Oro could go toe to toe with Madara.

[RAMENATOR]

I didn't sir, in fact they did.. and you may check the previous comments and see for yourself, I used strong language indeed but I didn't directly insulted anyone with it, other than that none of what I said can be considered as an insult, simply they insulted with a low level words, and I replied at the same level, cause that's how some people need to be answered at sometimes.

But since you asked for it, then I'll stop using any strong language from now on.

The post itself was to encompass all of the rule violations that I witnessed and was not aimed at any one particular member. For you, yes, the language was a bit much and unnecessary. I simply want you all to be a little more controlled in your arguments and not resort to things such as insults or foul language in order to get your point across.

Child Plz, the only person mad obviously is you. You complain and take this shyt too serious, you obvious have no life and remain to be nothing more than wasted sperm. Been a member since 2009 and still haven't learned anything lol

That really wasn't necessary in the least. Just because you don't agree with someone or feel their reply was inadequate, does not give you the right to call them a waste of life. Keep the discussion on-topic and argue the issue, not the individual. Consider this your last warning.

 

[Cerox0]

Haha didn't I just make this thread kinda? Nonetheless, Orochimaru could defeat Edo Madara with his Edo (1st and 2nd).

As Madara stated himself, the only shinobi even capable of giving him a hard time in his current state is the 1st Hokage. So add 2nd Hokage and Orochimaru, they could win the match. All three can only be defeat by either genjutsu or sealing, but also possess abilities that compliment either others abilities.

You know, this is a good point.

However since Hashirama is now sealed it is no longer in Oro's arsenal so he loses :|

 

[DevonV]

LOL, then on the behalf of our honorable op i disqualify Oro from this match, because op made it clear that it is 'Toe to Toe' match, and if Oro does not has toe to fight, then he is disqualified. xd

Ha good one.

 

[el payne]

Nothing as troublesome as a bunch of snakes

 

[Rovian]

Three points.

1) You seem to be comparing the dead demon consuming seal with itachi's totsuka. While they are both sealing techniques, they work entirely differently. Dead demon consuming seal rips the soul out of the body itself, thus killing the body and sealing the soul. So in the case of the dead demon consuming seal it does, in fact, both seal and kill the victim. The sword of totsuka works differently. Upon piecing the victim, it seals their body into a jar. Thus, the body, with soul fully intact, is sealed. Now depending on where the body was wounded by the sword may determine whether or not the sealed person is alive or dead. However, since Oro was laughing, I doubt it was a fatal wound.

2) You said since Itachi died, those sealed by his totsuka must also be dead. Just because Itachi died doesn't necessarily mean totsuka and yata are gone. We know that totsuka and yata mirror are legendary treasures. Who knows how they are actually obtained. It is conceivable that whomever has Itachi's corpse may be able to take them. Itachi may also have transferred them to Sasuke for all we know (they starred each other in the eye/eyes before death). Also, how do we know the person who controls totsuka can't simply empty the jar of sealed people? There just isn't enough evidence to say whomever is sealed by totsuka is also dead now.

3) As far as the insulting. I was referring to when you said "You people are making me sick." That is an insult no matter what mountain, valley, or plain you live on.

Ok, first of all thank you for your convenient and polite answer, you're probably one of the few who replied to me with some respect in this thread.

Now, I wasn't really comparing the Demon consuming seal with the Totsuka sword, I was just referring to it cause the Demon consuming seal can indeed kill, you mentioned that seal and death are two different things which I agreed on, I then told you that on itachi's case seal also means death and I explained why, so I mentioned the Demon consuming seal just as an example that seal can sometimes be considered as death, nothing more.

As for your 2nd point, I don't believe that is true.. Kishi indeed said that these are treasures but he didn't specifically say in what way they are, it's not like they are in a box that anyone can go to and grab, right? I believe they're a spiritual weapons that can be born to a specific people under some unknown circumstances, cause all these weapons were mentioned as a myth in the past, and no one actually knew their shape or how they looked like, and only SO6P might have used them, Orochimaru himself got surprised on how Itachi had the sword when he spent all his life looking for it and couldn't find it.

Because if you remember, itachi was revived as an Edo.. and he had both the sword and the shield within his Susanoo, if you believe he gave them to Sasuke then that doesn't make sense cause there would be two treasures at the same time. also, extracting them from a dead (Itachi) body wouldn't be appropriate either, cause if that was true then Tobi would have took them by now, Tobi wouldn't simply leave something that important laying there since he was the first guy to arrive, again.. he didn't took them nor he could cause otherwise Itachi wouldn't have been able to use them as an Edo, cause there would be two treasures and that would be silly.

