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[BlacKing]

you too it was a good match but the rain doesnt come from ur mist it comes from the place which I summoned use to(look at the bolded place) so my 2nd jutsu and my 3rd jutsu would be valid meaning u guys would be trapped ad a few of u would be stabbed but lets keep going anyways

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as the mist clears and I see the kunais I make 4 spears come down from my previous jutsu 2 spears cut the 2 wires attached to the kunais and the other 2 spears hit the kunais knocking them away so ur 2 fire atacks dont reach me and ur tags blow up elsewhere(If u chose to blow them up at all)
note: this doesnt count as a jutsu and I dont need time to create the spears they are already made

while this is happening my jaguar uses

Fuuton: Kaze No Yaiba (Wind Style: Wind Blade)
Type:Attack
Rank: A
Range:Short-Mid
Chakra Cost:30
Damage Points:60
Description: A blade of wind that is unblock able due to wind intangiablitity.

sending at O1 killing him and I use

(Mizu Kamikiri) - Rising Water Slicer
Rank: B
Type: Attack
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
This jutsu creates a fast jet of water running through the ground that is powerful enough to slice through solid rock.

at ur real body and at this time ur spears happen and stab my jaguar damaging him only a little bit(since he can stand up to 160 damage)

and to end I use

Water: Giant Hand (suiton:kyojin hando)
Type:Attack/Supplemantry
Rank:A
Range:Short-Long
Chakra Cost:30
Damage Points:60(+5 with lightning)
Description:The user creates a giant hand out of water that can be hard for a punch or sharp to act as a claw it can also be used to grab the enemy. Can be mixed with lightning tecniuqes to make it stronger.
*Can only be used by burakyilan or if thought by burakyilan

the hand puches O3 then it grabs O2 and squezes it until it poofs away

Description: When user makes it rain and then changes the compounds of the water(materials in the air).Then makes the rain sticky which binds the opponent in place for 2 turns.this jutsu lasts for 2 turns.

Your second Jutsu does not work. It clearly states *WHEN USER MAKES IT RAIN AND THEN CHANGES THE COMPOUNDS OF THE WATER (MATERIALS IN THE AIR). The only water materials in the air are my mist. You did not make it Rain. The Rain Forest made it rain. You, biproxy, do not automatically make it rain because you summoned me to the place that has the potential to Rain constantly.

1. Your first Jutsu is your Summon
2. Your second jutsu is Raining Rain Bullets
3. your Third jutsu is Rain of Glue

You did not make Raining Rain Bullets. You form the handseals to do so, but it does nothing. By the time I dispel my technique, My kunai are already coming towards you which happened after one and before/during 2. They would reach you as you are attempting to do three. U_U

as the mist clears and I see the kunais I make 4 spears come down from my previous jutsu 2 spears cut the 2 wires attached to the kunais and the other 2 spears hit the kunais knocking them away so ur 2 fire atacks dont reach me and ur tags blow up elsewhere(If u chose to blow them up at all)
note: this doesnt count as a jutsu and I dont need time to create the spears they are already made

Making all of this null and void. You cannot do the jutsu since you did not make rain, meaning that you didnt cut the rope or block the kunai. U_U

Also, you cannot choose to blow up my ex tags with what, Water? How do you do that?

And, you would have to block the Kunai again, by reattempting to do the same jutsu, with which you still did not make any previous rain, so that jutsu would still fail yet again. And would then count as your first jutsu of your next turn. All of which, in the end, you still blow up, I nurse you back to health, and you dont remember this fight.

Seriously, Ask a Mod or Sensei if you like. I do not mind.

 

[BlacKing]

And lets say that you did make it rain at that moment, How short of a time period do you think it takes water to fall from the atmosphere? A second or so? No, try at least 30 seconds.

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Still not enough time to do all of what you say to stop my kunai from blowing you up.

 

[BlacKing]

Actually, I think I might do it anyway. Who knows, I may be wrong. :shrug:

 

[Lord of Kaos.]

Description: When user makes it rain and then changes the compounds of the water(materials in the air).Then makes the rain sticky which binds the opponent in place for 2 turns.this jutsu lasts for 2 turns.

Your second Jutsu does not work. It clearly states *WHEN USER MAKES IT RAIN AND THEN CHANGES THE COMPOUNDS OF THE WATER (MATERIALS IN THE AIR). The only water materials in the air are my mist. You did not make it Rain. The Rain Forest made it rain. You, biproxy, do not automatically make it rain because you summoned me to the place that has the potential to Rain constantly.

