:
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orochimaru can use edo tensai summon of past ninja's against them if orochimaru uses edo tensai then i think he has a chance but anything can happen
 

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orochimaru can use edo tensai summon of past ninja's against them

Orochimaru is gonna need those past ninjas DNA which he doesn't have. First and Second Hokage were sealed by the Third Hokage so Orochimaru isn't gonna be using those guys.
 
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orochimaru can just use a thousand snakes against itachi and if orochimaru is caught he can use pain to come back agian like what he did before it didn't take long for orochimaru to break out like from before but it would be nice to see orochimaru at full power but you can be right.

pain doesnt work with tsukuyomi becasue its all about causing pain also to the outside world its instant so by the time anything happened oro would be down from mental torture
 

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what pain are you talking about?
okay for 1) itachi didnt trap him with Tsukyomi, it was with a regular paralysis genjutsu and it was itachi who cut his hand off for trying to do what he did to itachi, also when orochi tried, itachi was even looking at him to trap him like that.
Orochimaru is an extremely versatile, intelligent and fearsome shinobi who could beat a huge chunk of the narutoverse, but Itachi is not one of them.
no amount of comparison or anything will matter, he got owned twice with little to no effort on Itachi's part, you could say its a bad match up or whatever but in the end he lost. twice.lol

Sasuke, when sasuke attacked on his deathbed, he barely won. but thats why he attacked, it was strategic on sasuke's part, he knew he wouldnt win in a full match.
Current sasuke, i belive(opinion) would win against orochimaru, maybe MAYBE MAYBE high difficulty, but probably closer to mid-high.
im not downgrading orochimaru, like i said ^^^above
 

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I wouldn't say he is stronger, relatively equal. HOWEVER, ppl fail to recognize the fact that Orochimaru is one of the few shinobi capable of countering mostly all MS/EMS abilities. The only issue any MS/EMS user has over Orochimaru is genjutsu, and it's not because he's weak against it but isn't use to how they utilize this ability. For him having a 5 in genjutsu he shouldn't have has to be concerned about it, but sharingan isn't normal genjutsu.
 
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Also, Itachi was very well aware of Orochimaru personality or his abilities, in fact he could read Oro quite easily and it's not because he was weak against him but too predictable. Itachi was well aware of Oro's 8 branch technique before it even appeared and had Oro in genjutsu before he set the attack face-to-face.
 

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He can beat Sasuke, but Itachi is stronger unless he begins the fight with multiple Edos
 

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Edo isn't needed in neither fight.
 

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My overall opinion of Oro: First, Itachi said himself that even if he and kisame together were to fight jiraiya, the three of them would die, and Jiraiya said that he has never surpassed orochimaru. Stats don't mean everything; Asuma's stats are higher than Hidans but Hidan completely swept the floor with him. When Oro and jiraiya both fought, neither of them could fight at full strength, and Oro was at the much larger disadvantage; he basically fought Jiraiya with his tongue and taijutsu, and was still winning. This suggests to me that Oro is stronger than Jiraiya, or that they are at the very least equals.
Oro was trying to posses Itachi, and when he does this, he is usually ill and goes into snake form and he can't do major harm the body he is trying to posses. Itachi and Orochimaru basically battle in which itachi could go all out and oro couldn't, so yea, itachi won. And it says in the manga "itachi is stronger than me" but it never said which form, in snake/possesion form, in which he is pretty weak, or in his normal form, in which he's crazy powerful. Also, Oro played around with Naruto in 4 tailed form (oro had his jutsu back but his body was weak and rejecting him at the time) while jiraiya almost died, however, Jiraiya, being Naruto's godfather, probably didn't want to hurt Naruto.
Overall, I think that Oro and Itachi are at least equally powerful, but I think Oro is stronger.
And Sasuke was in no way near Oro's level, during the time he "defeated" oro. Oro was dying in bed from sickness when Sasuke attacked him. Anything could have killed oro at that time, he was freakin' dying! And sasuke said that he would not have dared to challenge oro if that weren't the situation. Sasuke as he is now... I only watch the Anime, and Sasuke's last appearance was when he defeated danzo. I need to see sasuke more to say wether he is stronger than oro right now or not, but at the time he "defeated" oro, sasuke didn't stand a chance. My bet would still be on Oro, though.I just hope that if they do fight, plot continuation doesn't interfere and somehow allow sasuke to win, like it did with Deidara. I think the writers just needed deidara dead in order to continue the story, because if deidara didn't suddenly get all pissed and just used a smaller bomb instead of blowing himself up, he would've killed Sasuke.
 
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