As of "you people make me sick" I wasn't referring this specifically to you, and really dude.. how come you consider this as a BIG insult, it is merely a term that can be used to express your frustration, and I was aiming it to those people who constantly say (Hashirama>Madara, Orochimaru can summon Hashirama, so.. Hashirama>Orochimaru>Madara), or to those who quote you with a small (closed minded) replies just like the guy I quoted on the previous page, those kind of people are what I meant to make me feel sick, I wasn't referring it to everyone on thread of course.

 

[Rovian]

Anything about the specifics of the treasures is speculation

It is, that's why I said (I believe..) we can't base anything that is not certain, that goes on both arguers.

Well you've proven that Sasuke doesn't have them. But Tobi or anyone else still could've taken them from the corpse. Edo brings you back 100% the way you were when you died.

Edo Tensei would bring you back the way you were indeed, but if you guys believe that these weapons are a physical treasures that anyone can simply go to and take then it doesn't make sense, cause you can't use two (existed) legendary weapons at the same time, that's why I still insist that these are spiritual weapons which can only be obtained for certain amount of people under some unknown circumstances (in this case itachi and his Susanoo..), and not everyone can simply take and use, which explains why Orochimaru with all his knowledge of things couldn't find it.

 

[Shinozgr8]

i think Oro could, of course. it may be possible. then again, ppl always restrict his edo tensei. why not restrict madara's "hashi" powers? aren't those too "op"? or is it ok because Madara's an uchiha and he's well liked so ppl let him retain all his techniques...? Oro would stand a chance. #ThatIsAll

 

[ThEpRoMiSeDlAnD]

Why is there even a thread like this. Madara is fcuking with the 5 kage right now and there half dead. Oro was having issues with an old hiruzen. Madara has unlimited chakra and an imortal body, pros chakra is limited and his body can indeed die that's why he uses the body switching jutsu.

Oro has no weapon nearly as strong ad as madaras "ima make it rain" meteor, his perfect susanoo, his genjutsu, Rin techs, or mukton techs.

Oro got sonned by both Itachi and sasuke before they made it out of their teenage years. Madara was damn near equal to the strongest ninja of his time. Madara controlled the kuybi Oro got his ass whooped by kuybi in only 4 tailed state.

Face it he's outclassed in every area by Madara. Comparing Oro to based god is like compareing mello to Lebron yea he's good but he's not that good.

 

[Rovian]

Why is there even a thread like this. Madara is fcuking with the 5 kage right now and there half dead. Oro was having issues with an old hiruzen. Madara has unlimited chakra and an imortal body, pros chakra is limited and his body can indeed die that's why he uses the body switching jutsu.

Oro has no weapon nearly as strong ad as madaras "ima make it rain" meteor, his perfect susanoo, his genjutsu, Rin techs, or mukton techs.

Oro got sonned by both Itachi and sasuke before they made it out of their teenage years. Madara was damn near equal to the strongest ninja of his time. Madara controlled the kuybi Oro got his ass whooped by kuybi in only 4 tailed state.

Face it he's outclassed in every area by Madara. Comparing Oro to based god is like compareing mello to Lebron yea he's good but he's not that good.

Even after all that, fanboys are still saying Orochimaru>Edo Madara.. ridicules indeed.

+rep for ya.

 

[Dark Artist]

Even after all that, fanboys are still saying Orochimaru>Edo Madara.. ridicules indeed.

+rep for ya.

look who's talking lol

since hashirama > EMS madara + Kyubi

then edo hashirama + edo tobirama + Orochimaru > edo madara

 

[Rovian]

3) As far as the insulting. I was referring to when you said "You people are making me sick." That is an insult no matter what mountain, valley, or plain you live on.

I was aiming it to those people who constantly say (Hashirama>Madara, Orochimaru can summon Hashirama, so.. Hashirama>Orochimaru>Madara), or to those who quote you with a small (closed minded) replies just like the guy I quoted on the previous page, those kind of people are what I meant to make me feel sick.

look who's talking lol

since hashirama > EMS madara + Kyubi

then edo hashirama + edo tobirama + Orochimaru > edo madara

You are included of those people who make me sick..

And such A,B,C methods doesn't work on Naruto, bring real statements up to the table or just don't post at all.

Have a nice day.

 

[Shinozgr8]

Why is there even a thread like this. Madara is fcuking with the 5 kage right now and there half dead. Oro was having issues with an old hiruzen. Madara has unlimited chakra and an imortal body, pros chakra is limited and his body can indeed die that's why he uses the body switching jutsu.