1. Your first Jutsu is your Summon
2. Your second jutsu is Raining Rain Bullets
3. your Third jutsu is Rain of Glue

You did not make Raining Rain Bullets. You form the handseals to do so, but it does nothing. By the time I dispel my technique, My kunai are already coming towards you which happened after one and before/during 2. They would reach you as you are attempting to do three. U_U

as the mist clears and I see the kunais I make 4 spears come down from my previous jutsu 2 spears cut the 2 wires attached to the kunais and the other 2 spears hit the kunais knocking them away so ur 2 fire atacks dont reach me and ur tags blow up elsewhere(If u chose to blow them up at all)
note: this doesnt count as a jutsu and I dont need time to create the spears they are already made

Making all of this null and void. You cannot do the jutsu since you did not make rain, meaning that you didnt cut the rope or block the kunai. U_U

Also, you cannot choose to blow up my ex tags with what, Water? How do you do that?

And, you would have to block the Kunai again, by reattempting to do the same jutsu, with which you still did not make any previous rain, so that jutsu would still fail yet again. And would then count as your first jutsu of your next turn. All of which, in the end, you still blow up, I nurse you back to health, and you dont remember this fight.

Seriously, Ask a Mod or Sensei if you like. I do not mind.

I dont think we are on the same page here, I already admited that my rain of glue wouldnt work and where the heck did the rain bullets come into this the bullets where done by my clones wich u said wouldnt be teleported to the place so that jutsu is irrelevant. And there is no reason for my spears not to work since it doesnt say anything like the rain needs to be mine, also u didnt state when u threw ur kunais so it would mean u threw them when my turn ended and by that time I would have already created the spears.

also I didnt blow up ur tags I just cut the ropes and deflected the kunais so they dont hit me. The only 1 of my jutsu's that wouldnt work is the rain of glue but thats no reason for the Spears not working

 

[BlacKing]

Sorry, replace Your spears with the 3rd jutsu and glue for the third i copied the wrong thing in, but even still they are outside of the whole time frame rules and look at what you posted. You said

making rain spears hit 20 random places and since ur summons are large at least 2-3 spears would hit ur summons or clones

That is too vague. Who is to say which ones get hit and which ones dont? I cannot counter something that is vague. Also I notice your jutsu says that you may change it mid drop. You also did not state that you were doing this to hit my kunai and strings, which would also mean that since you are now controlling it and it is no longer random, my clones and summons are less likely to be hit. Leaving it even more vague as to what my next move could be. All of my clones and beasts could be either hit or alive.

 

[Lord of Kaos.]

Sorry, replace Your spears with the 3rd jutsu and glue for the third i copied the wrong thing in, but even still they are outside of the whole time frame rules and look at what you posted. You said

making rain spears hit 20 random places and since ur summons are large at least 2-3 spears would hit ur summons or clones

That is too vague. Who is to say which ones get hit and which ones dont? I cannot counter something that is vague. Also I notice your jutsu says that you may change it mid drop. You also did not state that you were doing this to hit my kunai and strings, which would also mean that since you are now controlling it and it is no longer random, my clones and summons are less likely to be hit. Leaving it even more vague as to what my next move could be. All of my clones and beasts could be either hit or alive.

that is the point whıch of u guys would be hit depeds on u but there ıs a high chance that 1-2 of ur animals would be hit since they are very big.

 

[Jokey]

>_> Sireously Oraan you pown.

 

[Typhon]

Description: When user makes it rain and then changes the compounds of the water(materials in the air).Then makes the rain sticky which binds the opponent in place for 2 turns.this jutsu lasts for 2 turns.

Your second Jutsu does not work. It clearly states *WHEN USER MAKES IT RAIN AND THEN CHANGES THE COMPOUNDS OF THE WATER (MATERIALS IN THE AIR). The only water materials in the air are my mist. You did not make it Rain. The Rain Forest made it rain. You, biproxy, do not automatically make it rain because you summoned me to the place that has the potential to Rain constantly.

1. Your first Jutsu is your Summon
2. Your second jutsu is Raining Rain Bullets
3. your Third jutsu is Rain of Glue

You did not make Raining Rain Bullets. You form the handseals to do so, but it does nothing. By the time I dispel my technique, My kunai are already coming towards you which happened after one and before/during 2. They would reach you as you are attempting to do three. U_U

as the mist clears and I see the kunais I make 4 spears come down from my previous jutsu 2 spears cut the 2 wires attached to the kunais and the other 2 spears hit the kunais knocking them away so ur 2 fire atacks dont reach me and ur tags blow up elsewhere(If u chose to blow them up at all)
note: this doesnt count as a jutsu and I dont need time to create the spears they are already made

Making all of this null and void. You cannot do the jutsu since you did not make rain, meaning that you didnt cut the rope or block the kunai. U_U

Also, you cannot choose to blow up my ex tags with what, Water? How do you do that?

