[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 889 Discussion and 890 Predictions

[TheNuetrix]

Oh, yet another chapter that leaves us with an intriguing cliffhanger only to be underwhelmed by the next chapter, no Luffy vs Katakuri action, which for me is the only thing still worth a damn in this arc and more "Wedding Cake" repetition. Ceylon Carrot was so hype last chapter but this one ended it so quickly
Sanji's honor not to sabotage his own food at this point is stupid, I fully agree with Bege, kill her dead. Its not like she's just going to forgive the strawhats for attempting to kill her and completely humiliating her and her crew just because she likes their cake.

Sanji is a CHEF .. Don't compare his fighting skills to ZORO .. He aspires to be the best Chef .. this is his way of winning and ODA is showing us how Sanji's character and skills have developed.
We always depended on monster Trio because till then SHs didn't have many fighters .. we got them now. Exposure on their own expertise is something I was looking forward. This will be perfect.

Sanji's superhuman cooking skills and development as a characters is good but I'm sure most people, especially Sanji fanboys, are more interested in seeing him stomping someone into the ground.

2018 will be beautiful.

It will be beautiful for Wano. This arc has dragged on long enough.

 

[Sakazuki]

Jinbei still more scared of akainu

 

[LBeezy]

Jinbei still more scared of akainu

Akainu > Big Mom

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Jinbei still more scared of akainu

Jinbei ran away from Big mam, Jinbei stopped and fought Akainu with Luffy's unconscious body in his hand. Jinbei fears no one to be honest.

 

[Love Cook]

Lmao BM's acting like she's dying just because she hasn't ate in 8 hours. How can she have a long fight with other top tiers?

Overwhelming strength. Who can stand up to her for 8 hours ?

Luffy becomes Pirate King!
Zoro becomes Worlds Strongest Swordsman!

Sanji the best Chef XD

No, he will find All Blue. That is his dream.

Oh, yet another chapter that leaves us with an intriguing cliffhanger only to be underwhelmed by the next chapter, no Luffy vs Katakuri action, which for me is the only thing still worth a damn in this arc and more "Wedding Cake" repetition. Ceylon Carrot was so hype last chapter but this one ended it so quickly
Sanji's honor not to sabotage his own food at this point is stupid, I fully agree with Bege, kill her dead. Its not like she's just going to forgive the strawhats for attempting to kill her and completely humiliating her and her crew just because she likes their cake.

Sanji's superhuman cooking skills and development as a characters is good but I'm sure most people, especially Sanji fanboys, are more interested in seeing him stomping someone into the ground.



It will be beautiful for Wano. This arc has dragged on long enough.

It would be shit writing if Sanji would poison the cake. It is the core foundation of his character. Says a lot about the kind of story you want to read if you just want to throw that overboard for some quick action.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Overwhelming strength. Who can stand up to her for 8 hours ?



No, he will find All Blue. That is his dream.



It would be shit writing if Sanji would poison the cake. It is the core foundation of his character. Says a lot about the kind of story you want to read if you just want to throw that overboard for some quick action.

Most other top tiers have feats that are just as good as hers, if not better. So I doubt that she could beat any other top tier in 8 hours. Most of her attacks have been dodged by fodders, and some of her most impressive feats have been replicated by other characters, some of which aren't even top tiers. The only thing that BM has over other top tiers is her insane durability, but that won't mean much if all they have to do is wait a few hours for her hunger to siphon away her strength.

 

[Tomato God]

Luffy becomes Pirate King!
Zoro becomes Worlds Strongest Swordsman!

Sanji the best Chef XD

Along with the best shipwright, the best musician, the bravest man, the wisest scholar, the greatest doctor and the best navigator.

 

[Anduril]

Well that chapter sums up One piece in 2017.
Hype Some more Hype, foreshadowing, some things happening in the background, crushed hype, some more hype towards the end xD

P.S Not saying it was not a pleasure to read just stating what I think 2017 was.

 

[Wrappering_]

I rate this Chapter huff... huff/5

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Did Napoleon always have a face on his blade?

 

[Love Cook]

Most other top tiers have feats that are just as good as hers, if not better. So I doubt that she could beat any other top tier in 8 hours. Most of her attacks have been dodged by fodders, and some of her most impressive feats have been replicated by other characters, some of which aren't even top tiers. The only thing that BM has over other top tiers is her insane durability, but that won't mean much if all they have to do is wait a few hours for her hunger to siphon away her strength.

What a joke nothing what you said even is remotely true.

Controlling every element and wielding it like weapons. Has swordsmanship. Can fly. Can take away your soul. Hasn't been hurt once. Walks through the earth. She brushed of a Gear 4th attack and took away Luffy's energy instantly.

