Orochimaru>Edo Madara (right)????
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blazekev90
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haha koo story bro!
continue reading the thread and re-read the manga and I'll get back to you after my workout xd
Oh, now we are talking about grammar and "how can that be used in here", and "what can't be", good job.. first of all, English is not my native language, I don't give a flaying crap if I misled or wronged about some grammar cause English isn't the language I mainly speak, what matters is that you get what I mean, we're not in an English class so that you'd tell me about a word I didn't use perfectly or whatever BS you're talking about, but now I understand why you're also mad seeing you putting Orochimaru's avatar.
I thought about it just for awhile.. I guess I underestimated Orochi a bit.. although, I still think that he wouldn't be able to defeat Edo Madara, but surely he would put up a good fight.. that's my opinion, sorry if I was harsh in my responses to some of you fellas, guess we all can have different views sometimes. 
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blazekev90
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harsh? No, you had an opinion and stuck to it, which is how it should be until proven otherwise. However, I'm glad you were able to admit the you underestimate the situation at least to the degree of him having a chance (good fight).I thought about it just for awhile.. I guess I underestimated Orochi a bit.. although, I still think that he wouldn't be able to defeat Edo Madara, but surely he would put up a good fight.. that's my opinion, sorry if I was harsh in my responses to some of you fellas, guess we all can have different views sometimes.
I knew most wouldnt agree, as the thought seemed crazy but glad to see a good few agreed or at least wasnt sure on the matter.
Yea, I thought about some scenarios that could happen if the 1st/2nd and Orochimaru were to fight Edo Madara, it kinda changed my mind a bit to some degree, but I'm still stuck to my opinion though that Edo Madara would still win, I'm quite sure he would be able to pull it off in some way or another, but indeed.. Orochi would put up a good fight against him.
With that being said, I believe if Hashirama wouldn't have been sealed by the 3rd Hokage back then, and Kabuto had to summon him up in this war, I'm sure he'd be a stronger Edo than Madara since Madara himself admitted that Hashirama is the only one who could stop him, I just don't believe that Orochimaru's Edo's is mastered to the same level as Kabuto's Edo's, just because Kabuto said that he bypassed both the 2nd and Orochi, in what term he bypassed them?? (I'm not sure..) cause he didn't say so, but he's surely better on the Jutsu than both.
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blazekev90
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so your issuse revolves around whether or not Oro's Edo would be strong enough compared to Kabuto's?Yea, I thought about some scenarios that could happen if the 1st/2nd and Orochimaru were to fight Edo Madara, it kinda changed my mind a bit to some degree, but I'm still stuck to my opinion though that Edo Madara would still win, I'm quite sure he would be able to pull it off in some way or another, but indeed.. Orochi would put up a good fight against him.
With that being said, I believe if Hashirama wouldn't have been sealed by the 3rd Hokage back then, and Kabuto had to summon him up in this war, I'm sure he'd be a stronger Edo than Madara since Madara himself admitted that Hashirama is the only one who could stop him, I just don't believe that Orochimaru's Edo's is mastered to the same level as Kabuto's Edo's, just because Kabuto said that he bypassed both the 2nd and Orochi, in what term he bypassed them?? (I'm not sure..) cause he didn't say so, but he's surely better on the Jutsu than both.
blazekev90
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I'm not sure what would this explain in terms of the argue, cause I know what the technique does etcetera, but.. as I read from the first lines, it does clearly say:
" Impure World Reincarnation is a forbidden technique used to revive the dead. It was originally developed by Tobirama Senju, and later perfected by Orochimaru. Kabuto now claims to have mastered it to a degree even higher than them. "
Of course, assumptions can be made and some would go and say (on what term he mastered it?), of course, they are all assumptions in the end.. but technically when you master something, that means you took that thing to another level, which means you made it even stronger.. that applies to Kabuto's Edo's compared to Orochi's, that's what I believe though.
blazekev90
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along there it explains the difference as I have before, Kabuto uses his tags differently allowing partial controll over his Edo, thus allowing them to regain some of their conscious. This allows them to think and have a better emotional effect on an opponent, but also MAY improve their skill displayal.I'm not sure what would this explain in terms of the argue, cause I know what the technique does etcetera, but.. as I read from the first lines, it does clearly say:
" Impure World Reincarnation is a forbidden technique used to revive the dead. It was originally developed by Tobirama Senju, and later perfected by Orochimaru. Kabuto now claims to have mastered it to a degree even higher than them. "
Of course, assumptions can be made and some would go and say (on what term he mastered it?), of course, they are all assumptions in the end.. but technically when you master something, that means you took that thing to another level, which means you made it even stronger.. that applies to Kabuto's Edo's compared to Orochi's, that's what I believe though.
But Kabuto also used it in a similar fashion as Oro when using the 3rd Raikage and Haku. So, the difference isnt anything for certain, but Kabuto's Edo could show more skill if the user doesnt know how to have them fight at their greatest potential
Orochimaru had the potential to be as strong as Edo Madara. Let us go back to the past when Oro tried to take Sasuke over. If he had done so he would gain Uchiha DNA and 3 tomoe sharingan as well as a young healthy body with lots of potential. Later he kills Kabuto and awakens the mangekyou sharingan. With his own immortality, snakes, curse seal and mangekyou, he fights sick itachi and takes his eyes to awaken the EMS.
It seemed like Oro did research on the sharingan and figured out a way to awaken the rennigan. He could have gained all that but was defeated pretty easily.
Imagine him with all that plus what Kabuto gained: dragon sage mode, sound five powers and immunity to genjutsu.
It seemed like Oro did research on the sharingan and figured out a way to awaken the rennigan. He could have gained all that but was defeated pretty easily.
Imagine him with all that plus what Kabuto gained: dragon sage mode, sound five powers and immunity to genjutsu.
blazekev90
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while that could have been the case, it never happened. This on the other hand was the case and was full of potential.
TrollingSage
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Having Hashirama's dna doesnt mean he can use every jutsu Hashirama could. Bringer of darkness gen jutsu for instance. If Edo Madara himself says Hashirama can stop him then he can.