And, you would have to block the Kunai again, by reattempting to do the same jutsu, with which you still did not make any previous rain, so that jutsu would still fail yet again. And would then count as your first jutsu of your next turn. All of which, in the end, you still blow up, I nurse you back to health, and you dont remember this fight.

Seriously, Ask a Mod or Sensei if you like. I do not mind.

The rain in the forest can most certainly be used for rain jutsu. Hell thats the point of it raining there, and I would know since I made the jutsu. A rain user can manipulate any rain to make their attacks, it doesn't have to be rain made by them personally. >.>

And as for the reverse summoning technique, also made by me, he can reverse summon anyone he wants. It doesn't me he has to reverse summon all of his opponents.

 

[BlacKing]

The rain in the forest can most certainly be used for rain jutsu. Hell thats the point of it raining there, and I would know since I made the jutsu. A rain user can manipulate any rain to make their attacks, it doesn't have to be rain made by them personally. >.>

And as for the reverse summoning technique, also made by me, he can reverse summon anyone he wants. It doesn't me he has to reverse summon all of his opponents.

You may have intended your jutsu to be used that way but it is not worded that way. I would have been Pwned if I did not use the words of his jutsu against him. It does not state that he can summon anyone he wants to. It says the USER and His opponents. With an S. Meaning him alone and me and my clones.

Change the wording to make it say that he can summon anyone he wants. I think it faulty that you are able to carry as many opponents as you want in a reverse summon anyway.

As for your rain jutsu, it says, "when the user makes rain". The jutsu calls for rain that the user made himself, like if he were to use chakra sensing rain before he used the technique. That is rain the user made. You would have to change the wording to the "user manipulates the rain" in order for it to have been effective.

I have learned a lot in all of my losses about wording. I have watched Liliana, Hasashi, Kaze, and a few other great RPer's on here battles.

I've used your own words against you. Even if the jutsu made it rain, it isnt automatically going to hit me if it has to "form in the clouds". meaning your chakra would have to build up in the clouds before it comes down. How long does that take, also applied with how long it takes a single rain drop to fall from the sky?

 

[~Hasashi~]

I'm the farthest thing from a rain expert, in fact I don't know shit about rain so don't take my word for it.

Anyway I remember discussing moves with gates for our fight vs nero and emp and he told me that he couldn't use chakra sensing rain cause then he WOULDN'T be able to convert the rain to rain glue. I believe the same thing can apply in this case.

Get gats to come judge.

 

[BlacKing]

I'm the farthest thing from a rain expert, in fact I don't know shit about rain so don't take my word for it.

Anyway I remember discussing moves with gates for our fight vs nero and emp and he told me that he couldn't use chakra sensing rain cause then he WOULDN'T be able to convert the rain to rain glue. I believe the same thing can apply in this case.

Get gats to come judge.

See, thats what I mean though, he would have to have been the one to make it rain in order to use it. Making the Rain glue ineffective, which makes the spears outside the time frame rule since my kunai would've been coming towards him.

It doesnt have to be chakra sensing rain, it was just the first user made rain that popped into my head. xd

 

[~Hasashi~]

Get gats to check it. Don't take my word.

 

[Lord of Kaos.]

See, thats what I mean though, he would have to have been the one to make it rain in order to use it. Making the Rain glue ineffective, which makes the spears outside the time frame rule since my kunai would've been coming towards him.

It doesnt have to be chakra sensing rain, it was just the first user made rain that popped into my head. xd

U didnt state when u made ur move, u didnt say if it was after I made tryed the glue or after the spears. And there where things u did in between like having ur animals smell me, as far as I know about dogs(which is very little) need to get a scent of someone to able to find them also for future referance u should state in ur submitions that ur animals could smell people but back to the point since u didnt give any information about ur time frame I assumed that u made ur move after mine so u should just reply to my last move where I made the wind blade, water jet and the water hand.

@hasashi: what u say doesnt make sense at all since the chakra sensing rain is made up of the users chakra like the jutsu states. Its like saying u cant use a fire u created with a jutsu for a fire jutsu that goes like this:"the user makes a fire then..."
Still I think he is right in this case but Ill ask akiza to make sure for future referance.