Oro has no weapon nearly as strong ad as madaras "ima make it rain" meteor, his perfect susanoo, his genjutsu, Rin techs, or mukton techs.

Oro got sonned by both Itachi and sasuke before they made it out of their teenage years. Madara was damn near equal to the strongest ninja of his time. Madara controlled the kuybi Oro got his ass whooped by kuybi in only 4 tailed state.

Face it he's outclassed in every area by Madara. Comparing Oro to based god is like compareing mello to Lebron yea he's good but he's not that good.

Oro toyed with hiruzen...oh please lmao you sound ignorant. oro dodges meteor with leech all creation obviously. itachi would own anyone with sword and mirror. so that's irrelevant. sasuke admitted he won only cuz oro was on his death bed...use better reasoning please

You are included of those people who make me sick..

And such A,B,C methods doesn't work on Naruto, bring real statements up to the table or just don't post at all.

Have a nice day.

how does it not work in this situation? 1st + 2nd > Edo Madara. added oro even makes it harder. Oro knows madara was beaten by hashi/ so logically, he'd use et first hand :shrug:

 

[TheBattousai]

Ok, first of all thank you for your convenient and polite answer, you're probably one of the few who replied to me with some respect in this thread.

Now, I wasn't really comparing the Demon consuming seal with the Totsuka sword, I was just referring to it cause the Demon consuming seal can indeed kill, you mentioned that seal and death are two different things which I agreed on, I then told you that on itachi's case seal also means death and I explained why, so I mentioned the Demon consuming seal just as an example that seal can sometimes be considered as death, nothing more.

As for your 2nd point, I don't believe that is true.. Kishi indeed said that these are treasures but he didn't specifically say in what way they are, it's not like they are in a box that anyone can go to and grab, right? I believe they're a spiritual weapons that can be born to a specific people under some unknown circumstances, cause all these weapons were mentioned as a myth in the past, and no one actually knew their shape or how they looked like, and only SO6P might have used them, Orochimaru himself got surprised on how Itachi had the sword when he spent all his life looking for it and couldn't find it.

Because if you remember, itachi was revived as an Edo.. and he had both the sword and the shield within his Susanoo, if you believe he gave them to Sasuke then that doesn't make sense cause there would be two treasures at the same time. also, extracting them from a dead (Itachi) body wouldn't be appropriate either, cause if that was true then Tobi would have took them by now, Tobi wouldn't simply leave something that important laying there since he was the first guy to arrive, again.. he didn't took them nor he could cause otherwise Itachi wouldn't have been able to use them as an Edo, cause there would be two treasures and that would be silly.

As of "you people make me sick" I wasn't referring this specifically to you, and really dude.. how come you consider this as a BIG insult, it is merely a term that can be used to express your frustration, and I was aiming it to those people who constantly say (Hashirama>Madara, Orochimaru can summon Hashirama, so.. Hashirama>Orochimaru>Madara), or to those who quote you with a small (closed minded) replies just like the guy I quoted on the previous page, those kind of people are what I meant to make me feel sick, I wasn't referring it to everyone on thread of course.

I see where you're coming from now. I was referring to edo itachi when I said he may have given the treasures to Sasuke. If you look at the last page before itachi disappeared, he was staring Sasuke straight in the eyes. So it is possible he could have imparted them to him. I know that is a stretch...a big one, but I was just illustrating that there is a possibility (even if a small one). It may also be that Sasuke may be the only one that can extract the treasures from itachi's corpse somehow (assuming he can get it back from tobi or whomever has it) since Sasuke has Itachi's eyes.

All an all the whole point I was attempting to make was that somebody sealed by totsuka may or may not be dead we don't have enough info on the legendary treasures to know it for sure at this point.

Regardless I don't think oro could go toe to toe with Madara, and definitely not edo madara.

As for the insult thing, I just misunderstood you. I thought you were saying anybody who thought oro could still be alive made you sick. Sorry about that.

 

[Rovian]

Oro toyed with hiruzen...oh please lmao you sound ignorant. oro dodges meteor with leech all creation obviously. itachi would own anyone with sword and mirror. so that's irrelevant. sasuke admitted he won only cuz oro was on his death bed...use better reasoning please



how does it not work in this situation? 1st + 2nd > Edo Madara. added oro even makes it harder. Oro knows madara was beaten by hashi/ so logically, he'd use et first hand :shrug:

Cause we simply don't know how the fight would turn out to be like, didn't the 3rd Hokage already beaten 1st+2nd+and Orochimaru all at the same time? now you can't say 3rd>1st>Edo Madara>2nd>Orochimaru right? that's why A,B,C methods doesn't work on Naruto.. in fact, Orochimaru might get caught by a paralyzing Genjutsu without him even knowing what's going on, he is so weak against Sharingan users and Itachi/Sasuke proved that.. you think he would stand a chance against Edo Madara? of whom are considered the strongest Uchiha ever?