No one recreated her most impressive feats. If you're talking about Nami, she used Big Mom's weapon against her. That is not Nami's strength. That is still Big Mom's strength because Nami can't recreate that on her own from scratch.

Of course people have to dodge her attacks because otherwise it would result in a big fight or death, and this is obviously an escape arc. If someone stops to fight they will be beaten and captured and killed. We can't have that since it's the main characters and Big Mom is saved for the future so she can't go down.

So they only, JUST ONLY, have to wait 8 hours with Big Mom in beserk mode for the hunger to kick in. And you claim it siphon's away strength but that is just an assumption on your part because she seems at her strongest now. Maybe the weightloss is making her stronger you don't know.

All your arguments are so biased it's pretty disgusting reading it week in week out. She obviously is the strongest person in the manga so far, if you can't acknowledge that you have your head too far up another character's ass.

Name one character who can last in an 8 hour fight with her based on feats we have SEEN in the manga and not people who you think will be able to beat her after they displayed their bigger feats later on in the manga. Don't come up with bullshit like Kaidou because he didn't do anything yet, and everyone knows how story progression works with people who get introduced later on.

So right now, which top tier can win in an 8 hour+ fight with Big Mom ?

 

[Love Cook]

She didn't take his energy away. He was just tired from previous fights and could only maintain G4 for a single blow. Luffy was extremely exhausted after coming out of a full battle with Cracker. Also, if it was confirmed that she sucked his energy away then Oda would have made a huge deal about it instead of just brushing it aside like it was nothing.



Akainu.

So Luffy was so exhausted he wasn't able to maintain G4th for 2 normal punches ? But he wasn't that exhausted to fight against Dogtooth in that form for a long time ?

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Look at the spirit around Big Mom's hand and Luffy claiming how he is losing power and it is being drained from his body with a FYUUU sound effect towards Big Mom.

Also Big Mom can make a magma homie to shield herself from magma based attacks, I don't think Akainu can't stand up for 8 hours against her. He was already having major difficulty with Sick and tired whitebeard.

 

[Punk Hazard]

What a joke nothing what you said even is remotely true.

Controlling every element and wielding it like weapons. Has swordsmanship. Can fly. Can take away your soul. Hasn't been hurt once. Walks through the earth. She brushed of a Gear 4th attack and took away Luffy's energy instantly.

Most of this is just you listing abilities. Listing abilities with no explanation of how they'll actually affect other top tiers in a fight is pretty weak arguing.

No one recreated her most impressive feats.

Her most impressive feats have been the wave, the sword strike, and Promotheus and Zeus' large explosions. All of which were dwarfed by WB making not one, but TWO waves, both bigger than BM's, Aokiji freezing those waves, and Mihawk cutting the frozen waves.

She obviously is the strongest person in the manga so far

No she is not.

Name one character who can last in an 8 hour fight with her based on feats we have SEEN in the manga

Akainu, Aokiji, and everyone who scales to them, which would include other Emperors like Kaido and Shanks, and also Mihawk.

Don't come up with bullshit like Kaidou because he didn't do anything yet

Scaling is still a thing, regardless of how you feel about it.

She didn't take his energy away.

She very obviously did, as Luffy commented with surprise that he was losing his strength.

Luffy was extremely exhausted after coming out of a full battle with Cracker.

He also ate and slept multiple times, so you can't say he was exhausted from that fight still.

Also, if it was confirmed that she sucked his energy away then Oda would have made a huge deal about it instead of just brushing it aside like it was nothing.

Or it'll be explored when she comes back later or later in the arc, like several abilities we've seen this arc that haven't been explained.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

What a joke nothing what you said even is remotely true.

Controlling every element and wielding it like weapons. Has swordsmanship. Can fly. Can take away your soul. Hasn't been hurt once. Walks through the earth. She brushed of a Gear 4th attack and took away Luffy's energy instantly.

No one recreated her most impressive feats. If you're talking about Nami, she used Big Mom's weapon against her. That is not Nami's strength. That is still Big Mom's strength because Nami can't recreate that on her own from scratch.

Of course people have to dodge her attacks because otherwise it would result in a big fight or death, and this is obviously an escape arc. If someone stops to fight they will be beaten and captured and killed. We can't have that since it's the main characters and Big Mom is saved for the future so she can't go down.

Like Riker said, you're just listing her abilities. It's cool and all that she's versatile, but she needs to show that some of those abilities can pose a legitimate threat to top tiers.

Prometheus's expansion attack used in the Seducing Woods was comparable to Ace's Entei. Enel had larger lightning attacks than Zeus Breeze Tempo, which was powered up by Nami. Mighty Nation went through a part of Baum, lightly grazed the ground, went through a hill, and then created a decent sized wave. Mihawk's casual slash that cut one of the waves had a larger DC. Old and sick Whitebeard's tsunami feat was literally twice as impressive an BM's tsunami homie. The only things impressive about BM when comparing her to other top tiers is her durability (but it's arguable that Kaido's might be better) and her ability that let her drain G4 Luffy's energy, but we haven't seen much of that ability. BM, so far, does not have better feats than most top tiers.

