Onoki + x Kage vs Itachi

[genii96]

Re: Onoki x Kage vs Itachi

...you're joking right..
Itachi didn't pull out yata in neither of those situations..The weapons and guard only comes out in a full or close to full susanno..


Please reread the manga..

why dont you reread the manga?,a susanoo wielder can pull out his weapons in any stage,sasuke wielded his arrow and sword in incomplete stage,madara used a sword in ribcage IIRC. All we have seen it block is attacks from the front,from above and below it did nothing,it was never said to block360 degrees,it is a shield,and as such protects against incoming attacks,ie,attacks coming towards it,not behind,above or below. Manga facts have shown attacks from below and above can bypass yata,your assumptions state otherwise. Manga>you

Kishi didn't have Itachi use the Yata Mirror those times. Plot no jutsu. Same reason every other character does something irrational when they should be smarter about their techs in said situation. Plot.

As for your claim the Mirror is limited to the 5 basic elements only, that's just your invention, there's no evidence for that at all.

plot?,or just the manga showing that it is a shield and like a shield blocks the front,you people are the ones who assume it is 360 degrees.

Yata posseses all basic elements,why dont you read the databook yourslef and shoow me where it says that it can deflect a kekkai tota

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

I can't believe there are peoples who think the Yata can protect the whole Susanoo :sy: That's just absurd and impossible.

 

[Owarij]

why dont you reread the manga?,a susanoo wielder can pull out his weapons in any stage,sasuke wielded his arrow and sword in incomplete stage,madara used a sword in ribcage IIRC. All we have seen it block is attacks from the front,from above and below it did nothing,it was never said to block360 degrees,it is a shield,and as such protects against incoming attacks,ie,attacks coming towards it,not behind,above or below. Manga facts have shown attacks from below and above can bypass yata,your assumptions state otherwise. Manga>you

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No time to argue with who can't comprehend basic manga scans

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When you see a sword/ shield/ and guord in that scan, and when you fin the ability to structure logical arguments instead of the "crap" you have posted, then call me...Itachi brought out his susanno hand only, and used it to protect Sasuke... Yata mirror didn't appear on susanno against hebi sasuke untill it was getting into its full form.. Yata is not like susanno bow/arrow , as it's not made of susanno chakra

I can't believe there are peoples who think the Yata can protect the whole Susanoo That's just absurd and impossible.

Too bad it has been shown in the manga and stated in the databooks? i'd track back before calling things absurd and impossible

 

[ItachiStyle]

I can't believe there are peoples who think the Yata can protect the whole Susanoo :sy: That's just absurd and impossible.

If only there were some kind of scan to prove it... like the ones on the previous page.

 

[genii96]

...you're joking right..
Itachi didn't pull out yata in neither of those situations..The weapons and guard only comes out in a full or close to full susanno..


Please reread the manga..

yata is a susanoo weapon,it can come out as long as the hands of susanoo are out. Where does it say that you need final susanoo to use yata?,or did you make that one up too?. Yata is a shield,it blocks the front,your scans,show it stopping frontal atacks, the manga never says it goes YHM degrees,so why not stick to the manga isntead os assuming stuff up just to make itachi win?

 

[Nazgul]

yata is a susanoo weapon,it can come out as long as the hands of susanoo are out. Where does it say that you need final susanoo to use yata?,or did you make that one up too?. Yata is a shield,it blocks the front,your scans,show it stopping frontal atacks, the manga never says it goes YHM degrees,so why not stick to the manga isntead os assuming stuff up just to make itachi win?

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[Baka Sennin]

Oonoki is a big clone user and has knowledge of fighting an uchiha vs madara, whose greater than itachi. and his experience makes a big difference. and it's not a given that yata mirror blocks jinton. given that oonoki alone forces itachi into full susanoo at once with an unpredictable outcome, it's stupid to think that he can win against any one of these combinations. oonoki alone has a fair chance of beating itachi anyway

 

[silmarill]

Itachi is so overrated atm its plain ridiculous, how can those fans be so blinded lol?

 

[Douryoku]

What is this non-sense?

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Itachi already destroyed a Sannin at the age of 11/13 with non Mangekyō jutsu. He then subsequently made this Sannin admit inferiority to Itachi, despite not seeing his Mangekyō or any of his real arsenal. Itachi has trolled Rinnegan users, albeit with the help of Bee and Naruto, it was Itachi who dealt the deciding blow; via the Totsuka. Kishi has made it incredibly clear that Itachi is a top-tier Shinobi, and that he can take Kage level Shinobi out with relative ease.

Now, let's be honest. Only one or two of the Kages you mentioned present a valid counter for:

• Tsukuyomi — It has already been proven that Itachi's Tsukuyomi can only be broken by an Uchiha on several occasions. Furthermore, Itachi's Tsukuyomi has been attested to being instant on two occasions. Itachi could catch any of the Kage off-guard and finish them with this technique; they have absolutely no way to cancel Tsukuyomi. Moreover, Itachi is the most intelligent character in the Manga, he will create opportunities where he is able to pick off even Kage level Shinobi and above and clean them up.

• Amaterasu — Only Ē is fast enough to dodge this technique; the rest are cleaned up by it.

• Susano'o — No Kage presents enough fire-power to match the destructive aptitude of Itachi's Susano'o, for when it is coupled with the Yata Mirror and the Totsuka No Tsurugi it really is invincible.