You see now, the problem is that people always imagine things according to their likes, they like to define the battle to what suits their minds the best, like if Orochimaru will summon everyone, and do all his battle strategies, and then beat the shit out of Madara, (and and and..), not it's not like that.. Madara is not a silly noob who would stand and watch Orochimaru summon everyone and do whatever he wants to do, and even if he did and summon up a bunch of Kage's he wouldn't beat Madara, cause again.. 3rd Hokage already beaten the 1st/2nd/Orochimaru all at once, now I want someone to say 3rd>1st.. cause I swear they'll look so stupid.

 

[Nikes]

You are included of those people who make me sick..

And such A,B,C methods doesn't work on Naruto, bring real statements up to the table or just don't post at all.

Have a nice day.

It would work in this situation, Hashirama would see Madara and know a threat is imminent to the world. Then he and Tobirama+Oro,Manda, 8 Branch would all fight Madara. That combination would beat the 5 Kages now.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

To my understanding, Oro hasn't been defeated by any physical means. Genjutsu and sealing is the only thing he has been beaten by. So couldn't he go toe to toe with Madara? Meteor would crush him but could it kill him? A slash from Susanoo would devastate him but not kill him? Flower world could be cut down with Kusanagi? (fight vs Naruto it extended hella long.)

​

Noob. Get real.

 

[Rovian]

I see where you're coming from now. I was referring to edo itachi when I said he may have given the treasures to Sasuke. If you look at the last page before itachi disappeared, he was staring Sasuke straight in the eyes. So it is possible he could have imparted them to him. I know that is a stretch...a big one, but I was just illustrating that there is a possibility (even if a small one). It may also be that Sasuke may be the only one that can extract the treasures from itachi's corpse somehow (assuming he can get it back from tobi or whomever has it) since Sasuke has Itachi's eyes.

All an all the whole point I was attempting to make was that somebody sealed by totsuka may or may not be dead we don't have enough info on the legendary treasures to know it for sure at this point.

Regardless I don't think oro could go toe to toe with Madara, and definitely not edo madara.

As for the insult thing, I just misunderstood you. I thought you were saying anybody who thought oro could still be alive made you sick. Sorry about that.

Thanks and np dude, I agree to the point that everything is possible on Naruto, he might have transferred them to Sasuke before dying as an Edo indeed, if that's true, then of course.. he might summon Orochimaru back from the jar, that would be interesting to see though but I think it's (highly unlikely..)

 

[Nikes]

Cause we simply don't know how the fight would turn out to be like, didn't the 3rd Hokage already beaten 1st+2nd+and Orochimaru all at the same time? now you can't say 3rd>1st>Edo Madara>2nd>Orochimaru right? that's why A,B,C methods doesn't work on Naruto.. in fact, Orochimaru might get caught by a paralyzing Genjutsu without him even knowing what's going on, he is so weak against Sharingan users and Itachi/Sasuke proved that.. you think he would stand a chance against Edo Madara? of whom are considered the strongest Uchiha ever?

You see now, the problem is that people always imagine things according to their likes, they like to define the battle to what suits their minds the best, like if Orochimaru will summon everyone, and do all his battle strategies, and then beat the shit out of Madara, (and and and..), not it's not like that.. Madara is not a silly noob who would stand and watch Orochimaru summon everyone and do whatever he wants to do, and even if he did and summon up a bunch of Kage's he wouldn't beat Madara, cause again.. 3rd Hokage already beaten the 1st/2nd/Orochimaru all at once, now I want someone to say 3rd>1st.. cause I swear they'll look so stupid.

No the 3rd died.

So he didn't win, so he lost

 

[MrLukyso]

Madara's mokuton clone > Orochimaru.

EMS can break all Orochimarus Genjutsu While Orochimaru has no chance to break Genjutsu or Tsukuyomi. Also Madara has Rinnegan which gives sealing ability and ofc I bet he knows more sealing abilities or so whatever.

 

[Sublime]

Sure why not.
But we haven't seen what Oro can do yet and I don't know if Masashi actually PLANS to show us so....we can't be certain about that.

With Oro's skills shown as far, he is not better than Madara. But I believe he has a lot more capasity providing Masashi brings him back to the main plot.