One Piece pwns all ongoing manga!
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Here's the thing that separates One Piece from most current ongoing manga.
The storyline isn't stale and every chapter isn't plain and simple compared to Naruto and DBZ.
One Piece introduced something new and interesting:
-Haki
-Pirates(no other manga has used this theme)
-Devil Fruits
and there is many more
Naruto IMO is a softcock version of Ninja Scroll and DBZ put together with Japanese Mythology.
The storyline isn't stale and every chapter isn't plain and simple compared to Naruto and DBZ.
One Piece introduced something new and interesting:
-Haki
-Pirates(no other manga has used this theme)
-Devil Fruits
and there is many more
Naruto IMO is a softcock version of Ninja Scroll and DBZ put together with Japanese Mythology.
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my answers are below your lmaoA couple FACTS I have to say and I want to hear ur answer and oppinion.
1) Why is it One Piece is literally one of the top selling mangas in Japan right now. Even higher than Naruto?
me:can your prove this lmao no you cant cuz from what i heard and i got a friend from japan and his bro is ovr there rite now naruto is still the best selling manga and anime out there...so yeah iddk where you got your facts from...
2) The reason ur friends never heard of it and it never showed in America is because the dub version isn't for kids to hear. If u watch it online, its still awesome
mek and naruto has blood in it and curse words in the dialoge and alot of suggestive themes yet it still managed to be on disney xd lmao if one piece was so dope how come it didnt make it to adlut swim or something lmao if it was cool like that it would be but yet all these other anime like inuyasha and kekkeshi make it to adult swim
3) Naruto is the most popular because its more world renowned then One piece. People in UK and America know about Naruto more than One Piece. Thats the only reason u think its better. As a matter of fact, most of the shows u posted that are better are shows that have been shown here in America.
me: your dumb ass just said it for me
"Naruto is the most popular because its more world renowned then One piece."
i dont think i neeed to say anymore about this one
they make it to america becuz they are better...and worht watching
Now onto oppinions:
1) Naruto does not keep me on my toes, there are too many fillers and they usually suck. I mean why can Naruto make fillers that explain stuff like Madara, the 4th, or the 3rd? The manga is awesome but the anime is getting on my nerves.
me:
and this is your opinion about naruto if it doesnt then you must just not like it but i can name alot that sucks about one piece i started watching one piece and got bored just like bleach its not interesting at all yet they have way more fillers and wack fights then naruto naruto keeps everyone on there toes you see ppl making threads trying to solve the mystery about madara ppl making blogs about theorys and all that yet i never in my life seen any of that for one piece....and if you have plz bring me it
2) All that BS ur talkin is simply ur oppinion and I personally think they are stupid. FMA is awesome, but its not as good as One piece to me. (See thats an Oppinion. that means what u think of something. Its not fact like ur trying so hard to prove
me:i can say the same to you so you just look stupid saying what im saying is just retarded opinions
~_~)
First of all, he said "all ongoing manga".
FMA isn't ongoing.
And very many of those you mentioned, aren't ongoing mangas either.
You're talking about the anime.
One Piece DOES pwn all ongoing mangas.
One Piece's sales was on top, with 55 000 000 copies sold, while naruto was in second place with only 10 000 000 copies sold.
Also, you're talking about the fights. Fights are only a small part of One Piece's success. Why don't you actually read One Piece before saying it's crap.
Most of the people who agreed with the creator of the thread has actually Read both of One Piece and Naruto, unlike you. If you've read all of One Piece, your mindset would be different.
One Piece's ratings are also the highest of all ongoing mangas.
Quotes from wikipedia on sales and popularity:
"In 2010, Shueisha announced that they sold over 230 million volumes of One Piece manga so far; volume 61 set a new record for the highest initial print run of any book in Japan in history with 3.8 million copies (the previous record belonging to volume 60 with 3.4 million copies). Volume 60 is the first book to sell over two million copies in its opening week on Japan's Oricon book rankings"
"Since its release, One Piece has become the most popular manga series of all time in Japan and one of the most popular manga series worldwide. It is the highest-selling manga of all time in the history of Weekly Shōnen Jump, as well as currently being its most acclaimed manga. One Piece is currently ranked as the best-selling series of all time in manga history. It enjoys a very high readership, with more than 240 million volumes of the series sold by 2011. One Piece has received wide critical acclaim from reviewers, primarily for its art, characterization, humor and story."
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"Naruto is one of the best selling manga of all time having sold more than 100 million copies in Japan. Serialized in Viz's Shonen Jump magazine, Naruto has become one of the company's best-selling manga series. The English adaptation of the series has also appeared in the USA Today Booklist several times and volume 11 won the Quil Award in 2006. Reviewers from the series have praised the balance between fighting and comedy scenes, as well as the characters' personalities, but have criticized it for using standard shōnen plot elements."