Any Katon techniques are either blocked with the Yata or cancelled out with Itachi's Suiton. The main gist is Itachi will play with the Kages via Karasu Bunshin feints (the likes of which were able to fool a perfect Dragon Sage and an EMS user), Bunshin Bakuha, basic Genjutsu (the likes of which trapped Naruto—a perfect Jinchūriki—inside it for enough moments for a Shunshin to be performed and a head to be chopped off.)

Ōnoki is handled with Amaterasu and/or Tsukuyomi; he's not fast enough to dodge the former, nor does he possess appropriate prerequisites to cancel the latter. His Jinton can be taken care of with the Yata Mirror, and even then, Jinton takes a while to charge up; Itachi will easily take this opening and utilize an Amaterasu or a Tsukuyomi; perhaps even a Totsuka Shunshin.

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Realistically, there is almost no opponents Itachi cannot defeat. Almost. Coupled with his haxx, unparalleled intelligence, astute analytical capability, Itachi takes all his fights with medium to high difficulty.

Douryoku out. :drive:

Edit: Slug Princess, you seem to have a personal vendetta against Itachi for some reason. In case you forgot, I shall remind you:

Itachi > Tsunade, unquestionably, and forever-more. Deal with it. I know it's hard to accept Itachi is echelons above your favourite character, but the truth is harsh.

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[Waltz]

None of the ninja you listed knows the in's and out's of itachi's Tsukyomi, eye contact is already established at the beginning of the fight, oh and Onooki isn't really a factor when yata mirror easily counters Jinton, and amaterasu takes less prep time and is potentially faster than Jinton. Oh and about the Raikage, we've already seen that

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and he requires time to recuperate (same will go for his allies), in that time itachi will make swift victory with amaterasu on both their full bodies or other methods given his speed feats.

Its rather obvious.
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[Douryoku]

Itachi is just dat go-to nigga.

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[Waltz]

Itachi is just dat go-to nigga.

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Dat-nigga itachi?.....it's rather obvious

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[Douryoku]

Dat-nigga itachi?.....it's rather obvious

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Indeed, he just keeps on Solo'ing.

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Dat Itachi. :worshippy:​

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[Waltz]

Indeed, he just keeps on Solo'ing.

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Dat Itachi. :worshippy:​

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haters can't accept! but at the end of the day.....he solo's

 

[silmarill]

Itachi can defeat any kage 1on1 but he cant take 2 at the same time , people who say otherwise are just brainless fanboyish kids who cant think rationally and need to stfu srsly o.o

 

[Waltz]

Itachi can defeat any kage 1on1 but he cant take 2 at the same time , people who say otherwise are just brainless fanboyish kids who cant think rationally and need to stfu srsly o.o

Why are you making things up?

I'll list two kage's itachi can solo if you so desire.

 

[NarutoIndra]

Onoki and Gaara can win mid-high diff.
Gaara and Onoki combo have already proven themselves worthy of the Susano'o. Onoki was able to pulverize 25 wood clones with Susano'o, Gaara has shown to be capable of taking out foes within the Susano'o (with the help of Onoki.)

Gaara has previously stopped Amateratsu with his sand, and Amateratsu also portrayed the fact of not being capable of burning through it. Tsukoyomi can only affect Onoki, who has experience against sharingan users (Madara since long ago) and Gaara can simply use the third eye rendering all genjutsu useless. If Itachi were in a Susano'o he could get pulverized as well regardless of Yata mirror. However the yata mirror will stay intact, but the Susano'o which was surrounded by the jinton will have been fodderized. Once itachi has realized all this, he will have unconditionally drained his chakra, and would have lost the battle, where Gaara can simply use sand burial to finish him off. Itachi is a terrible match up for Gaara+Onoki.

 

[ItachiStyle]

I think most of this has been covered, but I'll add a few missed points:
1) Itachi definitely has the Yata Mirror without a fully formed Susanoo in some scans, so claiming he needs it fully formed to use it is wrong (not that it matters either way), and
2) I have seen no evidence Onoki can even use Jinton while he splits himself into clones. Given Mu couldn't use it when he split his power in half, I'm not seeing how Onoki can when he creates a bunch of clones. Not that he's likely to get the chance, or that they'll be very useful against a guy who will see him doing it, is faster than him, and can predict his actions.

 

[genii96]

I think most of this has been covered, but I'll add a few missed points:
1) Itachi definitely has the Yata Mirror without a fully formed Susanoo in some scans, so claiming he needs it fully formed to use it is wrong (not that it matters either way), and
2) I have seen no evidence Onoki can even use Jinton while he splits himself into clones. Given Mu couldn't use it when he split his power in half, I'm not seeing how Onoki can when he creates a bunch of clones. Not that he's likely to get the chance, or that they'll be very useful against a guy who will see him doing it, is faster than him, and can predict his actions.

muu splits himself in half,and also reduces his power by half,thats much different from making rock clones,how would that stop him from jinton?

 

[ItachiStyle]

When you make clones, you're also splitting your power too remember, and we've never seen him use Jinton while cloned. It should certainly reduce the capacity of him to use Jinton at the very least. Basically he has to prove he can do it before he gets granted it. It also won't make much difference against someone like Itachi.