Onoki and Mu vs 6PoP

[Izanamı.]

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who wins?

 

[V h o]

Leaning towards kage duo but preta path ruins jinton, and they're out numbered quite a bit to even use jinton Zzz

 

[Conspirator.]

I think team 1 wins high diff.

 

[DMT]

Team 1 wins with mid to high difficulty

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

SPOP wins. Preta path renders jinton useles. Deva path pulls them in. Human path devours their souls.

 

[warlee]

The duo is a ninjutsu heavyweights, preta nullify their offence. Deva just need basho tien to catch then 1 by 1

 

[Lariatoo]

Pain mid high diff.
Tiger Rain at will finds Muu and even if it doesn't six pairs of eyes (plus others with summons) will avoid any sneak attack. Preta tanks anything they trow and Asura's missiles will stop them from even forming Jinton to begin with. Plus one Bansho Tenin straight to the ground is a one hit k.o.

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

If the pain that can absorb ninjutsu can absorb Jinton then the pains stomp.

 

[Beans2]

Muu and Onoki win this.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Pain wins

 

[Ambivalence]

This is a close one. Since the Kages have full intel on the Paths and their abilities, I can see them winning, though I'm leaning more towards Pain. All it takes is for them to be kept busy and not allowed to charge Jinton, and even then, one blast a time wouldn't be a problem for Preta. The rain technique won't detect Mu, though - it only detects chakra (which Mu has hidden) and its potency/amount, but can't pinpoint its location.

I'd say it's a high-diff for the Paths.

 

[Haizaki]

Pain takes it full intel or not.

 

[Beans2]

Muu and Onoki will start off the battle by lightening themselves, then Muu uses fission to split into two bodies and both bodies go invisible. The Tsuchikages can counter Deva Path pretty well this way:

-When Onoki and Muu are lightened, their mass is reduced so low that they weigh less then air (hence they can fly). So when ST is used to repel them, they hit the ground with very little force and thus don't take much damage (Because force=mass x acceleration and when their mass is very low they have very low force as well).
-Pain can't see Muu, so he cant focus his Shinra Tensei at him. To repel Muu, Deva would have to resort to his 360 degrees Shinra Tensei, which is weaker when unfocused and would also push away the other paths.
-Bansho Tenin is countered with the exact opposite technique, the weighted-boulder jutsu which makes them too heavy to be drawn in by BT.

Pain has no way of locating Muu once he's invisible. Rain Tiger doesn't work since it's chakra based sensing and Muu hides his chakra, but even if that was the case Muu can fly up above the clouds and destroy them with jinton.

With that said, one of Muu's split bodies goes invisible and cuts off Deva's head (yes srsly). The only way to prevent this would be if Deva was spamming 360 degree Shinra Tenseis every five seconds, but that provides many opportunities for him to be killed during the cooldown interval, for example Onokis rock golem comes up from underground and crushes him [

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] just like Kakashis chain caught him by surprise from underground [

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], not to mention this isn't a good method since an unfocused ST pushes away other Pains as well. Obviously that Muu will die pretty quickly after killing Deva due to the Rinnegan's linked vision, the other paths will target the area where Deva just got killed with their attacks. Fortunately though Muu still has another body which does the same to Preta while his other body kills Deva.

Naraka path will be the tricky part to deal with, because it can hide in Animal Path's invisible chamaleon and revive either Deva or Preta. But right after Muu assassinates Deva and Preta, Onoki uses large scale jinton to wipe out the remaining paths. Asura Path can't interrupt the prep time for jinton since Onoki can load his jinton from behind the safety of a rock golem [

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]. The slow ass bird summon gets one shotted by weighted boulder jutsu and all other summons can't touch him due to his flying. human path is useless for obvious reasons.

 

[New Dawn]

6POP stomp. Rinnegan can see Mu. 6POP distracts them from starting Jinton and pulls them. GG.

 

[-immortal-]

6papa's stomps

 

[roncato]

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who wins?

What is 6PoP?