Only one of the best selling, not THE best selling.
Also, check the difference in the numbers.. One Piece sales and ratings are much higher.
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Next time, try and back up your bullshit with some facts and statistics.
Naruto might be more popular than One Piece in the west, but popularity DOESN'T equal ratings, and One Piece's ratings are better. So One Piece still pwns.
So don't go around making comments about a manga you've never read. (when I say read, I mean read all up to date chapters).
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Marimo Swordsman
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I was laughing when i was reading this forum because that link popped into my mind instantaneously.
mookyuzamaki
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all your facts are from wiki really lmao i dont belive a word you said lmao
thats all bs and made up lmao go to tv tokyo and get me ratings lmao
i can got change up some of the numbers rite now in wiki and it will be fact idiot and thats no way to talk to lady
dont come at me like that ever again
and the sad thing is they were only best in 2008 and get me and all time poll recently updated and ill agree other than that i looked at your links and nothing you said was even in there
this was on the one piece wiki page son:
All Time Best Selling Shonen Jump Manga
The Source for One Piece being the All Time Best Selling Shonen Jump Manga is from an all japanese link that has no english translation, I've temporarily edited the article and made it "one of the best selling mangas" (
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) until we find a source like ANN that proves OP is indeed the best selling manga now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raging goddess (talk • contribs) 12:52, 21 July 2009 (UTC)The comipress source is from two years ago. It doesn't matter if the source is in Japanese, if it is reliable, it can be used.Tintor2 (talk) 14:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
last I checked the One Piece page is written in english, so how is it that a source to a certain info is a japanese website that for all we know might not even concern the Best Selling manga topic, leaving that source is like saying that you expect every reader to know how to read japanese, and that's wrong. Since I can't read japanese, I demand proof that the website indeed states that One Piece is now the best Selling Shounen Jump Manga. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.150.150.150 (talk) 18:12, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Non-English sources are acceptable per Wikipedia policy, though English sources are preferred. (See WP:NONENG.) Goodraise 18:23, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
So if someone provides false info and says its source is from Toei's Japanese Website (where everything is written in japanese), what proof do other editors have that the info is false if the website is "reliable"? I again demand proof that the source indeed discusses One Piece becoming the best selling Shounen Jump Manga, otherwise I'll keep pursuing this till the info is either removed or someone provides a full translation of the page, cause I really can't see an issue concerning a best selling Shounen Jump manga not being mentioned in Animenewsnetwork or Comipress or any other websites.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.189.93.215 (talk)
You can always request a verifiability check using {{Verify source}} to see if the Japanese source actually does back up what is being cited. There are a number of Wikipedia editors you can read Japanese and double check these sources. However, excluding Japanese language sources is a form of bias that Wikipedia must avoid and assume good faith that the information sited to foreign language sources are what they are. --Farix (Talk) 12:21, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
WP:AGF (assume good faith) in no way obligates anyone to assume that any source (in whatever language) says what it is used to cite. The relevant policy for this is WP:V (verifiability), not WP:AGF. Anyways, the IP editor may want to take a look at this online translation of the source in question. Goodraise 12:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
One Piece have sold over 20 million copies worldwide, it is one of the best selling manga in the world. It is common knowledge. Kasaalan (talk) 11:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
"The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true." -WP:V --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 11:26, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Common fact it is. Superman and spiderman is one of the most popular comic. Kasaalan (talk) 11:30, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
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Translation 50th volume sold 1.074.745 copies in first week, most recent Naruto volume by Masashi Kishimoto’s popular sold 922,782 copies in first 6 weeks.*
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"After Eiichiro Oda's original manga debuted in Weekly Shonen Jump in 1997, this monstrous hit has gone on to surpass 50 volumes and has consistently remained a best-seller; the latest volume, Volume 54, sold 2.6 million copies in its first printing."*
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Translation One Piece reached sales of 140 [or 100] million across 46 published volumes, and the fastest manga to reach 100 million volumes sold. Volume 27 sold 2.63 million copies in its first printing.*
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San Francisco, CA, JULY 6, 2009 Gonzalo Ferreyra, Vice President Sales & Marketing for VIZ Media says "ONE PIECE, with its zany cast of characters and high seas action, enjoys more than 177 million copies in-print in Japan alone."I don't know japanese, too. Maybe we can ask help from japanese wikipedia. Kasaalan (talk) 11:30, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
We have a good number of people on Wikiproject Anime that have japanese skills. Might ask there first. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 11:34, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