 

[~Hasashi~]

U didnt state when u made ur move, u didnt say if it was after I made tryed the glue or after the spears. And there where things u did in between like having ur animals smell me, as far as I know about dogs(which is very little) need to get a scent of someone to able to find them also for future referance u should state in ur submitions that ur animals could smell people but back to the point since u didnt give any information about ur time frame I assumed that u made ur move after mine so u should just reply to my last move where I made the wind blade, water jet and the water hand.

@hasashi: what u say doesnt make sense at all since the chakra sensing rain is made up of the users chakra like the jutsu states. Its like saying u cant use a fire u created with a jutsu for a fire jutsu that goes like this:"the user makes a fire then..."
Still I think he is right in this case but Ill ask akiza to make sure for future referance.

Like I said don't take my word for it, ask gats.

 

[BlacKing]

U didnt state when u made ur move, u didnt say if it was after I made tryed the glue or after the spears. And there where things u did in between like having ur animals smell me, as far as I know about dogs(which is very little) need to get a scent of someone to able to find them also for future referance u should state in ur submitions that ur animals could smell people but back to the point since u didnt give any information about ur time frame I assumed that u made ur move after mine so u should just reply to my last move where I made the wind blade, water jet and the water hand.
@hasashi: what u say doesnt make sense at all since the chakra sensing rain is made up of the users chakra like the jutsu states. Its like saying u cant use a fire u created with a jutsu for a fire jutsu that goes like this:"the user makes a fire then..."
Still I think he is right in this case but Ill ask akiza to make sure for future referance.

That is the problem. Even if I wanted to I couldnt, because you have still yet to have stopped my kunai with ex tags and fire jutsu combo. Your spears are outside the time frame. Also, now Bahamut is disputing the Jungle move, saying that it brings all of us and not just you and me and my clones. This would force me to take everything back and start over from scratch. And as I do not have a very good way of countering this, especially since any move would route me my clones to the spot we are on. It was a very good combo. At first I was like , I'm screwed, but I looked into all of your moves and found faults.

If I were to continue, it would look something like,

My kunai with Ex tags blow up due to my fire jutsu, which you did not stop with any of your 3 moves, Blowing you up, I nurse you back to health, 5 senses thingy, and you would not remember the fight. lol.

Seriously if I am right then there is no going around it. If I am wrong I will admit defeat. I dont mind losing in a no prize contest.

My animals do not have a heightened sense of smell, just their normal one. Maybe I will allow you to argue that due to the constant rain, your scent is masked by the Rain Forest. Fine I will allow that. But even before that, I can see where you stood. you did not change your position. Animals have way better senses then humans, sight, hearing, smell. Allowing my hyena to still guide them to your direction.

 

[Lord of Kaos.]

That is the problem. Even if I wanted to I couldnt, because you have still yet to have stopped my kunai with ex tags and fire jutsu combo. Your spears are outside the time frame. Also, now Bahamut is disputing the Jungle move, saying that it brings all of us and not just you and me and my clones. This would force me to take everything back and start over from scratch. And as I do not have a very good way of countering this, especially since any move would route me my clones to the spot we are on. It was a very good combo. At first I was like , I'm screwed, but I looked into all of your moves and found faults.

If I were to continue, it would look something like,

My kunai with Ex tags blow up due to my fire jutsu, which you did not stop with any of your 3 moves, Blowing you up, I nurse you back to health, 5 senses thingy, and you would not remember the fight. lol.

Seriously if I am right then there is no going around it. If I am wrong I will admit defeat. I dont mind losing in a no prize contest.

My animals do not have a heightened sense of smell, just their normal one. Maybe I will allow you to argue that due to the constant rain, your scent is masked by the Rain Forest. Fine I will allow that. But even before that, I can see where you stood. you did not change your position. Animals have way better senses then humans, sight, hearing, smell. Allowing my hyena to still guide them to your direction.

look at my post u will see why the spears are in the timeframe. since u didnt give any information about ur time frame I assumed that u made ur move after mine so ur move would happen after I created the spears and they where ready I gave up on the first 20 like u said because they where too vauge(spelling) but I still created them and they were ready so I made a valid defence against ur kunais coming.

 

[BlacKing]

look at my post u will see why the spears are in the timeframe. since u didnt give any information about ur time frame I assumed that u made ur move after mine so ur move would happen after I created the spears and they where ready I gave up on the first 20 like u said because they where too vauge(spelling) but I still created them and they were ready so I made a valid defence against ur kunais coming.