 

[New Dawn]

What is 6PoP?

6 lollipops vs Mu & Onoki

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[roncato]

6 lollipops vs Mu & Onoki

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It should be 6lpps then.

 

[Haizaki]

Muu and Onoki will start off the battle by lightening themselves, then Muu uses fission to split into two bodies and both bodies go invisible. The Tsuchikages can counter Deva Path pretty well this way:

I thought this was an interesting topic but I very well disagree with these 2 being able to win.

-When Onoki and Muu are lightened, their mass is reduced so low that they weigh less then air (hence they can fly). So when ST is used to repel them, they hit the ground with very little force and thus don't take much damage (Because force=mass x acceleration and when their mass is very low they have very low force as well).

Good point.

-Pain can't see Muu, so he cant focus his Shinra Tensei at him. To repel Muu, Deva would have to resort to his 360 degrees Shinra Tensei, which is weaker when unfocused and would also push away the other paths.

Mu won't be able to see Deva as well if he operates from inside the toad like this

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. If Mu decides to attack a Path while invisible, his position would be known which would lead to BT being used on him or at least a counter from Asura. At this point, he won't be heavy so he'll be countered.


Deva can see attacks even while in the Chameleon mouth since the Toad would have connected eyes with the Paths as well(Top left and Middle:

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). Plus if Mu tries to attack the toad, he's leaving himself for death since he'll have to get through that before he actually fight Pain. He'll be exposed.

-Bansho Tenin is countered with the exact opposite technique, the weighted-boulder jutsu which makes them too heavy to be drawn in by BT.

Probably true but that's unless we're imagining 2 scenarios happening at a time considering they'll have to be light as well. Plus Pain did use BT on some boulder so would Mu really be that far off to the extent where BT which can be strengthened won't be able to pull him?

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Not to mention he can't see Pain since Deva would be inside a Chameleon's mouth and even if he can sense, his attention would be disrupted plus the fact that he can't anticipate Pain's next move.

Pain has no way of locating Muu once he's invisible. Rain Tiger doesn't work since it's chakra based sensing and Muu hides his chakra, but even if that was the case Muu can fly up above the clouds and destroy them with jinton.

It's chakra based sensing but it doesn't matter since it won't let Pain locate Mu.

With that said, one of Muu's split bodies goes invisible and cuts off Deva's head (yes srsly). The only way to prevent this would be if Deva was spamming 360 degree Shinra Tenseis every five seconds, but that provides many opportunities for him to be killed during the cooldown interval, for example Onokis rock golem comes up from underground and crushes him [

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] just like Kakashis chain caught him by surprise from underground [

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], not to mention this isn't a good method since an unfocused ST pushes away other Pains as well. Obviously that Muu will die pretty quickly after killing Deva due to the Rinnegan's linked vision, the other paths will target the area where Deva just got killed with their attacks. Fortunately though Muu still has another body which does the same to Preta while his other body kills Deva.

- Won't be that easy since Deva won't be out carelessly. Plus if they're together, it makes it easier to counter Mu since if he touches one, he gets killed by the other.

- There's also the fact they can't anticipate which attack (ST or BT) so them switching between heavy and light is a risky one especially when they can't see Deva.

- There's also summoning which can easily distract them leaving an opening for Asura to use his explosions which would be deadly.

Naraka path will be the tricky part to deal with, because it can hide in Animal Path's invisible chamaleon and revive either Deva or Preta. But right after Muu assassinates Deva and Preta, Onoki uses large scale jinton to wipe out the remaining paths. Asura Path can't interrupt the prep time for jinton since Onoki can load his jinton from behind the safety of a rock golem [

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]. The slow ass bird summon gets one shotted by weighted boulder jutsu and all other summons can't touch him due to his flying. human path is useless for obvious reasons.

Remember Deva can use BT on 2 opponents at a time

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and also consider He can summon the Gedo Mazou who would be deadly to both as well

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Pain takes it Med-High

 

[Beans2]

I thought this was an interesting topic but I very well disagree with these 2 being able to win.

