Onoki and Hiruzen vs. 3rd Raikage

[Obito3631]

HAHAHA, Now you run out of logic points so you start to name call.

How old are you?


Naruto isnt physically strong.lmao What are you smoking.lmao

The same naruto who manually pushed a Tailed Beast Bomb through a multiple layered barrier isnt strong.lmao

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Just stop now.smh You failed hard. You can leave now.

Its not common sense bro, you are grasping at straws.

If there v1 lightning releases are the same then why could'nt 3rd raikage dodge raseshuiken at point blank range:

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Yet 4th raikage was able to dodge a Canon blast at point blank range:

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Obviously the speed isnt the same.lol The lightning armor increase the users base speed, but if one persons base speed is faster than someone elses, and they use lightning armor then the one with the superior base speed will still be faster.

I should be the one asking this, It seems like not everyone was gifted with common sense.

You complain about me comparing two guys with the same abilities and fighting style yet you're comparing two completely different jutsus with different speed of executions in different contexts that aren't even remotely similar you should really stop now, you've lost the last bit of credibility you had left.

Common sense says the 3rd Raikage is more than capable of jumping this high, if you can't use that then there's no point in continuing this discussion any further, I don't debate with people that are that simple-minded.

 

[MickNerks]

I should be the one asking this, It seems like not everyone was gifted with common sense.

You complain about me comparing two guys with the same abilities and fighting style yet you're comparing two completely different jutsus with different speed of executions in different contexts that aren't even remotely similar you should really stop now, you've lost the last bit of credibility you had left.

Common sense says the 3rd Raikage is more than capable of jumping this high, if you can't use that then there's no point in continuing this discussion any further, I don't debate with people that are that simple-minded.

WOOWW!!! ok, well i have continually brought manga proof. You have only came at me with "Common Sense" logics.

Im sorry to tell you this but common sense doesnt beat manga on this base. When you actually get evidence to back up your claims and stop making baseless assumptions that have never been seen in the manga, then i will take you seriously.

Manga facts >>> Your common sense

 

[Obito3631]

WOOWW!!! ok, well i have continually brought manga proof. You have only came at me with "Common Sense" logics.

Im sorry to tell you this but common sense doesnt beat manga on this base. When you actually get evidence to back up your claims and stop making baseless assumptions that have never been seen in the manga, then i will take you seriously.

Manga facts >>> Your common sense

Lol what? I have brought a manga proof that is way more valid than yours, if you don't comprehend this, reread my previous post, and I have proved how Onoki isn't escaping from the 3rd but it seems you can't accept the fact that I have totally rebutted your argument of Onoki taking flight. If anything you're the one who can't be taken seriously as you keep contradicting yourself and you have to be the most hypocritical person I have seen on the base, yet you don't realize it, so sad.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Why is there even a debate? Onoki solos.......just as planned

 

[Draphsin]

Uhh, Hiruzen RDS, Onoki comes out alive.

 

[MickNerks]

Lol what? I have brought a manga proof that is way more valid than yours, if you don't comprehend this, reread my previous post, and I have proved how Onoki isn't escaping from the 3rd but it seems you can't accept the fact that I have totally rebutted your argument of Onoki taking flight. If anything you're the one who can't be taken seriously as you keep contradicting yourself and you have to be the most hypocritical person I have seen on the base, yet you don't realize it, so sad.

You only showed a scan showing A in the air with Naruto, but it doesnt prove that 3rd raikage could catch onoki while flying, and even if 3rd raikage could jump after onoki in flight, onoki would simply have to move laterally to avoid the raikage, as the raikage cant control the direction his body travels while in mid flight.

And i think you are underestimating the speed of onoki's flight just a tad. He was able to quickly fly to the meteor in no time when he attempted to stop it.

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Onoki could simply fly straight up and move laterally when raikage comes after him to avoid to raikage, then jinton the raikage while he is still in the air, because he wouldnt have anyway to avoid it.

 

[Obito3631]

You only showed a scan showing A in the air with Naruto, but it doesnt prove that 3rd raikage could catch onoki while flying, and even if 3rd raikage could jump after onoki in flight, onoki would simply have to move laterally to avoid the raikage, as the raikage cant control the direction his body travels while in mid flight.

And i think you are underestimating the speed of onoki's flight just a tad. He was able to quickly fly to the meteor in no time when he attempted to stop it.

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Onoki could simply fly straight up and move laterally when raikage comes after him to avoid to raikage, then jinton the raikage while he is still in the air, because he wouldnt have anyway to avoid it.

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Both Ay and Naruto ended up in the sky in the blink of an eye, Ay, the 3rd raikage and naruto are all extremely fast, their speed are completely out of Onoki's league. In the manga page you showed you can clearly see it took many panels for Onoki to get to the meteor, the Ay got in the sky in an instant. the 3rd definitely has what it takes to catch him in mid air without Onoki having time to react, If Onoki is old then it drastically reduces his chance of him not getting caught since he has back problems and he would be even slower then he already is.