More than 177 million copies sold in solely Japan as of July 6, 2009. Kasaalan (talk) 11:47, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
This needs verification because
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first I read this article and it says that Vol.54 sold 2.6 million copies. But when I checked the official Oricon’s weekly data here
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translation(url change every week, so use the previews (前へ) button to find the specific date). One Piece Vol. 54 on (11th week and 24 place) August 24, 2009 sold approximately 1,789,871 copies. The same goes for the 177 millions, this number need verification from Oricon. Because Oricon was never published such a numbers. So the Viz article is an “Official lie’’ or even better an advertisement trick. Oricon is the ONLY company in Japan doing this work. Viz sure is an official company about One Piece manga but not official source for the Japanese manga sales. You can’t reference to an article like this: Wikipedia references to Viz article reverences to nowhere. This is not verify nothing if Viz is not responsible about Japanese manga sales. So the article must be remaining with One Piece 140 millions third place and give the appropriate receptions for 2008 and 2009. After 2007 Oricon didn’t published again ‘’All Time’’ manga statistics. Then do not wonder why this article is rated as C-Class.--79.166.20.241 (talk) 23:40, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Right above I mean ‘’second’’ place not ‘’third’’--79.166.20.241 (talk) 00:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraid I have to agree with the IP, though I'd like to put it in a little more diplomatic words: The source in question is a press release and as such isn't a reliable source for the information in question. Press releases generally lack the amount of fact-checking and neutrality we desire. Goodraise 16:24, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
I think we're seeing a gap between sales and copies in print, which is a common press release trick to inflate the numbers. As long as we are strict about which figure we are giving, there's no reason to discredit an official source. Doceirias (talk) 04:13, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
The Wikipedia entry for Golgo 13 states that Golgo 13 has sold over 200 million copies so far. Of course, it is substantially longer-running series having started in 1969. It is still being actively published. Therefore, with One Piece selling less than 200 million copies so far, can One Piece actually claim it is the number all-time seller? Detective Conan is yet another long-running popular manga serial that started earlier than One Piece. It too is still being published and also has an anime series that is ongoing as well. Just the compilation volumes for Detective Conan have sold over 120 million, so I wonder if adding the other sales of related volumes will close or exceed the print gap versus One Piece. There may be other manga (romance?) that may also be long-running. AnimeJanai (talk) 12:02, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
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Marimo Swordsman
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Ok, please look at sales of One piece manga compared to naruto and come back with FACTS
before you act like a know it all
before you act like a know it all
Made up? I'm sorry, I usually don't insult people like this, but you seriously have to be one of the slowest people on this forum. Just deal with the facts he posted, and there a several sites that say the same thing about the sales and ratings.
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Ok I'm really getting fed up with these idiots who state opinion as fact and then call other peoples facts bull, look it up, then come back with actual facts that show your point before you think about talking to me, you can't so stfu and bow down to your superiors
Bitch please...
You just check the references in wikipedia...
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Now back up your bullshit with some facts and sources.
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mookyuzamaki
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and even in the long run naruto is still ongoing and therefore naruto is still ongoing and its very debatable to say one piece is the best and you say why?
bcuz
1.one piece has no games out
2.one piece is not know by alot ppl
3.one piece fights are not that tight
4.one piece story line comes no where nears narutos plot
5.naruto has alot of games out
6.is airing rite now on disney xd
and disney is has mad money
7.one piece was on toonami but what happened??? it got canceld for naruto
so dont bring bull shit ratings that were 3 years ago and have no relevance to whats happening now
its
bring me up to date facts not wiki answers
bcuz
1.one piece has no games out
2.one piece is not know by alot ppl
3.one piece fights are not that tight
4.one piece story line comes no where nears narutos plot
5.naruto has alot of games out
6.is airing rite now on disney xd
and disney is has mad money
7.one piece was on toonami but what happened??? it got canceld for naruto
so dont bring bull shit ratings that were 3 years ago and have no relevance to whats happening now
its
bring me up to date facts not wiki answers
mookyuzamaki
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does this not say 2008
im not dumb bring one of at least 2010 idiots
Top 10 Series of 2008
Rank Title (Volume #) Circulation
1 One Piece 5,956,540
2 Naruto 4,261,054
3 20th Century Boys 3,710,054
4 Kateikyo Hitman Reborn! 3,371,618
5 Bleach 3,161,825
6 Nana 3,122,146
7 Soul Eater 3,076,351
8 Nodame Cantabile 2,799,299
9 Rookies 2,765,163
10 Gintama
im not dumb bring one of at least 2010 idiots
Top 10 Series of 2008
Rank Title (Volume #) Circulation
1 One Piece 5,956,540
2 Naruto 4,261,054
3 20th Century Boys 3,710,054
4 Kateikyo Hitman Reborn! 3,371,618
5 Bleach 3,161,825
6 Nana 3,122,146
7 Soul Eater 3,076,351
8 Nodame Cantabile 2,799,299
9 Rookies 2,765,163
10 Gintama
mookyuzamaki
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yeah sources you cant even read lmao all in jap.
wow im not dumb
go bring it in english and one that is 2010 or higher
not one 3 years ago
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