Alright.

Good point.

Okay.

Mu won't be able to see Deva as well if he operates from inside the toad like this

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. If Mu decides to attack a Path while invisible, his position would be known which would lead to BT being used on him or at least a counter from Asura. At this point, he won't be heavy so he'll be countered.

The downside of Deva remaining in the chamaleon is that he can

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otherwise the chamaleon gets repelled by the force as well. So by

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Deva can also be forced to reveal himself to repel the jinton. Preta would only be able to negate the jinton that comes into contact with its absorption shield so it can't effectively protect Deva from jinton of that scale.

Actually, Muu can just kill Preta first using a guerilla attack. When Deva

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to use BT on Muu, Onoki can

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taking advantage of the five second cooldown time. Preparing and executing jinton takes less than five seconds as shown when Muu

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before KCM Naruto closed the distance with chakra arms, and would have done so had Naruto not used a second chakra arm.

Deva can see attacks even while in the Chameleon mouth since the Toad would have connected eyes with the Paths as well(Top left and Middle:

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). Plus if Mu tries to attack the toad, he's leaving himself for death since he'll have to get through that before he actually fight Pain. He'll be exposed.

True, but when Deva reveals himself and the chamaleon to attack Muu or defend against jinton, Muu's other fission body can fly up to it and poke out the chamaleon's eyes

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.

Probably true but that's unless we're imagining 2 scenarios happening at a time considering they'll have to be light as well. Plus Pain did use BT on some boulder so would Mu really be that far off to the extent where BT which can be strengthened won't be able to pull him?

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Not to mention he can't see Pain since Deva would be inside a Chameleon's mouth and even if he can sense, his attention would be disrupted plus the fact that he can't anticipate Pain's next move.

When Muu starts to feel himself be drawn in he just makes himself heavy, he doesn't need to anticipate it. Onoki was able to lighten Turtle Island to where it was lighter than air. If they can make themselves heavy to a similar extent then they would be way too heavy for Pain to draw them in. Deva needs to reveal himself in order to attack like in canon.

It's chakra based sensing but it doesn't matter since it won't let Pain locate Mu.

Right.

- Won't be that easy since Deva won't be out carelessly. Plus if they're together, it makes it easier to counter Mu since if he touches one, he gets killed by the other.

- There's also the fact they can't anticipate which attack (ST or BT) so them switching between heavy and light is a risky one especially when they can't see Deva.

- There's also summoning which can easily distract them leaving an opening for Asura to use his explosions which would be deadly.

-Onoki and Muu have a couple ways to force Deva to reveal himself, either by casting large scale jinton and forcing Deva to repel it, or Muu kills another path with an invisible sword attack and then Deva reveals himself to use BT on Muu. Remember Muu can split bodies so he can kill two paths at the same time with invisible attacks, for example Asura and Preta.

-They will remain lightened at all times unless they feel themselves being drawn in, in which case they switch to heavy.

-Onoki's rock golem can handle animal summons, with a rock clone adjusting the golem's weight to make its punches heavy and destructive, or make it light giving it a speed boost and flying abilities. It can crush and kill any summon that attacks it except Cerberus which can be immobilized with weighted boulder jutsu. Nothing less than Shinra Tensei is destroying that golem, and when Deva reveals himself to use it Onoki or Muu can target him with jinton.

Remember Deva can use BT on 2 opponents at a time

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and also consider He can summon the Gedo Mazou who would be deadly to both as well

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Bansho Tenin can be countered with the weighted-rock technique and it leaves him vulnerable to jinton or the rock golem.

Pain takes it Med-High

Other stuff to factor in:

-Asura Path can't be taken down with a sword, but Muu can instead use the weighted tech to immobilize it and make it too heavy to move. Not even Naraka can do anything about that since it's not actually dead.

-When Deva is forced to reveal himself to use jutsu, using one of the two strategies I mentioned, Onoki's golem can

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from underground during the cooldown time.

-Chibaku Tensei can be countered by Jinton.