Sigh. And once again I respond with you are shooting Random shots of Spears into a mist that you cannot see through. you specifically stated you threw them in Random spots. It could have been so random that you missed me completely. Or it could have been so random that you landed every hit. stating that you throw it in random spots, I can say your randomness missed me, my clones, and my beasts. As they are constantly moving through the mist, it is a high chance that they were able to dodge all of your attacks. You would have done better off trying to attack me directly. Fact of the matter is, is that either way you look at it, your spears MAY or MAY not have hit me. They may have taken out one of my clones and beasts. Lets Say for arguments sake they took out O4 and the hyena he was riding. I did not attack with him, He just stood by watching or is dead.

Randomness cannot be answered with anything other then more randomness. As in my Hyena randomly selected to follow a certain route avoiding all of your spears. Also, as we are in a Rain Forest, there are trees. Those trees then henceforth rerouted all of your spears, or got stuck in the trees themselves, and missed my clones, hyena, and me completely.

I can go on. I dont really want to though. This is getting pointless. Its only a spar technically. No killing. No Kumi. Just to test the strength of skill, strategy, and jutsu of each other. In your skill and strategy you were very good. In your jutsu as well. It was the wording of the jutsu however that I found faulty, which, if I prove to be correct by Gats if I ever catch him on at the same time as me, would be your downfall. IF what I believe to be correct is so. IF NOT, then I concede defeat, As I would have no real counter for your move. I have nothing to stop attacks coming from above other then going underground......And we all know how unwise that would be. I would lose regardless.

 

[BlacKing]

look at my move pls



I can instert my chakra into the existing rain and using it alll the same(I think) I acted like my jutsu failed anyways

No where in your jutsu description does it say you may do this.

 

[Lord of Kaos.]

Sigh. And once again I respond with you are shooting Random shots of Spears into a mist that you cannot see through. you specifically stated you threw them in Random spots. It could have been so random that you missed me completely. Or it could have been so random that you landed every hit. stating that you throw it in random spots, I can say your randomness missed me, my clones, and my beasts. As they are constantly moving through the mist, it is a high chance that they were able to dodge all of your attacks. You would have done better off trying to attack me directly. Fact of the matter is, is that either way you look at it, your spears MAY or MAY not have hit me. They may have taken out one of my clones and beasts. Lets Say for arguments sake they took out O4 and the hyena he was riding. I did not attack with him, He just stood by watching or is dead.

Randomness cannot be answered with anything other then more randomness. As in my Hyena randomly selected to follow a certain route avoiding all of your spears. Also, as we are in a Rain Forest, there are trees. Those trees then henceforth rerouted all of your spears, or got stuck in the trees themselves, and missed my clones, hyena, and me completely.

I can go on. I dont really want to though. This is getting pointless. Its only a spar technically. No killing. No Kumi. Just to test the strength of skill, strategy, and jutsu of each other. In your skill and strategy you were very good. In your jutsu as well. It was the wording of the jutsu however that I found faulty, which, if I prove to be correct by Gats if I ever catch him on at the same time as me, would be your downfall. IF what I believe to be correct is so. IF NOT, then I concede defeat, As I would have no real counter for your move. I have nothing to stop attacks coming from above other then going underground......And we all know how unwise that would be. I would lose regardless.

My point isnt the fact that my random attack would hit u my point is my spears are blocking ur kunais thus allowing me to continue the fight, but like u I dont really mind ending the fight in anyway but I just wanna get things straight.

No where in your jutsu description does it say you may do this.

It doesnt state it but thats the point of rain jutsu, u insert ur chakra into the rain and u make rain do stuffxd

 

[Typhon]

No where in your jutsu description does it say you may do this.

Thats just how rain, or any jutsu, works. You insert your chakra into something and manipulate it. If you wanted to create stone spikes from the ground, you insert doton chakra and manipulate the earth to create spikes. If you want to create a dragon of water you insert your chakra into the water source and manipulate it to form a dragon. If you want to create a blast of wind you inhale wind, insert fuuton chakra, manipulate it, and release it. If you want to create glue rain, you insert your chakra into the rain and manipulate it to form glue.


Though I will admit you're right about not being able to control who gets reverse summoned. I re-watched the Jiraiya reverse summoning, which is the same thing as this, and it didn't seem like I would be able to do that. But RoH's clones would have also been reverse summoned. The technique sucked in everything around Jiraiya.

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