So they only, JUST ONLY, have to wait 8 hours with Big Mom in beserk mode for the hunger to kick in. And you claim it siphon's away strength but that is just an assumption on your part because she seems at her strongest now. Maybe the weightloss is making her stronger you don't know.

We saw her wheezing at the beginning of this chapter.

All your arguments are so biased it's pretty disgusting reading it week in week out. She obviously is the strongest person in the manga so far, if you can't acknowledge that you have your head too far up another character's ass.

Lmao how are these two sentences right next to each other?

Name one character who can last in an 8 hour fight with her based on feats we have SEEN in the manga and not people who you think will be able to beat her after they displayed their bigger feats later on in the manga. Don't come up with bullshit like Kaidou because he didn't do anything yet, and everyone knows how story progression works with people who get introduced later on.

So right now, which top tier can win in an 8 hour+ fight with Big Mom ?

So exclude Kaido even though he's already confirmed to be stronger? Without Kaido, the list of top tiers who can last in an 8 hour fight with BM are: Kizaru, Aokiji, Akainu, Fujitora, Mihawk, and Old WB if he doesn't get a heart attack. The other Yonkos will definitely be on this list once they get feats.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Big mom’s durability has ever been tested against top tiers

 

[Dibattista27]

I hope oda makes her skinny like in the pervious chapter when pound dies. I like how she gets deadlier as she gets skinny. She probably gunna start to kill anyone and everything even her kids are starting to shit bricks

 

[Love Cook]

Like Riker said, you're just listing her abilities. It's cool and all that she's versatile, but she needs to show that some of those abilities can pose a legitimate threat to top tiers.

Prometheus's expansion attack used in the Seducing Woods was comparable to Ace's Entei. Enel had larger lightning attacks than Zeus Breeze Tempo, which was powered up by Nami. Mighty Nation went through a part of Baum, lightly grazed the ground, went through a hill, and then created a decent sized wave. Mihawk's casual slash that cut one of the waves had a larger DC. Old and sick Whitebeard's tsunami feat was literally twice as impressive an BM's tsunami homie. The only things impressive about BM when comparing her to other top tiers is her durability (but it's arguable that Kaido's might be better) and her ability that let her drain G4 Luffy's energy, but we haven't seen much of that ability. BM, so far, does not have better feats than most top tiers.


We saw her wheezing at the beginning of this chapter.

Lmao how are these two sentences right next to each other?


So exclude Kaido even though he's already confirmed to be stronger? Without Kaido, the list of top tiers who can last in an 8 hour fight with BM are: Kizaru, Aokiji, Akainu, Fujitora, Mihawk, and Old WB if he doesn't get a heart attack. The other Yonkos will definitely be on this list once they get feats.

Ýeah so there are a lot of top tiers that do a better version of some of her attacks. But if she has all those attacks and does them on 80% of them that is a super versatile arsenal that can adept to any situation.

I really doubt a lot of those admirals can stand up against her for that long. I don't think Fujitora is a good match up for her. I wonder if Kizaru has the firepower. Aokiji and Akainu could have a problem due to their elemental nature but I think those last two at least have shown something that can give them a fighting chance against her.

There is no way that old whitebeard can make it 8 hours, the war already did him in, let alone him facing a yonkou. And Mihawk ? Let Mihawk first show that he can hold himself against a yonkou.

 

[Passerby]

Ýeah so there are a lot of top tiers that do a better version of some of her attacks. But if she has all those attacks and does them on 80% of them that is a super versatile arsenal that can adept to any situation.

I really doubt a lot of those admirals can stand up against her for that long. I don't think Fujitora is a good match up for her. I wonder if Kizaru has the firepower. Aokiji and Akainu could have a problem due to their elemental nature but I think those last two at least have shown something that can give them a fighting chance against her.

There is no way that old whitebeard can make it 8 hours, the war already did him in, let alone him facing a yonkou. And Mihawk ? Let Mihawk first show that he can hold himself against a yonkou.

Wasn't it stated that he and Shanks used to have daily duels before Shanks lost his arm? Or was that "before Shanks became Yonko"

 

[Love Cook]

Wasn't it stated that he and Shanks used to have daily duels before Shanks lost his arm? Or was that "before Shanks became Yonko"

Yeah they did that. We don't know when they did that. They at least stopped doing it after Shanks lost his arm, so that would be 10 years before Luffy set sail at the very latest.

We don't know how intense those matches were, or if Shanks was limiting himself to just swordplay.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

big mom still big trash